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Thanks to the advice and tips shared by various forum members here, I was able to experience Thailand & Japan (without falling into any traps or scams). Here is a (non-comprehensive) guide to help point others in the right direction if they decide to visit Thailand or Japan.

Thailand
There are a few ways to find a SW in Thailand:
- Bar Girl*
- Street/Beach Walkers
- Soapy Massages*
- ThaiFriendly*
- Websites (e.g. MassageRepublic, Fiwfans, etc.)

I only visited Bangkok, and I only experienced the above things with a star. I found Soapy Massages the most dependable way to hook up. If you contact them on Line, they will show you the menu and their roster beforehand. You can also arrive at the establishment and ask to see current ladies available. I highly recommend BkkVice as they had the best looking roster imo, new/clean rooms with GTA-inspired decor. 90m (2 shots) is about 3500 baht ($130 CAD), and if you go for nuru it is 4500 baht ($167 CAD). You can google maps 'Soapy Massage' to find the establishments, and they are mostly located near Phrom Phong station. The next experience I wanted to talk about are bar girls. Having down my research, I know these experiences can be typically scams/rip-offs, but I wanted to experience something Thailand is known for. You can go to Nana Plaza to find a cluster of bars. Sometimes if the girls are hanging outside the bars, you can talk to them and ask them how much it is to take them to a hotel. Otherwise, you can have a drink inside these bars, buy drinks for the girls, and inquire about pricing. If you leave with a girl, you will need to pay a bar fine, and also pay whatever the girl is asking for the deed. I was captivated by a girl who was half thai/half japanese and looked like a JAV star. I ended up paying 5000 baht ($185 CAD) for 1 hour (ST, aka Short Time). She didn't want to come back to my hotel and opted to use one of their own hotels across the street (and I'd soon end up why). Bar girls typically want to extract money from you as quickly as possible, so they can return to the bar and make more money. The hotel was more like a run-down motel. The turnover rate is high, and the staff is constantly cleaning the rooms for the next customers. The service wasn't much better, as the girl was restrictive, put minimal effort and tried to get me to finish as quickly as possible. Still, I got to satiate my curiosity. Finally, I want to talk about ThaiFriendly, a quasi-dating app. Even though it's intended for dating, I'd say 50%+ of the users are Freelancers (indy's). You set up an account, browse profiles and send inquiries. Typically if you ask a girl if they are a freelancer, they will tell you straight up. You can then negotiate prices and move the conversation over to LINE. Prices are all over the place, and sometimes the girls are so busy they forget to respond. Due to time restrictions, I didn't manage to set up any meetings. I think it has a pretty high success rate, and some of the girls on there are really attractive. Unless you are dating someone, don't expect a lot (or any) emotional connection. I was advised to read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather before going to Thailand, and I think this is great advice, especially for first-timers.

Other Notes:
- Make sure you set up Line(WeChat/Telegram), as many services & indy's use this to communicate
- Read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather before you go to Thailand
- King Epic has a lot of indepth content about punting in Thailand
- Everybody I met was of legal age

Japan
FS (Full Sex) is illegal in Japan, but clever establishments have found ways around this. Here are a few ways to find SW in Japan:
- Soaplands*
- Health Delivery Service*
- Blowjob Bars
- Streetwalkers
- Redlight District
- Websites (e.g. MassageRepublic)

Overall, I'd have to say paying for sex in Japan is expensive - you're better doing this elsewhere like Thailand. Not to mention, many places don't accept foreigners (regardless if you are white or a POC), which means you need to search for gaijin-friendly services and providers. Health Delivery Services are like outcalls and the ladies do everything up to, but excluding FS. 120min (2 shots) is around 44,000 yen($395 CAD). They'll wash you, massage you, edge you and then blow you until you pop. The quality of girls at HDS are typically better than Soaplands dollar for dollar. The establishments I've been recommended include THC (Tokyo Hentai Club) and ManaTokyo. I tried a 2 hour service with the girl feature in the video on the ManaTokyo website. I was planning to skip Soaplands, but figured they were too iconic to not try. It's pretty much a nuru massage, if you've tried one in Canada. TAG (Tokyo Adult Guide) and CityHeaven are great resources to find out about Soaplands and see profiles & reviews on their ladies. I read some reviews on TAG and booked a 2hour session (2 shots) with a gaijin-friendly lady at Club39. The cost was 56000 yen ($502 CAD). You can pay with credit card, but they add a 20% surcharge. The lady will ask how much time you want for mat play and bed play. They'll also serve you a couple drinks and do pick-up/drop-up from the local station. Soapland is one of the surefire ways to get FS if that's what you're looking for. Finally, I want to mention something I didn't partake in, but perused. If you are in Osaka, there's a famous RDL called Tobita Shinchi. It is heaven on earth. Basically it's crammed with little shops, where the ladies are in full-display on a platform. Most of them are 9s and 10s and look like they could star in JAV movies (and I wouldn't be surprised if some did). They'll smile and wave at you at you as pass by in a very cute/sexy manner and ask "onii-san" to come visit. They are also gaijin-friendly. What's the catch? 1) They are expensive: 16000 yen ($144 CAD) for 20 mins to 41000 yen ($368 CAD) for 1 hour. Now you may say this is comparable to Canada prices, especially if you are getting quality... 2) It's typically 1-shot, CBJ and I've heard the ladies don't put much effort into it. Their goal is to get you in and out. I was tempted to try it, but ending up abstaining, as I was planning to save my funds for fun in Tokyo.

Other Notes:
- Use TokyoAdultGuide to get intel such as reviews and gaijin-friendly establishments

Conclusion
As mentioned before, the above was based on my experiences and not a comprehensive guide. However, hopefully it serves as a quick start guide to those new to these scenes.

For those curious, here are some of the ladies I met:
- https://manatokyo.com/top.php
- https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1311/A131101/club39/girlid-44538981/
- Attached photo that is publicly available from https://bkkvice.com/masseuses/
 

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did you get FS at soupland? I am guessing all the outcalls to hotel is just HJ or BJ?
 

arasah87

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did you get FS at soupland? I am guessing all the outcalls to hotel is just HJ or BJ?
Yes, the soapland did include FS. Unless you've found an independent via MassageRepublic, Twitter or streetwalker, any service that sends a girl to your preferred location will typically be HJ or BJ only. However, sometimes they will upsell you intercrual or anal sex, which is legal in Japan. I've heard some clients can ask the lady if they can pay for additional services like FS, but should be done so respectfully.
 
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Yes, the soapland did include FS. Unless you've found an independent via MassageRepublic, Twitter or streetwalker, any service that sends a girl to your preferred location will typically be HJ or BJ only. However, sometimes they will upsell you intercrual or anal sex, which is legal in Japan. I've heard some clients can ask the lady if they can pay for additional services like FS, but should be done so respectfully.
I have heard the ones that provide Anal for extra $ are likely to go with FS...
 

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I have heard the ones that provide Anal for extra $ are likely to go with FS...
I think it depends. I went to kabukicho in March 2023, managed to get 1 hr, 2 shots with a 22 year old japanese provider for 20,000 yen, or roughly 200 cad. I did it by abstaining from accepting drinks from touts, but instead i was blunt about what i wanted and my budget.

It was in an underground brothel but the girls service was everything I ever wanted. Might have helped that i did duolingo on the toilet for 2 years so my comprehension is pretty good.

However i must agree Thailand is just better bang for your buck. Just be doubly sure about safety. Nana plaza if you're in bkk, or just anywhere in pattaya.
 
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I think it depends. I went to kabukicho in March 2023, managed to get 1 hr, 2 shots with a 22 year old japanese provider for 20,000 yen, or roughly 200 cad. I did it by abstaining from accepting drinks from touts, but instead i was blunt about what i wanted and my budget.

It was in an underground brother but the girls service was everything I ever wanted. Might have helped that i did duolingo on the toilet for 2 years so my comprehension is pretty good.

However i must agree Thailand is just better bang for your buck. Just be doubly sure about safety. Nana plaza if you're in bkk, or just anywhere in pattaya.
Did you pick up from a bar in Japan?
 

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Did you pick up from a bar in Japan?
Nope, I just talked to a tout on the street. I was completely sober and was honest about what I was looking for. Do not under any circumstances go this route under the influence, and do not follow them to any bar or accept their free drinks. The Yakuza are real, they are pulling the touts strings, and they will take advantage of you.

Look up tout horror stories.
 

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Nope, I just talked to a tout on the street. I was completely sober and was honest about what I was looking for. Do not under any circumstances go this route under the influence, and do not follow them to any bar or accept their free drinks. The Yakuza are real, they are pulling the touts strings, and they will take advantage of you.

Look up tout horror stories.
Yikes! Glad you ended up okay and also found exactly what you're looking for :)
 
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i used tokyo hentai club in japan. opted for outcall session. in retrospect i should have done incall instead because the girl they sent to my hotel wasn't exactly what i was looking for, which i guess is the risk we all take when just choosing someone from a website full of edited photos. it was still a good time though.

but yes service there is generally supposed to be non-FS. which is fine with me cause i just wanted to get sucked off lol.

i walked through the osaka red light district but didnt go to any of them because at the time i wasnt sure exactly how it worked and didnt want to get fucked over. there were some genuine hot lookers waiting in those huts though. damn. its funny how they're organized. its like one street is all of these hot 20 somethings. then the next its 30 year olds. then its older milfs on another street. genuinely interesting even just to walk through the area.
 

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Thanks to the advice and tips shared by various forum members here, I was able to experience Thailand & Japan (without falling into any traps or scams). Here is a (non-comprehensive) guide to help point others in the right direction if they decide to visit Thailand or Japan.

Thailand
There are a few ways to find a SW in Thailand:
- Bar Girl*
- Street/Beach Walkers
- Soapy Massages*
- ThaiFriendly*
- Websites (e.g. MassageRepublic, Fiwfans, etc.)

I only visited Bangkok, and I only experienced the above things with a star. I found Soapy Massages the most dependable way to hook up. If you contact them on Line, they will show you the menu and their roster beforehand. You can also arrive at the establishment and ask to see current ladies available. I highly recommend BkkVice as they had the best looking roster imo, new/clean rooms with GTA-inspired decor. 90m (2 shots) is about 3500 baht ($130 CAD), and if you go for nuru it is 4500 baht ($167 CAD). You can google maps 'Soapy Massage' to find the establishments, and they are mostly located near Phrom Phong station. The next experience I wanted to talk about are bar girls. Having down my research, I know these experiences can be typically scams/rip-offs, but I wanted to experience something Thailand is known for. You can go to Nana Plaza to find a cluster of bars. Sometimes if the girls are hanging outside the bars, you can talk to them and ask them how much it is to take them to a hotel. Otherwise, you can have a drink inside these bars, buy drinks for the girls, and inquire about pricing. If you leave with a girl, you will need to pay a bar fine, and also pay whatever the girl is asking for the deed. I was captivated by a girl who was half thai/half japanese and looked like a JAV star. I ended up paying 5000 baht ($185 CAD) for 1 hour (ST, aka Short Time). She didn't want to come back to my hotel and opted to use one of their own hotels across the street (and I'd soon end up why). Bar girls typically want to extract money from you as quickly as possible, so they can return to the bar and make more money. The hotel was more like a run-down motel. The turnover rate is high, and the staff is constantly cleaning the rooms for the next customers. The service wasn't much better, as the girl was restrictive, put minimal effort and tried to get me to finish as quickly as possible. Still, I got to satiate my curiosity. Finally, I want to talk about ThaiFriendly, a quasi-dating app. Even though it's intended for dating, I'd say 50%+ of the users are Freelancers (indy's). You set up an account, browse profiles and send inquiries. Typically if you ask a girl if they are a freelancer, they will tell you straight up. You can then negotiate prices and move the conversation over to LINE. Prices are all over the place, and sometimes the girls are so busy they forget to respond. Due to time restrictions, I didn't manage to set up any meetings. I think it has a pretty high success rate, and some of the girls on there are really attractive. Unless you are dating someone, don't expect a lot (or any) emotional connection. I was advised to read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather before going to Thailand, and I think this is great advice, especially for first-timers.

Other Notes:
- Make sure you set up Line(WeChat/Telegram), as many services & indy's use this to communicate
- Read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather before you go to Thailand
- King Epic has a lot of indepth content about punting in Thailand
- Everybody I met was of legal age

Japan
FS (Full Sex) is illegal in Japan, but clever establishments have found ways around this. Here are a few ways to find SW in Japan:
- Soaplands*
- Health Delivery Service*
- Blowjob Bars
- Streetwalkers
- Redlight District
- Websites (e.g. MassageRepublic)

Overall, I'd have to say paying for sex in Japan is expensive - you're better doing this elsewhere like Thailand. Not to mention, many places don't accept foreigners (regardless if you are white or a POC), which means you need to search for gaijin-friendly services and providers. Health Delivery Services are like outcalls and the ladies do everything up to, but excluding FS. 120min (2 shots) is around 44,000 yen($395 CAD). They'll wash you, massage you, edge you and then blow you until you pop. The quality of girls at HDS are typically better than Soaplands dollar for dollar. The establishments I've been recommended include THC (Tokyo Hentai Club) and ManaTokyo. I tried a 2 hour service with the girl feature in the video on the ManaTokyo website. I was planning to skip Soaplands, but figured they were too iconic to not try. It's pretty much a nuru massage, if you've tried one in Canada. TAG (Tokyo Adult Guide) and CityHeaven are great resources to find out about Soaplands and see profiles & reviews on their ladies. I read some reviews on TAG and booked a 2hour session (2 shots) with a gaijin-friendly lady at Club39. The cost was 56000 yen ($502 CAD). You can pay with credit card, but they add a 20% surcharge. The lady will ask how much time you want for mat play and bed play. They'll also serve you a couple drinks and do pick-up/drop-up from the local station. Soapland is one of the surefire ways to get FS if that's what you're looking for. Finally, I want to mention something I didn't partake in, but perused. If you are in Osaka, there's a famous RDL called Tobita Shinchi. It is heaven on earth. Basically it's crammed with little shops, where the ladies are in full-display on a platform. Most of them are 9s and 10s and look like they could star in JAV movies (and I wouldn't be surprised if some did). They'll smile and wave at you at you as pass by in a very cute/sexy manner and ask "onii-san" to come visit. They are also gaijin-friendly. What's the catch? 1) They are expensive: 16000 yen ($144 CAD) for 20 mins to 41000 yen ($368 CAD) for 1 hour. Now you may say this is comparable to Canada prices, especially if you are getting quality... 2) It's typically 1-shot, CBJ and I've heard the ladies don't put much effort into it. Their goal is to get you in and out. I was tempted to try it, but ending up abstaining, as I was planning to save my funds for fun in Tokyo.

Other Notes:
- Use TokyoAdultGuide to get intel such as reviews and gaijin-friendly establishments

Conclusion
As mentioned before, the above was based on my experiences and not a comprehensive guide. However, hopefully it serves as a quick start guide to those new to these scenes.

For those curious, here are some of the ladies I met:
- https://manatokyo.com/top.php
- https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1311/A131101/club39/girlid-44538981/
- Attached photo that is publicly available from https://bkkvice.com/masseuses/
GTA style place, would you say they are fairly safe (in terms of like testing their talent for STIs)? And was it FS, just wanted to make sure I know what they offer, and do you know if anal is on the table if it is fs?
 
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This is great information - thanks for the information gents.
 

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GTA style place, would you say they are fairly safe (in terms of like testing their talent for STIs)? And was it FS, just wanted to make sure I know what they offer, and do you know if anal is on the table if it is fs?
For girls that work in the shops they get tested monthly. (at least from my knowledge for Soapland they do). Japanese made it very distinct that certain "type" of services do and do not include FS. Most outcall called "delivery health" does not provide FS, although it does come down to the actual provider and how you negotiate (money always talks, just depends on. how much and whether it's worth it).

I have done "delivery health", and choose only girls that provide "Anal Fuck" services.. those are more inclined to provide FS... if not you will get greek anyway.
if you want sure bet of FS, then Soapland is the way to go. FS is always included along with the Nuru massage... but not all shops accept foreigners.. you have to try your luck. Lately most shops have closed their doors to foreigners, you will really have to hunt for ones that do.
 

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For girls that work in the shops they get tested monthly. (at least from my knowledge for Soapland they do). Japanese made it very distinct that certain "type" of services do and do not include FS. Most outcall called "delivery health" does not provide FS, although it does come down to the actual provider and how you negotiate (money always talks, just depends on. how much and whether it's worth it).

I have done "delivery health", and choose only girls that provide "Anal Fuck" services.. those are more inclined to provide FS... if not you will get greek anyway.
if you want sure bet of FS, then Soapland is the way to go. FS is always included along with the Nuru massage... but not all shops accept foreigners.. you have to try your luck. Lately most shops have closed their doors to foreigners, you will really have to hunt for ones that do.
Something about the law-abiding Japanese places cracks me up. In North America, every escort offers CFS vaginal. And the first questions after a new review is does she do BBBJTCIM and covered anal sex.

For Japan, in these law-abiding places, she does covered anal sex and BBBJTCIM as standard, and everyone asks does she do CFS vaginal?

I guess we always want them to do what they don’t advertise, for some reason.
 

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Something about the law-abiding Japanese places cracks me up. In North America, every escort offers CFS vaginal. And the first questions after a new review is does she do BBBJTCIM and covered anal sex.

For Japan, in these law-abiding places, she does covered anal sex and BBBJTCIM as standard, and everyone asks does she do CFS vaginal?

I guess we always want them to do what they don’t advertise, for some reason.
Not standard.. mostly available as paid option.. but yes, I agree, we just want what we can't have easily... Hahhah
 
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