Massive Blunder by Trudeau

IM469

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I wonder if Trudeau the Younger feel the same way about allowing "sex tourism"? Would he say pedos have an unfettered right to travel to Philippines, Thailand, etc. to do their "stuff" overseas? Also, would Trudeau allow Canadians to travel abroad to torture and kill animals (like protected lions)?
Is this part of new questionnaire at the airport ?? Thailand is a popular tourist spot and Harper hasn't banned travel there so :

HARPER ENDORSES PEDOPLILIA !!!! What a fucking sicko !!!! Harper signed Mexico to a trade agreement .... land of the drug cartels ... HARPER SUPPORTS DRUG CARTELS !!!!

No political fear mongering here ! :thumb:
 

SkyRider

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He could certainly use the law to stop journalists that are not favorable to the govt from going there.
Mohamed Fahy (sp) probably wishes he never went back to Egypt. That dual citizen female journalist who was tortured and killed probably never wished she went back to Iran. Very dangerous for journalists in those countries. (The American policy is "you are free to go but don't expect help from us if you are kidnapped and beheaded".)
 

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I don't like the concept of blanket restrictions to travel to a country, unless you can prove to our government that the purpose of their visit fits their criteria. Where the fuck does that end? We have broad rights to leave Canada, which we should not screw with. If you've ever gone through exit clearance in a place like Cuba, you'll understand.

This should be flipped, and likely already is in place under current laws - if there is reason to believe someone is travelling abroad to commit a crime, restrict their ability to travel - take their passport etc.
 

GPIDEAL

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Still no link or reference from those who "…saw this". Meanwhile the yesterday's Star quotes a CPoC spokesperson, when asked about recruiting for anti-ISIS forces, 'clarifying" Our Dear Leader's original statement by saying "…mercenary activities" were OK.

Of course if the security-fanboys in CPoC really were serious, they would have done something while Parliament was in session, instead of waiting until they'd dissolved it and could get away with meaningless promises and half-truths.

By their arithmetic, a half-truth wipes clean the half-lies that are their stock in trade.

Yes, apparently, if you visit Syria because you want to FIGHT ISIL, then it's okay.

The exceptions for such travel though are not quite clear (according to a debate I heard on 1010 CFRB this morning). Surely they should allow family members to visit each other, no?
 

fmahovalich

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The law persecutes any Canadian that travels to terrorist hotbeds, regardless of whether it can be proved the reason for that travel was to join a terrorist group. The only exception is for those proved to be fighting ISIS.

In other words, you can be found guilty of conspiring with terrorists even if you aren't conspiring with terrorists. Sounds to me like that infringes on your personal rights.
No sir. Humanitarian aid, employment, visiting relatives, etc... is fine. If proven, that you left the country to fight WITH ISIS, you will face charges. Fairly simple...and fair law in my view.
 

GPIDEAL

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He could certainly use the law to stop journalists that are not favorable to the govt from going there.
It was discussed this morning, that exceptions include journalists and humanitarian aid workers. Not sure about family relatives though.
 

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Yes, apparently, if you visit Syria because you want to FIGHT ISIL, then it's okay.
The Canadian government strongly discourages Canadians from joining the fight against ISIS as individuals. If you want to fight ISIS, join the Canadian military.
 

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You still don't understand how things work OMG!! The law goes though and only after YEARS can it be challenged in the courts. I am amazed people still don't get this after the whole C-36 debacle.
You do realize we are in an election period right?
 

GPIDEAL

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No sir. Humanitarian aid, employment, visiting relatives, etc... is fine. If proven, that you left the country to fight WITH ISIS, you will face charges. Fairly simple...and fair law in my view.
So visiting relatives and employment are confirmed exceptions?
 

fmahovalich

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The point being....TRUDEAU IS FINE WITH PEOPLE GOING TO FIGHT WITH ISIS. Most people should,have a problem with that.
 

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So this week Harper brought in an election plank - that being terror travel will be criminalized. It is ok to go to countries of terror for legitimate reasons, but to date we have over a 100 Canadians who have travelled to fight WITH ISIS. Harper would criminalize these 100 folks.

Justins response .....Wait for it.... This law will infringe on terrorists RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS.



Oh Justin...Justin...Justin....
It's this kind of lying bullshit that keeps me from supporting harper

Do get paid for spreading these lies?
 

fmahovalich

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Where did he say that? I will answer for you- no where.
if you have been reading papers, listening to news, you will have understood the position put forth by Trudeau. After all, the left should at least understand what Trudeau is saying, if they are going to vote for him.

he has, for a long time been weak on terror. Go back and look at the evidence. And that is fine. You may be voting for him for many other reasons. (His hair for instance) But to just bash Harper, and fail to comprehend Trudeaus position, that being that Harper is removing rights of Canadian terrorists who want to travel and fight for ISIs, then you are not caught up on current events.
 

fmahovalich

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These sort of actions by him resonate with the notion of a "hidden agenda".

No no hidden agenda by Harper. He has come out and said it.....He will criminalize Canadians who travel to support terror.

What is hidden....and apparently unable to be found by the leftists...is Trudeaus true feelings, that being that he is fine with Canadians traveling to fight with ISIS, because Canadians have rights.
 

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Still no link or reference from those who "…saw this". Meanwhile the yesterday's Star quotes a CPoC spokesperson, when asked about recruiting for anti-ISIS forces, 'clarifying" Our Dear Leader's original statement by saying "…mercenary activities" were OK.

Of course if the security-fanboys in CPoC really were serious, they would have done something while Parliament was in session, instead of waiting until they'd dissolved it and could get away with meaningless promises and half-truths.

By their arithmetic, a half-truth wipes clean the half-lies that are their stock in trade.
Amen to that! Sooo....true.

Also interesting that under PM Harpoon we had to pay higher fees for heightened airport security and screening.
Yet there is little evidence that anything was done about it. Has anyone noticed anything different at Pearson from a couple of years ago when these measures were supposedly implemented?

They still have the same poorly paid airport security services that they've always had doing the same old, same old, and breaches of airport security have made the news on a number of occasions.
 
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