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danmand

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Wait till her lawyers make a deal to shorten her years in jail by exposing several of the high profile dudes,
e.g. Clinton, Gates, Andrew etc etc. She has nothing to lose.
Except her life. She knows who she is dealing with. First her father, then Epstein.
 

Valcazar

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Too much smoke. There be fires.
Which means nothing.
It is a nice vague statement that you can fit into whatever you want or find out later.

As it stands now, your position is unfalsifiable, which is why it is so hard to take you seriously.

If they hadn't arrested Maxwell, it would be proof of the conspiracy.
If she had been found not guilty, it would be proof of the conspiracy.
She was found guilty, which is proof of the conspiracy.
You have a list of names in your head which, unless they are arrested and found guilty, is poof of the conspiracy.
If any are arrested, that what they get arrested or convicted for doesn't match what is in your head will be proof of the conspiracy.

And so on, and so on.
 
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Which means nothing.
It is a nice vague statement that you can fit into whatever you want or find out later.

As it stands now, your position is unfalsifiable, which is why it is so hard to take you seriously.

If they hadn't arrested Maxwell, it would be proof of the conspiracy.
If she had been found not guilty, it would be proof of the conspiracy.
She was found guilty, which is proof of the conspiracy.
You have a list of names in your head which, unless they are arrested and found guilty, is poof of the conspiracy.
If any are arrested, that what they get arrested or convicted for doesn't match what is in your head will be proof of the conspiracy.

And so on, and so on.
As no one, despite clear testimony from the victims, has been looked at, I'd say yes they are letting people go because of their power.

No I don't have a list. But you can bet there is one.

For whatever reason you don't want an investigation.
 

danmand

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Transportation Vs Destination: Maxwell's Conviction Leaves Glaring Questions Over The Lack Of Prosecutions

THURSDAY, DEC 30, 2021 - 08:20 PM
Authored by Jonathan Turley,
The conviction of Ghislaine Maxwell for five out of six criminal charges was heralded by many as bringing some justice for the girls abused through her actions. Indeed, the Southern District of New York correctly called the underlying conduct as “one of the worst crimes imaginable – facilitating and participating in the sexual abuse of children.” However, that statement only begged the question of why none of the men listed on flights of the “Lolita Express” or on the guest lists of these parties have been prosecuted. That list includes former presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump as well as Prince Andrew and an assortment of billionaires. It is not clear if these men committed criminal acts but it is also not clear that they have been formally questioned by the FBI.


As I discussed last night, this criminal enterprise was allegedly not only to bring girls and women to Epstein but to his powerful friends. Without pursuing those alleged “johns,” the Maxwell prosecution seems like arresting a getaway driver but letting the bank robbers escape.
The pictures of men on these trips are now well-known. They do not in themselves establish criminal conduct. For example, the pictures of Clinton getting a message from a 22-year-old woman is not illegal and she later described him as a “perfect gentleman.”

However, Clinton has been accused of misleading the public on his number of flights with Epstein. The media has reported at least 26 flights with Epstein. Being a repeated guest with an infamous child molester raises obvious concerns. It is certainly enough to warrant questioning by the FBI.
Then there is Prince Andrew who has been pursued for questioning. Much of the litigation, however, has come from civil litigation. Prince Andrew recently put forward a novel defense in one such case.

Yet, there is a concern that the Justice Department has previously worked to scuttle rather than to pursue the underlying wrongdoing, including a disgraceful plea agreement. I was an early and vocal critic of that deal with Epstein. Despite a strong case for prosecution, Epstein’s lawyers were able to secure a ridiculous deal with prosecutors. He was accused of abusing more than forty minor girls (with many between the ages of 13 and 17). Epstein pleaded guilty to a Florida state charge of felony solicitation of underage girls in 2008 and served a 13-month jail sentence. Epstein was facing a 53-page indictment that could have resulted in life in prison. However, he got the 13 month deal. Moreover, to my lasting surprise, former Miami U.S. attorney Alexander Acosta was inexplicably made labor secretary under Trump. He later resigned.
While the FBI aggressively (and correctly) pursued Maxwell, there is no evidence of such a concerted effort to investigate the men who may have been involved in sex trafficking. Given the all-out effort on Ashley Biden’s diary, it would be good to see an equal effort on Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged co-conspirators.
If Epstein allegedly transported women and girls to his island for visits with himself and these men, there is ample reason to interview them. It is not clear if Maxwell has further evidence to offer, but this is the time to produce it. While she is not practically looking at 65 years, she can easily receive a sentence around 15 years even as a first offender. That sentence could be reduced with cooperation credit. What is not clear is how focused the SDNY is on developing cases that focus not just on the “transportation” but the destination of these flights.
 

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Too much smoke. There be fires.
The smoke you see is to obscure the truth, the fire you see is an illusion in the mirrors. They want you to see a millionaire/billionaire indulging in pedo activities. What they do not want you to see is the honey pot snare operation Epstein and Maxwell was running to entrap rich and powerful people.
 
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Valcazar

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As no one, despite clear testimony from the victims, has been looked at, I'd say yes they are letting people go because of their power.

No I don't have a list. But you can bet there is one.

For whatever reason you don't want an investigation.
Who said I don't want an investigation?
I pointed out that the people who thought this trial was going to be a series of revelations about other people than the people at trial were going to be disappointed.

I have no idea who else is being looked at or not and we wouldn't know from this trial anyway.
 

danmand

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The smoke you see is to obscure the truth, the fire you see is an illusion in the mirrors. They want you to see a millionaire/billionaire indulging in pedo activities. What they do not want you to see is the honey pot snare operation Epstein and Maxwell was running to entrap rich and powerful people.
Anybody who exposes that is going to end up like Assange.
 

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Oblivion
Epstein settlement with accuser who filed lawsuit against Prince Andrew to be made public
Prince Andrew, now In exile. is a major fuck up, must have cost the Royal family a great deal of money in hush payments and extortion until the shit hit the fan publicly with much more legal bills to come. The British taxpayer is underwriting some of these legal bills
 
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