Looks like a Conservative government, Harper already consulting Mulroney on transitio

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while the nucleus of the Conservatives are mostly Evengelical Christians.

Really ? Source ?
 

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bbking said:
Hugh Segal is an old political hack who would help anything conservative just to get his name in the paper.
But Hugh is always good for a few laughs. His finest moment was the day before the 25 October 1993 election when, with a straight face, he predicted a Kim Campbell majority government on national TV. Then on election night, he tried to "spin" the Tory defeat as an historic opportunity to rebuild the party without being constrained or distracted by parliamentary duties. I wish he rather than Joe Clark would have taken over the Tories after Charest left, if for nothing other than the comic relief.
 

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In 1984, I worked on John Turner's campaign.

In 1993, I worked on Kim Campbell's campaign.

I stopped working on campaigns...
 

johnhenrygalt

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I worked on Reform in 1988 in the West (their first election, the year they didn't win anything); in 1993 I moved back to Montreal and switched back to the Tories (just in time for their trouncing); and I stuck with the Tories in 1997 and 2000. Now in 2004 I'm with the New Conservatives. While the national campaign looks promissing, in Quebec we don't have a hope in hell.
 

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Harper slipping up on the abortion issue isn't going to help him. The best that can happen is they continue to feed him rope in which to hang himself. The old reform flame still burns and I for one will never vote conservative until such time as the social-conservatism part of that party is gone.
 

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OK, so it is shaping up to be a minority government. The question is becoming: which SP (a choice of NDP or Bloc Quebecois) should which John (Liberal / Conservative) go to bed with? Under which period of heat? And at what price?

I can’t imagine either the Liberal or the Conservative would be stupid enough to go to bed with the Quebecois, if they have any aspiration of winning a 2nd term. NDP most likely will end up as the biggest winner of them all. For a party whose only policy “know-how” is to spend at all cost to look after the “poors” and whose definition of “rich” is anyone who makes more than, give and take, $50,000 a year, the thought of the NDP’s influence in the upcoming minority government is scary.

On the surface, a coalition of the Conservatives and NDP is a dream team, offering the “best of both worlds” in unaffordable, huge funding to health care, day care, subsidized housing, education, the homeless, the young, the old, the under-privileged – in the NDP way, while achieving all of these with tax cuts to all, as advocated by the Conservatives. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this coalition will be a disaster for Canada, guaranteeing a deficit – hidden the Ontario Tory’s way, or otherwise - that will drag Canada into a “black hole” for years to come.

I am voting Liberal. Yes, I’m mad as hell with McQuinty. This guy is either the most incompetent there is for not knowing Ontario Tory’s hidden deficit, having been the leader of the opposition party for 8 years, or he is the biggest liar who played naive ness to his selfish agenda. He is probably both. Yes, I’m mad at the Fed Liberal’s advertising scandal. But the Fed Liberal has put Canada back on the right track, having inherited from Mulroney the deficit that added millions of interest charges to Canadians by the minute

Yes, Liberal has been ruling for too long and it is time for change. But change for the sake of change is not necessary for the better. Yes, Fed Liberals have its share of broken promises, but haven’t all parties? Canada has enjoyed stability, prosperity and a better-than-balanced budget in the last decade. Of all parties that were charged with the task of fiscal prudence and responsibility, the Liberals have my vote.

The current wave of anti-Liberal is understandable and justified. However, ask yourself this question: had the Ontario Tory been re-elected, and its hidden deficit been revealed, would you vote for the Fed Conservatives?
 

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bbking said:
- Harper had two chances to send a message that his party was diffrent from the Reform party - once when that member made a crack about gay people, and just recently when that MP made the comments on the French/English issue - in both cases he just removed them from their posts as official critics of whatever - he should have booted one or both right out of the party to send a clear message that this Conservative Party was not the old Reform Party that people with good reason, did not vote for
Another example, Harper could have sent a message that this Conservative Party was not the old Reform Party by getting rid of Rob Anders.
 
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