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Clinton has been documented to be on 26 flights to Epstein's island.

He's not going down there to work on his tan.......Come on now.


If you have actual proof, I am listening.

If its guilty by association, then of course you are including Trump in the baseless accusations. They did spend a lot of time together. Epstein met young miss Giuffre when she worked at the Mar-a-logo resort.

But Clinton and Trump had other things in common. They both loved other peoples money. Clinton running a charity, and his wife still in politics. Trump being a masterclass grifter, always needed money to fund his property deals.

Still. I do not claim to know it all. If someone has proof, I will listen. Not really a fan of Clinton or Trump. But I hate it when people are wrongly accused for political BS. And pedophilia is a big accusation. Pizza gate. Remember that BS?
 
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And just so we are clear... the news wing at Fox confirmed no documented flights to Lolita Island. How many fucking times are you going to be hoodwinked by BS right wing reported designed to character assasinate for political gain before you get it?

"Virginia Roberts, 32, who claims she was pimped out by Epstein at age 15, has previously claimed she saw Clinton at Epstein’s getaway in 2002, but logs do not show Clinton aboard any flights to St. Thomas, the nearest airport capable of accommodating Epstein's plane. They do show Clinton flying aboard Epstein’s plane to such destinations as Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, China, Brunei, London, New York, the Azores, Belgium, Norway, Russia and Africa."

You do realize a flight log can be falsified right? How do you think he transported underage
Girls?
 

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You do realize a flight log can be falsified right? How do you think he transported underage
Girls?
Got proof that happened, or just pulling it out of your ass?

And you do realize, I didn't even include the NY Times story on it because I knew the simps would just say "fake news" and "liberal bias"... I used the Fox reporting on purpose. Had they had any proof Clinton went to that Island, they would have been on it like a fat kid on a smartie.

And again, if he did go... he deserves to be shot and pissed on. However... as of now, it's all right wing slander and BS to fool the rubes. You a rube?

Pizza gate... the 400 person Clinton body count... Lolita Island... hmmm, there seems to be a pattern emerging.
 
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Got proof that happened, or just pulling it out of your ass?

And you do realize, I didn't even include the NY Times story on it because I knew the simps would just say "fake news" and "liberal bias"... I used the Fox reporting on purpose. Had they had any proof Clinton went to that Island, they would have been on it like a fat kid on a smartie.

And again, if he did go... he deserves to be shot and pissed on. However... as of now, it's all right wing slander and BS to fool the rubes. You a rube?

Pizza gate... the 400 person Clinton body count... Lolita Island... hmmm, there seems to be a pattern emerging.
Monica Lewinsky...wake tfu
 

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Got proof that happened, or just pulling it out of your ass?

And you do realize, I didn't even include the NY Times story on it because I knew the simps would just say "fake news" and "liberal bias"... I used the Fox reporting on purpose. Had they had any proof Clinton went to that Island, they would have been on it like a fat kid on a smartie.

And again, if he did go... he deserves to be shot and pissed on. However... as of now, it's all right wing slander and BS to fool the rubes. You a rube?

Pizza gate... the 400 person Clinton body count... Lolita Island... hmmm, there seems to be a pattern emerging.
I think the possibility that to prevent an ex president, any ex president, from criminal charges is really really high. By the Secret Service(which has more power than many realize) and various other organizations as well.

Clinton is a horn dog, just like Andrew and what appears to be other names listed on the manifests. I would even go so far to say he would be smart(or not filthy) enough not to have engaged with any underagers. But that much time spent between two of like mind?

I have monger friends, and other friends. Wanna guess when I travelled with the monger friends where we inevitably ended up? He travelled with Epstein enough they were monger friends. That's why an investigation is needed.
 

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I think the possibility that to prevent an ex president, any ex president, from criminal charges is really really high. By the Secret Service(which has more power than many realize) and various other organizations as well.

Clinton is a horn dog, just like Andrew and what appears to be other names listed on the manifests. I would even go so far to say he would be smart(or not filthy) enough not to have engaged with any underagers. But that much time spent between two of like mind?

I have monger friends, and other friends. Wanna guess when I travelled with the monger friends where we inevitably ended up? He travelled with Epstein enough they were monger friends. That's why an investigation is needed.
I am sure you "feel" that way. I notice you missed Trumps name in all of that.

Bottom line. You hate Clinton. Fine. But you invested in the BS, and still have nothing. No record of trips to the Island. No credible accusers. And I can say the same for Trump. Poor judgement from a pair of ex presidents... but nothing criminal pertaining to underage girls.

I am not arguing moot points anymore. I will let you go back to Alex Jones analogies.
 
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I am sure you "feel" that way. I notice you missed Trumps name in all of that.

Bottom line. You hate Clinton. Fine. But you invested in the BS, and still have nothing. No record of trips to the Island. No credible accusers. And I can say the same for Trump. Poor judgement from a pair of ex presidents... but nothing criminal pertaining to underage girls.

I am not arguing moot points anymore. I will let you go back to Alex Jones analogies.
Im pretty sure Trump was not on the plane. And banned Epstein. But I have also said if Trump ever did he should be prosecuted fully.

That NY scene is small. Remember Clinton and Trump socialized. And their kids were good friends. So yes pictures at social events were common.

Clinton lied about the # of trips he took. I think there are more. Let the investigation hapoen.
 

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Im pretty sure Trump was not on the plane. And banned Epstein. But I have also said if Trump ever did he should be prosecuted fully.

That NY scene is small. Remember Clinton and Trump socialized. And their kids were good friends. So yes pictures at social events were common.

Clinton lied about the # of trips he took. I think there are more. Let the investigation hapoen.
No he didn't. He took four trips to Europe and Africa... which included multiple flights. I already showed earlier in the thread, and included the Fox News records of it.
 
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Clinton is a piece of shit, remember him lying to the whole world on video?

What was released during this trial?
Other then ghislaine liked to give epstein foot massages?
 

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I’m not sure how this whole thing is sitting with me. These dirt bags were creepy as fuck but I’m not clear on where the legal line is drawn.
 

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No he didn't. He took four trips to Europe and Africa... which included multiple flights. I already showed earlier in the thread, and included the Fox News records of it.
Cmon......Clinton is a horndog monger. You know he indulged. Epstein had it on hand and that was what he did. Procure girls. That was his life. And why the rich and powerful hung around with him.
 

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Clinton could have had any adult female he wanted in his heyday, trump probably as well. Probably more tramps though. Most adult males aren't attracted to teenage girls.
 

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TONS of celebs were there, including Will Smith, being somewhere does not make someone automatically guilty by association, especially in those circles. Being outright named, kinda has more weight, no?

Clinton has been documented to be on 26 flights to Epstein's island.

He's not going down there to work on his tan.......Come on now.
 
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To be fair, on girl did say she knew a "famous hotel tycoon" to be involved in getting "massages" from the underage girls. Isn't Trump a hotel tycoon?

Ummm. No. When Questioned, one of Clinton's spokes persons said he had been on 4 "Trips" to Asia with Epstein on charity stuff.

Then, some right winger did some digging and it got reported he had been on 15 "flights".

And right wingers do what they always do... start the malicious shit with no proof of anything. When the NY Times investigated the discrepancy in numbers, they found he took more than one flight on each trip to Asia.

You see, the Clinton's reported the "Trips", and the right wingers reported the "flights"... And they are 2 different things.

Any reporting that states he has been to Epstiens Island has been as credible as Hilary Clinton murdered Anthony Bordain.

Now, I tend to take women seriously when they claim sexual assault. That does not mean I believe every story, but I am willing to listen, and see if it makes sense. Prince Andrew has been accused. I am listening. But so far neither Clinton, nor Trump have had any credible accusers. Both had close ties with Epstein, both notorious womanizers. It would have come out by now.

Remember... Prince Andrew is accused. You can pretend they are scared, but they are taking on the Royals.

Instead... it's just the slander.
 

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That isn't at all how "innocent until proven guilty" works.

Cmon......Clinton is a horndog monger. You know he indulged. Epstein had it on hand and that was what he did. Procure girls. That was his life. And why the rich and powerful hung around with him.
 

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Cmon......Clinton is a horndog monger. You know he indulged. Epstein had it on hand and that was what he did. Procure girls. That was his life. And why the rich and powerful hung around with him.
Well, if that is your evidence...

It's a little disappointing that even when shown direct proof that right wing media blatantly lied to you (26 trips to Lolita Island), you still choose to believe right wing media on that very topic. I guess that's why people still believe pizzagate was real, the Clintons have had 400 enemies murdered, and the election was stolen... Good luck with all that!
 

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To be fair, on girl did say she knew a "famous hotel tycoon" to be involved in getting "massages" from the underage girls. Isn't Trump a hotel tycoon?
Hear say about hear say...

Trump is womanizer. So is Clinton. Both known dirtbag cheaters and liars. I need proof before I jump to pedo's. Right now I have none. I have a lot of media and especially social media slander. It might be out there. I am only defending the fact that people are misrepresenting media reports about flight logs.
 
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Well, if that is your evidence...

It's a little disappointing that even when shown direct proof that right wing media blatantly lied to you (26 trips to Lolita Island), you still choose to believe right wing media on that very topic. I guess that's why people still believe pizzagate was real, the Clintons have had 400 enemies murdered, and the election was stolen... Good luck with all that!
Drop the pizzagate angle. Next you're going to say that right wingers believe that JFK Jr is still alive.

These misguided ideas are fringe Qanon concepts. That's all.
 
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