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Milton Man, 22, charged with murder after fatally shooting suspect who tried to rob his house, lawyer says

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A 22-year-old is facing murder charges after he shot and killed a man who was allegedly attempting to rob his family home in Milton, Ont., his lawyer says.

The incident happened on Feb. 19 at about 5 a.m. at a residence on Gibson Crescent, which is near Ontario Street South and Louis St. Laurent Avenue

According to Halton Regional Police Service, a group of suspects “intent on committing a robbery” approached the house in question.

Once inside, they were reportedly confronted by an occupant and a number of gunshots were then fired within the home. A man was pronounced dead at the scene.

Ali Mian, who lives in the home with his single mother, is now facing second-degree murder charges, his lawyer says.

In a statement provided to CP24, criminal lawyer Jag Virk said his client "shot at an intruder that broke into his home and attacked his mother."

"He is a registered firearm owner and used his gun legally against an armed intruder," Virk said. "He shouldn't be charged with murder for protecting his mother from someone that broke into his home."

Virk said Mian’s intention was "not to kill the intruder, he only shot at him once."

Halton police said the investigation ongoing and that detectives are currently looking for information pertaining to three outstanding suspects who they said fled the scene in a light-coloured Dodge Charger with a sunroof and black wheels.

Romario Clarke, 20, was also arrested when officers when arrived at the scene. He has been charged with one count of break and enter and unauthorized possession of a firearm.

On Sunday, investigators said the shooting was “isolated to the home and appears to be targeted.” They also advised residents that they should expect to see a “continued police presence” in the area, as the investigation is underway.
 

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Only in Canada self defence is a crime. What exactly did they expect the guy to do with an intruder in the middle of the night trying to rob him ?
 

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Intruders were armed… why is this guy being charged with anything?

“20 yr old Romario Clarke is being charged with break and enter, and unauthorized possession of a firearm.”
 

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Only in Canada self defence is a crime. What exactly did they expect the guy to do with an intruder in the middle of the night trying to rob him ?
4 intruders. Armed at that.
 
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With the robbery being targeted I suspect there are parts that both the defense and police are hiding.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn some shady underworld stuff going on led to the robbery.
 
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A guy named Ali getting charged with murder for protecting his home? Never thought I'd see the day.
 

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I think we're missing some key details into the incident. It does sound a little outrageous that he is being charged with second degree murder. It is my understanding (and I'm not 100% sure about this) that under our laws, you have a duty to retreat from violence and that we don't have a so-called Castle Law like in the US. So, this means the expectation is to run away if you can.

Now, the fact that he had a firearm and killed the intruder....who may have had a firearms....is bizarre. Especially since he had a legal and registered gun...But, the other question here...and i don't mean to blame the victim of a home invasion....but why was this house targeted? Is this Ali Mian doing illegal shit, like selling drugs or guns? Is he known to police?

This story reminds me of something that happened in Lethbridge (I think) about a decade ago. Someone tried to break into a home, the owner scared them away, and took a shot at them with a rifle as they were running away. Didn't hit them. However, he was outraged that he was being charged for a firearms violation. Again, under Canadian law, you don't have the right to kill people when they are not threatening you or someone else....
 

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I think we're missing some key details into the incident. It does sound a little outrageous that he is being charged with second degree murder. It is my understanding (and I'm not 100% sure about this) that under our laws, you have a duty to retreat from violence and that we don't have a so-called Castle Law like in the US. So, this means the expectation is to run away if you can.

Now, the fact that he had a firearm and killed the intruder....who may have had a firearms....is bizarre. Especially since he had a legal and registered gun...But, the other question here...and i don't mean to blame the victim of a home invasion....but why was this house targeted? Is this Ali Mian doing illegal shit, like selling drugs or guns? Is he known to police?

This story reminds me of something that happened in Lethbridge (I think) about a decade ago. Someone tried to break into a home, the owner scared them away, and took a shot at them with a rifle as they were running away. Didn't hit them. However, he was outraged that he was being charged for a firearms violation. Again, under Canadian law, you don't have the right to kill people when they are not threatening you or someone else....
In a sane world it wouldn't matter why his mother's house was targeted. When 4 men break into your home at 5am, and you are a legal gun owner, you should have every right to shoot and kill them all while they're inside your home. That would discourage further home invasions. The mere fact of intruders breaking into your home is a threat to your health and safety. One man can be deadly with his bare hands... four of them is a recipe for disaster.

Requiring a victim to ascertain whether the culprits are armed and intend to inflict injury/death or just popped in to say hello is absolutely inappropriate.

But that is how our legislators want it.

Today we call them woke. In the past we called them bleeding hearts. Regardless of their title, they've made us all dumber.
 

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I think we're missing some key details into the incident. It does sound a little outrageous that he is being charged with second degree murder. It is my understanding (and I'm not 100% sure about this) that under our laws, you have a duty to retreat from violence and that we don't have a so-called Castle Law like in the US. So, this means the expectation is to run away if you can.

Now, the fact that he had a firearm and killed the intruder....who may have had a firearms....is bizarre. Especially since he had a legal and registered gun...But, the other question here...and i don't mean to blame the victim of a home invasion....but why was this house targeted? Is this Ali Mian doing illegal shit, like selling drugs or guns? Is he known to police?

This story reminds me of something that happened in Lethbridge (I think) about a decade ago. Someone tried to break into a home, the owner scared them away, and took a shot at them with a rifle as they were running away. Didn't hit them. However, he was outraged that he was being charged for a firearms violation. Again, under Canadian law, you don't have the right to kill people when they are not threatening you or someone else....
You can't shoot people when they're running away. Anywhere.
 
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In a sane world it wouldn't matter why his mother's house was targeted. When 4 men break into your home at 5am, and you are a legal gun owner, you should have every right to shoot and kill them all while they're inside your home. That would discourage further home invasions. The mere fact of intruders breaking into your home is a threat to your health and safety. One man can be deadly with his bare hands... four of them is a recipe for disaster.

Requiring a victim to ascertain whether the culprits are armed and intend to inflict injury/death or just popped in to say hello is absolutely inappropriate.

But that is how our legislators want it.

Today we call them woke. In the past we called them bleeding hearts. Regardless of their title, they've made us all dumber.
Assuming that there are no significant changes to the story it is disappointing that all 4 who broke in with evil intentions were not shot dead on the spot. It would be good riddance. It would take a very woke crown attorney to allow charges to be laid under these circumstances - another sickening case of EXTREME WOKE !!
 

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In a sane world it wouldn't matter why his mother's house was targeted. When 4 men break into your home at 5am, and you are a legal gun owner, you should have every right to shoot and kill them all while they're inside your home. That would discourage further home invasions. The mere fact of intruders breaking into your home is a threat to your health and safety. One man can be deadly with his bare hands... four of them is a recipe for disaster.

Requiring a victim to ascertain whether the culprits are armed and intend to inflict injury/death or just popped in to say hello is absolutely inappropriate.

But that is how our legislators want it.

Today we call them woke. In the past we called them bleeding hearts. Regardless of their title, they've made us all dumber.
The article also states that one of the intruders was attacking his mother when he shot.
 
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The victim shot the intruder only once. There was no intention to shoot and kill. This sounds more like a manslaughter charge rather than a second degree murder. I remember the Saskatchewan girl who accidentally killed another girl at a bar. Charged 2nd degree initially but then it was later reduced to manslaughter as it was an accidental. No intention to kill.
There should be no charges laid as it seems to be defence of a third party.
 

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The victim shot the intruder only once. There was no intention to shoot and kill. This sounds more like a manslaughter charge rather than a second degree murder. I remember the Saskatchewan girl who accidentally killed another girl at a bar. Charged 2nd degree initially but then it was later reduced to manslaughter as it was an accidental. No intention to kill.
Manslaughter for what. For not letting the intruders hurt his mother or to shoot first or pistol whip him. This is a good reason why our society is getting more lawless almost by the day. I am glad that the invader was killed and not injured - he would be out on bail in a day to do more harm. Good riddance to him. The fact that the intruder [ s ] had a weapon in his possession says everything.
 
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I hope dude get his case tossed or at least a lesser conviction, and if it does happen you will see more and more people legally own guns to protect themselves at home.
 

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I hope dude get his case tossed or at least a lesser conviction, and if it does happen you will see more and more people legally own guns to protect themselves at home.
Handguns can no longer be bought legally in Canada. It's just a matter of time before Trudeau & gang ban shotguns and rifles for legal purchase too.

It works well in the USA as Mr. Ilinovich explains.

 
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