Maxwell guilty

[poker]

Drop the pizzagate angle. Next you're going to say that right wingers believe that JFK Jr is still alive.

These misguided ideas are fringe Qanon concepts. That's all.

That is fair. I tend to get lumped in with a lot of dumb shit that really isn't left wing. Still... its fun to be dramatic.

 

[nottyboi]

I’m not sure how this whole thing is sitting with me. These dirt bags were creepy as fuck but I’m not clear on where the legal line is drawn.

Exactly, firstly it happend a long time ago, the women could be motivated by other things. Some things that confuse me, what is the difference between grooming and seduction? What was done to these women when they were below the age of consent AT THE TIME. Where was it done and which countries laws apply. Many advanced countries in Europe have 14 as the age of consent. There were also huge inconstancies and contradictions in the testimony that make them unreliable.

 

[Butler1000]

That isn't at all how "innocent until proven guilty" works.

It is however how investigations are started and continue. And this whole nasty business has seen coverups and sweetheart pleas in Florida, the suspicious death of a weak man, ties to intelligence services, and numerous powerful names crop up.

Too much smoke for there not to be some fires.

 

[Butler1000]

Well, if that is your evidence...

It's a little disappointing that even when shown direct proof that right wing media blatantly lied to you (26 trips to Lolita Island), you still choose to believe right wing media on that very topic. I guess that's why people still believe pizzagate was real, the Clintons have had 400 enemies murdered, and the election was stolen... Good luck with all that!

The picture of him getting a massage in a private plane lounge says it all. Epstein alwsys brought girls slong. It was the all he cared about.

Are you going to look at me with a straight face and say Bill Clinton would have turned it down? In what he considered like minded company, in privacy, wifey no where around? He knew exactly what Epstein was about.

 

[seagerbuzz]

But no one super famous was implicated in the trial so therefore the whole thing was a cover up.

-- I assume that will be the official story for the people who were invested in this.

Why do you think she's still alive.

 

[Darts]

Peter Nygard is in deeper goo.
Peter Nygard has aged dramatically in jail, at increased risk of stroke or heart attack, doctor says | CBC News

 

[johnyboy]

Was an adult.

Gateway pussy...

 

[Adam_hadam]

Clinton has been documented to be on 26 flights to Epstein's island.

He's not going down there to work on his tan.......Come on now.

How many times did drumpf and his tart mila go again?
Politicize it all you want.

 

[Jasmina]

Investigations start when there is a substantial reason to investigate, Clinton being on flights with Epstein is not enough to launch a formal investigation. The righties conspiracy theories are not "evidence".

It is however how investigations are started and continue. And this whole nasty business has seen coverups and sweetheart pleas in Florida, the suspicious death of a weak man, ties to intelligence services, and numerous powerful names crop up.

Too much smoke for there not to be some fires.

 

[Jasmina]

You can't "seduce" a child, it doesn't matter what the "legal" age is in some other backwater Countries, a child is a child.

Exactly, firstly it happend a long time ago, the women could be motivated by other things. Some things that confuse me, what is the difference between grooming and seduction? What was done to these women when they were below the age of consent AT THE TIME. Where was it done and which countries laws apply. Many advanced countries in Europe have 14 as the age of consent. There were also huge inconstancies and contradictions in the testimony that make them unreliable.

 

[shack]

Clinton has been documented to be on 26 flights to Epstein's island.

He's not going down there to work on his tan.......Come on now.

He plays sax in a Springsteen cover band on the east side of the island every 2 or 3 weeks. Hence the flights.

 

[Charlemagne]

Epstein settlement with accuser who filed lawsuit against Prince Andrew to be made public

Epstein settlement with accuser who filed lawsuit against Prince Andrew to be made public

A 2009 settlement agreement between deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Giuffre, who alleges she was abused by Epstein and forced to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was under

thehill.com

 

[Insidious Von]

The picture of him getting a massage in a private plane lounge says it all. Epstein alwsys brought girls slong. It was the all he cared about.

The Epstein Bros were international financiers with assets worth $3.4 billion US. Even after he became a registered sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein had a net worth of $557 million. That exceeds Trump and way more than Clinton. For powerful men there are more important items to consider than pussy. His younger, folically challenged, brother Mark Epstein nearly inherited Jeffrey's estate. Sexually he's the polar opposite of his deceased older brother but he may be more dangerous. He is the epitome of a vulture capitalist whom Mitt Romney bends the knee to.

Mark Epstein stays in the shadows, there's hardly any info on him to be found.

 

[harryass]

No brainer verdict on Maxwell. So what' next?

 

[mandrill]

The Epstein Bros were international financiers with assets worth $3.4 billion US. Even after he became a registered sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein had a net worth of $557 million. That exceeds Trump and way more than Clinton. For powerful men there are more important items to consider than pussy. His younger, folically challenged, brother Mark Epstein nearly inherited Jeffrey's estate. Sexually he's the polar opposite of his deceased older brother but he may be more dangerous. He is the epitome of a vulture capitalist whom Mitt Romney bends the knee to.

Mark Epstein stays in the shadows, there's hardly any info on him to be found.

IV, did the Epstein's inherit the money or make it themselves?

 

[Insidious Von]

IV, did the Epstein's inherit the money or make it themselves?

I don't know, Mark Epstein and Paul Singer (Elliot Management) are cut from the same cloth, far more is known about Singer. It's been said that Jeffrey Epstein was a speculator with the Midas Touch who enjoyed the Gordon Gecko lifestyle.

Speaking of being cut from the same cloth, so are Prince Andrew and Howard Stern. Their wives are disasters (more on Stern later), Sarah Ferguson failed miserably on everything she attempted. The only talent she has is shopping, she's a degenerate spendthrift. The Queen got fed up with her loose money ways and cut her off. Jeffrey Epstein, ever the opportunist, payed her bills in return for Royal access, he and the Malvinas Rambo became fast friends.

 

[danmand]

I don't know, Mark Epstein and Paul Singer (Elliot Management) are cut from the same cloth, far more is known about Singer. It's been said that Jeffrey Epstein was a speculator with the Midas Touch who enjoyed the Gordon Gecko lifestyle.

Speaking of being cut from the same cloth, so are Prince Andrew and Howard Stern. Their wives are disasters (more on Stern later), Sarah Ferguson failed miserably on everything she attempted. The only talent she has is shopping, she's a degenerate spendthrift. The Queen got fed up with her loose money ways and cut her off. Jeffrey Epstein, ever the opportunist, payed her bills in return for Royal access, he and the Malvinas Rambo became fast friends.

Most likely the Mossad paid Maxwell and Epstein.

 

[Valcazar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1476344631122182144

Tell me where he is wrong....

Was the trial's purpose to expose these connections?

No charges against anyone beyond the two. These were underage girls who testified they were give over to other people.

A statement like the one you just made implies guys who use underage girls procured by pimps shouldn't be investigated, outed and charged.

That's ridiculous.
Why would I be against investigating those people?

All I am saying is that there were a bunch of people invested in this trial "breaking the whole thing open" - "the whole thing" being something they are sure exists (not just "there were other people involved" but "this guy I hate was involved").

When your worldview is "I already know the answer and I know it is being covered up" then you were bound to be disappointed/vindicated in your disappointment because nothing that happens could ever satisfy you.

 

[chrispalen]

Wait till her lawyers make a deal to shorten her years in jail by exposing several of the high profile dudes,
e.g. Clinton, Gates, Andrew etc etc. She has nothing to lose.

CP

 

[Butler1000]

Was the trial's purpose to expose these connections?



That's ridiculous.
Why would I be against investigating those people?

All I am saying is that there were a bunch of people invested in this trial "breaking the whole thing open" - "the whole thing" being something they are sure exists (not just "there were other people involved" but "this guy I hate was involved").

When your worldview is "I already know the answer and I know it is being covered up" then you were bound to be disappointed/vindicated in your disappointment because nothing that happens could ever satisfy you.

Too much smoke. There be fires.