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TRFGTYH

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Hello,

This might be an unusual request .. but maybe not. Lemme explain.

For the past 2 years or so, I've had a chronic pain in my left leg that starts just above the back of my knee and extends to my lower middle back. For the longest time, I ignored it but in the past 6 months, it's gotten to the point where I can barely walk for 5 minutes straight without feeling like something is tearing at my muscles. I put off going to the doctor (I know, stupid right?) as I've been really busy over the last couple of months but 2 months ago, while walking through the mall, I had the most severe pain to date .. it was like getting hit with electricity. I had to sit down for a good 30 minutes and after that, I limped to the car.

The good doctor had a poke around and ran some xrays and diagnosed me with sciatica. I've been reading up on this and it doesn't really look like there's a 'cure' for this .. it involves a lot of therapy and exercise.

Here's where it get's complicated. During my prescribed physiotherapy session, the attendant had me going through a series of exercises and stretches. They were pretty painful - especially the one where you like on your back, keep you leg straight and they lift it up to see how high you can go. I managed around 10 degrees with my left leg but I can lift my right leg around 70 degrees - huge difference.

During the session, one of the things they do is attach electrodes to the thigh and turn on a stimulator type machine. That doesn't give me any relief but the doctor says it's something I have to go through. When the attendant was putting one of the electrodes on my thigh, she pushed in and it instantly made the pain go away. I had my eureka moment but she kinda just shrugged and went on doing what she was doing. For whatever reason, I can't reproduce it no matter how many times I feel around my thigh.

I was recently away in the States for business and I had one of my leg spasms - it was pretty bad .. not made much better by the fact that I had to walk 30 minutes back to the hotel. Once I got back to the hotel, I called up the hotel masseuse and when she came to the room, I explained the problem and she offered to massage the back of my thigh.

While she's massaging, everytime she goes near my left buttock, I can feel the offending nerve(s) relaxing and the pain disappears. It was a very strange sensation as I've had a constant pain in my leg/buttock/lower back for around 1 year but, pressing the right area makes it go away.

I let the masseuse know what's going on and, due to the intimate nature of the request, ask her if she can just knead my buttocks since that seems to really take the pain away. She was very polite but said that hotel policy and her own policy prevented her from touching any of the genital areas.

OK, I'm totally fine with this and understand her position. This makes me wonder, is this a weird request? I mean, I understand, obviously, the perceived sexual nature of rubbing that area but, at the same time, it really helps out. I guess what makes it even more difficult is that depending on where pressure is placed, the pain moves between my buttock, lower back and the very top of the inside thigh.

What prompted this thread is that I've been picking up leaves etc from my lawn and must have really aggravated the sciatica because it's seriously aching. Long story short (kinda late for that now I guess.. :) ) is that I'm looking for an MP/SP who is experienced in sciatica type injuries or is at least willing to give it a go.

Anyone?
 

TRFGTYH

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Thanks WorkingMan2010,

That's some great info. I have something worked out with Meat Manager but I'll definitely check out Jia massage too. I'll be sure to ask for Lee since she comes heartily recommended.
 

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That machine is called a "Tens" I believe they can be ordered through specialty pharmacies or home health care.

Acupuncture may have, heating pads with massage may help, water-therapy. Keep looking around for RMT's, if you have a diagnosis and plan of treatment, you'll probably find one that can help.

Best wishes
 

TRFGTYH

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You know, I have tried acupuncture. Before I went to physio, I was on a regiment of painkillers but they didn't do anything for me at all. The doctor said they were pretty strong but they didn't make a difference. The doc was going to prescribe stronger drugs but I was kinda worried that we weren't addressing the root cause of the pain - we were merely working around it through drugs. He recommended an acunpunturist and I went to around 5 sessions before I gave up on that as well.

I know 3 friends who have sworn that acunpunture helped them with injuries but it didn't help me. I've read enough about to understand that it's not total quackery but maybe it's not suited for sciatica? Thus far, massage has been the only thing that's provided short term relief. I'm actually hoping that continuous massage will 'free' up the sciatic nerve - based on my understanding of the issue.

I'm an experiment-y kinda guy so I've tried a lot of things. The only ones that really help (other than massage and hitting the right spot) are things like deep heat. The warm sensation does help but I've also discovered that it really reacts with certain places. Ok, I'm sure everyone knows this, but do NOT get this stuff on your nutsack or your anus. It will feel like someone has poured battery acid on you. On the plus side, the napalm-like pain does mask the sciatic pain for a couple of minutes.
 

wildbigguy

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Have you ever tried seeing a Chiropractor? I also used to have a bad sciatic nerve. When ever I'd sit down I would get tightness in my hamstring and right buttock. Was quite painful. After seeing a Chiropractor about 3 times a week for around a month it was gone(still go once a month though for maintenance)I've been pain free from that problem for over 10 years now.
 

SS Sharla

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I slipped a disk in my back and now have sciatic pain. Like you I have tried chrio, physio, heat, accupuncture, massage, and heavy perscription drugs. I too find that massage is one of the most helpful. I have been to Meat Manager and she has helped with temporary relief but until the root of the problem is fixed it is likely to continue hurting. Have you tried Lyrica? It's a nerve pill unstead of a muscle pill. At first I was on a cocktail of drugs, but like you said, it wasn't doing me any good. One lyria a day has made all the difference in pain. I know the underlying problem is still there and massage, chrio, and physio still need to be done, but that + lyrica for the pain + jess' magic hands and naughty nature seem to take my mind off it. Hope that helps.
 

SHAUNA SHA

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Hello,

This might be an unusual request .. but maybe not. Lemme explain.

For the past 2 years or so, I've had a chronic pain in my left leg that starts just above the back of my knee and extends to my lower middle back. For the longest time, I ignored it but in the past 6 months, it's gotten to the point where I can barely walk for 5 minutes straight without feeling like something is tearing at my muscles. I put off going to the doctor (I know, stupid right?) as I've been really busy over the last couple of months but 2 months ago, while walking through the mall, I had the most severe pain to date .. it was like getting hit with electricity. I had to sit down for a good 30 minutes and after that, I limped to the car.

The good doctor had a poke around and ran some xrays and diagnosed me with sciatica. I've been reading up on this and it doesn't really look like there's a 'cure' for this .. it involves a lot of therapy and exercise.

Here's where it get's complicated. During my prescribed physiotherapy session, the attendant had me going through a series of exercises and stretches. They were pretty painful - especially the one where you like on your back, keep you leg straight and they lift it up to see how high you can go. I managed around 10 degrees with my left leg but I can lift my right leg around 70 degrees - huge difference.

During the session, one of the things they do is attach electrodes to the thigh and turn on a stimulator type machine. That doesn't give me any relief but the doctor says it's something I have to go through. When the attendant was putting one of the electrodes on my thigh, she pushed in and it instantly made the pain go away. I had my eureka moment but she kinda just shrugged and went on doing what she was doing. For whatever reason, I can't reproduce it no matter how many times I feel around my thigh.

I was recently away in the States for business and I had one of my leg spasms - it was pretty bad .. not made much better by the fact that I had to walk 30 minutes back to the hotel. Once I got back to the hotel, I called up the hotel masseuse and when she came to the room, I explained the problem and she offered to massage the back of my thigh.

While she's massaging, everytime she goes near my left buttock, I can feel the offending nerve(s) relaxing and the pain disappears. It was a very strange sensation as I've had a constant pain in my leg/buttock/lower back for around 1 year but, pressing the right area makes it go away.

I let the masseuse know what's going on and, due to the intimate nature of the request, ask her if she can just knead my buttocks since that seems to really take the pain away. She was very polite but said that hotel policy and her own policy prevented her from touching any of the genital areas.

OK, I'm totally fine with this and understand her position. This makes me wonder, is this a weird request? I mean, I understand, obviously, the perceived sexual nature of rubbing that area but, at the same time, it really helps out. I guess what makes it even more difficult is that depending on where pressure is placed, the pain moves between my buttock, lower back and the very top of the inside thigh.

What prompted this thread is that I've been picking up leaves etc from my lawn and must have really aggravated the sciatica because it's seriously aching. Long story short (kinda late for that now I guess.. :) ) is that I'm looking for an MP/SP who is experienced in sciatica type injuries or is at least willing to give it a go.

Anyone?
I too many years ago suffered the same pain. I know the spot u are talking about on the bum. Very painful at first to press..but eventually alleviates the pain..

I would be more then willing to help you out. pm me and we can go from there.
Also...I might suggest in purchasing a portable Tens machine...they do wonders..u can use it anywhere..and no one will be able to see it..clips on you like "the old walkman" style!
 

TRFGTYH

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Hi Shauna,

I tried PM'ing you but it looks like your inbox is full :) Can you clear it out and I'll resend.

Update: I went to see Meat Manager this afternoon and her 'magic hands' really did help out. Apparently, I have a super tight ass (lol), though I think that can be attributed to my tense butt muscles than to any exercise regime..

It's been around 4 hours and I've managed to do a circuit of the grocery store with little pain. It has crept back a little in the last 30 mins or so but it's very manageable.

SS Sharla, the Lyrica thing is interesting - I'll talk to my doc about it. I am a little apprehensive about pills/drugs though .. in my line of work, I have to be very focused all day long so anything that makes me drowsy is a deal breaker. For the short term, I'm happy to rely on massage etc to manage it
 

SS Sharla

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I find the lyrica doesn't make me tired the same way the oxy and baclofen did, but it does have the heavy machinery warnings. Has your doctor tried a perscription anti-inflamatory? or taken xrays/MRI? But yes, stick with the massage. I think that's the best way to go, although the relief can be short lived. And work on your core muscle exercises! Physio has been shown to be equally as effective as surgery after the two year point. Good luck and hope you feel better soon.
 

SHAUNA SHA

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I find the lyrica doesn't make me tired the same way the oxy and baclofen did, but it does have the heavy machinery warnings. Has your doctor tried a perscription anti-inflamatory? or taken xrays/MRI? But yes, stick with the massage. I think that's the best way to go, although the relief can be short lived. And work on your core muscle exercises! Physio has been shown to be equally as effective as surgery after the two year point. Good luck and hope you feel better soon.
Sharla Baby....This can b resolved without drugs..I did it...couldn't walk for 3 weeks..its a pain get better thing...I sooo feel for him!! That pressure point with inflamation in the buttucks..is where u have to press...I used to go to Physio..left balling my eyes out..but it worked... just saying...Drugs are a temporary measure..I believe in "old school" healing....For me it worked!!
 

Meat Manager

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Hi Shauna,

I tried PM'ing you but it looks like your inbox is full :) Can you clear it out and I'll resend.

Update: I went to see Meat Manager this afternoon and her 'magic hands' really did help out. Apparently, I have a super tight ass (lol), though I think that can be attributed to my tense butt muscles than to any exercise regime..

It's been around 4 hours and I've managed to do a circuit of the grocery store with little pain. It has crept back a little in the last 30 mins or so but it's very manageable.

SS Sharla, the Lyrica thing is interesting - I'll talk to my doc about it. I am a little apprehensive about pills/drugs though .. in my line of work, I have to be very focused all day long so anything that makes me drowsy is a deal breaker. For the short term, I'm happy to rely on massage etc to manage it

Glad to have helped. I could have worked on that tight ass all day!! lol
 

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My recommendation is that once you have the pain under control and feell like doing stuff again, watch your posture (keep your waist and lower back in the right position, don't slouch so you look pregnant) and do deadlifts (which means you just have a barbell on the ground, you squat down and keep your back straight and pick it up... not rocket science... google for more details.) You don't have to lift 500lbs and grunt and toss the barbell on the ground then flex your muscles at the mirror after... just do enough weight that it is challenging to do 10 reps. Do one set of that the first time (if you try to do 4 or 5 sets the first time it's not that difficult but you'll be sore for several days after) and do two sets in a couple days and work up to more and more. Try to keep the back strong and in the right spot and you'll feel a lot better.

I actually know a guy who was nearly crippled at just 23 years of age from artharitis in his back. That's the defintion of bad news... 23 years old and your youth is gone. He went to a second doctor that confirmed what the first had said, but also went further and told him people with artharitis can be fine if the muscle around the affected area is good. So a guy with artharitis in his knee can still run marathons. Well this guy started doing deadlifts and in under a year was as mobile as the average 23 year old. Years later he's in better than average shape and feels almost no pain.
 

SS Sharla

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Sharla Baby....This can b resolved without drugs..I did it...couldn't walk for 3 weeks
Yes it definitely can be taken care of without the use of medication but I think any doctor in his right mind would think a year is a long time to go without any relief, or imagaing to find out the source of the problem. Sciatica isn't a diagnosis it is a symptom that is caused by another problem. Usually a herniated disk. But that isn't the case with everyone. So what works for one person may not work for another because the root problem is different. With a herniated disk the idea of physio, chrio, and massage is to help move the disk back into place. If you have tried all those things and continue to try them you will get better. But if it has been a year you would want to try something else to help it along as well. An anti inflamatory could reduce the swelling around the disk and make your physio and chrio work better. You might have more chance of the disk slipping back in.

Taking lyria is a personal choice. I find it makes physio easier and the more physio you can do the better. I don't have the ability to be bedrested for three weeks. I have to be up and about with my son. And if I wasn't able to leave a shopping mall to get to my car I would certainly be looking for some other help. It is not a solution by any means but people have to work and live. If you had a migraine you would take an advil right? It doesn't resolve the migrainge it just makes it tolerable till it is resolved.

They recommend getting imaging done after 2 months if pain is still there. So if it is has been a year I would ask a doctor to get some xrays or mri done. If the disk that was bulging ruptured and the material goes into your spinal canal that is dangerous. You may end up with something like caudia equnia syndrome. Rare but it happens. So I would be trying whatever I can after a year of no results.
 
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