With McCabes new contract he cant be traded, Cut, Sent to Minors, Put on Waivers.Kathleen said:
The only thing that could be done is a Healthy Scratch.
Unless he waives his no trade clause but I think he will enjoy his 5 million a year for 5 years.
McCabe SUCKS ASS - BRUTAL, BRUTAL, BRUTAL
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The only thing that could be done is a Healthy Scratch.
Unless he waives his no trade clause but I think he will enjoy his 5 million a year for 5 years.
I stopped watching these guys when they went 2 games into their 7 game losing skid. To be honest I have been really less stressed out not watching this team. I have watched the highlights and it's been pathetic.
How is he supposed to do that? He was only good when he was able to use that can opener move and clutch and grab. With the new rules, we now truly see how terrible his lateral movement, foot speed and hockey sense really is.Kathleen said:
He's just not a good defenceman or hockey player. All he really has is a good shot.
I think they need to dress 7 defenceman for a game, but make him sit on the bench and let the other 6 play. Maybe that'll send a message.
All this talk about McCabe being bad - well - who else will the Leafs play?
Gill is a pylon. Coliacovo is made of glass. White is about as tough as a box of kittens. Kubina. . . well let's just leave that one alone. The only decent defenseman the Leafs have is Kaberle and even he looks bad some nights in his defensive coverage - couldn't cover Kelly on his goal in the OT loss to the Sens tonight.
McCabe is in most, if not all, top 5 offensive categories for all NHL defencemen - just be happy with that and worry about all the other problems the Leafs have right now. Such as O'Neill not being able to skate anymore. Or Steen/Stajan being very overrated. Or Peca taking early retirement. Or Antropov needing a medical team at every game. Or. . . well. . . the list could go on forever.
Gill is a pylon. Coliacovo is made of glass. White is about as tough as a box of kittens. Kubina. . . well let's just leave that one alone. The only decent defenseman the Leafs have is Kaberle and even he looks bad some nights in his defensive coverage - couldn't cover Kelly on his goal in the OT loss to the Sens tonight.
McCabe is in most, if not all, top 5 offensive categories for all NHL defencemen - just be happy with that and worry about all the other problems the Leafs have right now. Such as O'Neill not being able to skate anymore. Or Steen/Stajan being very overrated. Or Peca taking early retirement. Or Antropov needing a medical team at every game. Or. . . well. . . the list could go on forever.
I've been pretty impressed with Coliacovo for his strong physical presence, though he's too offensive minded, he does make a real good ever so important first pass in the D zone, though.
Gill leads the team in hits, so although he's had his hiccups, he's necessary on the team.
White still plays like an AHLer, actually like a career AHLer, imo.
Kubina is playing like a winger on the point.
as for Kaber and Caber, they play too much ice time to be as effective as possible each night.
McCabe has serious issues in his own end of the rink. But, still, he's one of the leafs best defensemen... and his offense is necessary when the forwards aren't scoring. (he's a big reason why they score, too)
Kaberle is the teams best Defensemen, and is one of the league's top--- but, you won't hear much of that in Toronto.
i wonder if the fans have excepted Kaberle's play yet... he was harshly criticized as a pilon, even here on terb as recent as last season- even though Berg and Belak shared top spots for dog-house dwellers.
i've said this before, years ago actually (when they were both available cheap), but, Perhaps if a Brendan Witt and Mike Commodore both manned the points on the 2nd or 3rd units, we'd look alot sharper in our own end. both are mobile, big, and rugged and excellent shot blockers. it wouldn't necessarily have to be these 2, actually there are a few really good D coming available in the new year prior to the deadline. and the off season will provide some players to drool over.
big problem though- we only have about $500,000 of cap space available with a doable 2.5M opening from Peca's injury.
on another note: Pogge played ok at Spengler, but lacked the game saving performance in the big game. his weaknesses seems to be rebound control and general puck control- as it was him that gave up the gw in trying to play the puck behind the net. I'm not so sure he'll be the leafs goalie of the future. From what i've seen from him, he's a career backup at best- or can turn into one of the AHL's top goaltenders. But, definitely not an NHL all-star like prospected...
Gill leads the team in hits, so although he's had his hiccups, he's necessary on the team.
White still plays like an AHLer, actually like a career AHLer, imo.
Kubina is playing like a winger on the point.
as for Kaber and Caber, they play too much ice time to be as effective as possible each night.
McCabe has serious issues in his own end of the rink. But, still, he's one of the leafs best defensemen... and his offense is necessary when the forwards aren't scoring. (he's a big reason why they score, too)
Kaberle is the teams best Defensemen, and is one of the league's top--- but, you won't hear much of that in Toronto.
i wonder if the fans have excepted Kaberle's play yet... he was harshly criticized as a pilon, even here on terb as recent as last season- even though Berg and Belak shared top spots for dog-house dwellers.
i've said this before, years ago actually (when they were both available cheap), but, Perhaps if a Brendan Witt and Mike Commodore both manned the points on the 2nd or 3rd units, we'd look alot sharper in our own end. both are mobile, big, and rugged and excellent shot blockers. it wouldn't necessarily have to be these 2, actually there are a few really good D coming available in the new year prior to the deadline. and the off season will provide some players to drool over.
big problem though- we only have about $500,000 of cap space available with a doable 2.5M opening from Peca's injury.
on another note: Pogge played ok at Spengler, but lacked the game saving performance in the big game. his weaknesses seems to be rebound control and general puck control- as it was him that gave up the gw in trying to play the puck behind the net. I'm not so sure he'll be the leafs goalie of the future. From what i've seen from him, he's a career backup at best- or can turn into one of the AHL's top goaltenders. But, definitely not an NHL all-star like prospected...
On another note, how about the one they gave away, Rask.21pro said:
He gave up 3 goals in the 3rd to lose to Belarus. WTF. If he was still Leaf property we'd hear everyone moaning about how the Leafs were stupid to keep him and he'll never be an all-star. Instead, it's like the Leafs gave away the next Pat Roy.
or possibly we could be too hard on these young players.
Giguerre, Brodeur, Fleury and Luongo all had their share of disappointments at this level.
i think ditching Rask wasn't a bad deal with another prospect in the pipelines, and yet, i'm one of the few that still thinks Raycroft is a good goaltender. he's just playing in the harshest environment for criticism and overall one of the most sour hockey markets on the planet.
Giguerre, Brodeur, Fleury and Luongo all had their share of disappointments at this level.
i think ditching Rask wasn't a bad deal with another prospect in the pipelines, and yet, i'm one of the few that still thinks Raycroft is a good goaltender. he's just playing in the harshest environment for criticism and overall one of the most sour hockey markets on the planet.
I agree. Raycroft was not intended to be a saviour. He's only getting 2 mil. He's a stopgap to get them through a few years until Pogge develops (hopefully). As he was Rookie of the Year there was/is the possibility of a large upside. If not he'll still better than the brutal season Belfour had last year and for a relatively modest sum.21pro said:
Rask is unproven, they still have a blue chip prospect and Raycroft, if not spectacular should play adequately enough (assuming they get a decent team in front of him). Goaltending now and in the future does not appear to be the major issue as I see it with this team.
Wrong Kath, its the fans that are the cause of 40+ years of no Stanley cup, if the fans stopped filling up the ACC every night and stopped watching them on TV, the owners would be forced to bring a better product on the ice.Kathleen said:
But since they have a full arena and they have TSN, CBC, Dirtectv and sportsnet on TV deals, why the hell should they care how many games the Leafs win???!!!
I didn't follow a lot of the Spengler...
...the things you are saying above could be applied to Marc-Andre Fleury..he had the same kind of faux pas in an international game..but he's seen as a large cog in the future of the Pens...
N2G
...but most of what I heard was pretty positive in regards to Pogge's play...let's not forget the guy is.... I think...19 yrs old??....very young in terms of netminding
...the things you are saying above could be applied to Marc-Andre Fleury..he had the same kind of faux pas in an international game..but he's seen as a large cog in the future of the Pens...
N2G
yes, what you say is correct... and as to what i alluded to:
I like the slow path of how they want to bring Pogge in.. you risk him never leaping from AHLer to FT NHLer as was the case with Tellqvist, but, you also are investing smartly in the future of the team, and of Pogge himself as he can address all aspects of his game to arrive on the scene fully prepared.
I don't know why were talkin' Goalies on a McCabe thread, but WTF... is McCabe really that bad that we resort to speaking goaltenders???
MA Fleury was also rushed into his career in such a way that some say is a disservice to him and his confidence... i see some truth to the argument. he's a stellar goalie, but still has scary off nights when you just ask "WTF are ya doing?" but, the problem in Pittsburgh was that there was no better tender in the system over there ever since Fleury showed up and no $$$ to get a dependable 'tender...- and so, you play the best of what you got.... i guess.
I like the slow path of how they want to bring Pogge in.. you risk him never leaping from AHLer to FT NHLer as was the case with Tellqvist, but, you also are investing smartly in the future of the team, and of Pogge himself as he can address all aspects of his game to arrive on the scene fully prepared.
I don't know why were talkin' Goalies on a McCabe thread, but WTF... is McCabe really that bad that we resort to speaking goaltenders???
