WoodPeckr said:Skippy,
How about you review this thread.
BTW, do you happen to work for K Rove?
It was YOU that went from MM to LBJ as a retort as to which side had the bigger idiots.
I said:
Originally Posted by WoodPeckr
At least our idiots on the left don't get hundreds of thousands killed based on lies like those idiots on the right!.....
lfiat responded:
Is that so?
I have 3 words for you.
Lyndon Baines Johnson
.....As if LBJ was responsible for NAM.
To which I replied:
Well I will counter that with 3 words for you.
Dwight David Eisenhower!
It was Ike, in fact, who got the US into that Viet Nam Debacle in the first place. LBJ just 'carried on' what Ike started.
Funny thing it was Ike who warned us about the MIC.
Ike knew first hand what these bastards in the MIC were capable of.
Cheney/Dubya, lacking any conscience, just do the bidding of the MIC....
It was here your 'fallback' retort was to throw in JFK to muddy the issue.
you replied:
I couldn't help but notice you left Kennedy out of the debate on Vietnam.
As for Eisenhower. I would argue that his conduct in Europe during WW2 saved many lives.
I replied:
LOL !!!!
That's because Ike left JFK out of what was happening in Nam!!!!!!
JFK was completely blindsided about Nam when JFK became POTUS.
It wasn't till 1960 that JFK learned the extent of US involvment in Nam.
You know how the GOP likes to 'hide things from us', well they hid it from JFK and us also.....
Now YOU go back to MM and reply:
Woody,
You need to cut back on the Michael Moore propaganda, it's clouding your.....er.........judgement, for lack of a better word.
Cut back on the MM letters and try reading a history book every now and again.
Kennedy was a staunch believer in the domino effect and supported the initial involvement in Vietnam. He was the one who trippled the amount of military advisors there in the early part of 1961.
I replied:
Everyone believed in the domino MYTH back then!!!!!!
That's all the GOP carped on about!!!!!
If you didn't swallow that bull you were 'soft on communism', etc.
In the end it all proved to be pure GOP BULLSH*T!!!!!!
Now the rage was WMDs.....more pure GOP BULLSH*T!!!!!!
The more things change, the more the GOP reamains the SAME!!!....
Sure JFK did some escalation in his 1000 days, but LBJ escalated things to the nth degree hoping to end things sooner and from GOP goading to escalate. LBJ did the major killing/bombimg in NAM, JFK's body counts were low by comparison. Now we has Dubya (who spent most of his time during NAM in the Air Force in a 'Blow & Booze' Stupor) escalating in Iraq all over again!
Dam I really don't know what WTF I'm doing,
I just do what Uncle DICK tells me to do!!!
More history according to a cross eyed woodpecker
