Monthly allowances or PPV?
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recently (Tyra @HPL) and we were discussing the pros and cons of unlimited visits in a month vs paying for each visit. It would be costly, 2-5 grand a month, and a bit embarrassing He 'I'm coming over' She 'Could you make it this afternoon'.
If you think your in this relationship you expect exclusivicity but you may be surprised if the lady is otherwise engaged.
If you think your in this relationship you expect exclusivicity but you may be surprised if the lady is otherwise engaged.
Actually it's not quite like that. I have experience with these.
If he's the type to prefer longer sessions (clock-free dates not including overnight, usually a 5-6 hour thing), then he gets a couple of those a month. 2 or 3 which adds up to what my monthly arrangement fee is = $6000/month.
If he's the type to prefer shorter arrangements, 1-3 hours, then obviously he is free to see me up to a certain point that doesn't exceed the monthly fee by a great deal. I wouldn't nitpick an hour or two.
Usually gentlemen who prefer these types of arrangements aren't looking to call you up every day and demand that you are available on a whim. It is still treated like a regular session, with respect to both parties' availability. Also expectation with regards to other partners definitely varies. With my experience, I've found that they preferred 1 or 2 multi hour sessions a week and one or 2 dates that month, usually to a work party or some sporting event.
What people should remember is that with monthly arrangements, respect is still a very important factor. It is more likely to succeed with people you have great chemistry and history with.
The pros? Revenue with a regular client you hopefully enjoy being with. Absolutely won't work any other way. You can't pretend for that long...at least I don't believe so.
Cons? If you aren't used to what this type of thing demands, it can be hard.
A girl who is used to shorter sessions may decide it's not for her versus one who prefers longer ones and enjoys her time.
As well as one who prefers a gift every time versus one who doesn't mind a lump sum at the end of the month. The latter SP will usually succeed with these arrangements.
Then there is the issue of someone who wants you to be exclusive only to him.
If that comes into play, you have to factor in your fees depending on how much you generate monthly or quarterly and how much you expect to lose if you become strictly exclusive. Factoring how long this thing will potentially last, a month or 4 or 6, etc, may end up to be more costly than a normal monthly one (some months/quarters tend to be more lucrative than others).
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would anyone actually make a monthly agreement if said agreement only allows for X number of sessions at the going rate so as not to exceed the monthly fee? That's as bad as a gym membership...you pay whether you take advantage of the amenities or not. Actually it's worse; at least you have unlimited access for the month at a gym. It makes more sense just to book as needed if there's a cap on the number of sessions.
I always thought a monthly arrangement was good for two things on the client's side: exclusivity (if that's an option) and value (buying individual sessions would cost more in the long-haul). On the escort's side, she makes guaranteed income and can focus on one likeable client.
I had such an arrangement about 7 years ago. It lasted nearly 3 years. I paid a monthly fee, at the beginning of the month. It was an amount we were both comfortable with. Unlike what Chloe suggests, there was no counting of hours "up to the monthly fee". That somehow defeats the whole idea of paying a flat monthly fee. Honestly, if the SP had wanted to work that way, I would have ended it right away. There were weeks where we saw each other a number of times and others where we didn't see each other at all. I never felt like she wanted to cut a visit short because we were getting close to the hourly limit..since we never had discussed any "hourly" limits. She was comfortable with the amount we agreed to and not having to worry about being "cutoff" due to an hours per month limit made it more natural. She also traveled with me a number of times on business trips to the US and a few cities in Canada. There was never any extra "hours" costs on business trips although I would cover her travel costs . We actually got along great and always had a great time even though she was much younger than I was. I think the connection we had with the fact we were very clear at the start about the amount to be paid, made it easy. If an SP is going to start nitpicking on the hours, most gentleman would walk away I'm fairly sure. I know I would have. Although our arrangement ended years ago due to her life commitments, we are still in touch to this day. Every few months, we check how the other is doing.
I don't think it defeats the purpose.
Then again what works for me, doesn't work for everyone.
Point being, my way works for me.
Also guys, I think you're kind of missing the point of my post.
I never said that I nitpicked the certain hours, I merely stated what I had experience with. Being that they usually ended up being an x amount of times per week and an x amount of dates a month.
I got technical but you shouldn't assume there is any negative connotation with that.
Calculations that go on in my head, aren't things I would lay out in a paper for a client.
It doesn't work that way and quite frankly a little too robotic and impersonal.
The hours and times I listed are my own personal experiences and I use precedent to determine fees based on them.
Please don't eat me alive for choosing to be honest about what goes on in my head and opening up about the experiences I've had.
Still makes no sense, but I can easily why it works for you. I guess my point is, what if the gentleman doesn't see you much in a month, to much less than the "hourly" fee would come to, would his monthly fee go down? I'm guessing no...because he's paying a monthly fee. With that kind of an arrangement, he might as well just pay per session and when he does, you lose your guaranteed income .
Anyway...I made my point. I'm moving on.
If the gentleman sees me less, then he wouldn't be paying a monthly fee.
If he is, that is his prerogative. It hasn't happened to me, so if it does, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
I wouldn't advise it. I wouldn't see a point to that..
Why would a person, financially stable enough to afford $6000/month, drop that to see me once or twice when I have other fees for that? If he's smart enough to maintain that tax bracket, he should be smart enough to figure out when he's not getting a great deal on something.
I don't see that happening in a normal circumstance.
I'd also assume that most gentlemen wouldn't take this approach if they didn't see the girl as much as they wished they could.
Then again, this is all circumstantial, so it really depends if that ever happens.
If it did, exceptions to the rule can be made.
*Also, this isn't my only source of income so it wouldn't be a major upset versus someone relying solely on a monthly arrangement.
You might want to stipulate that on your website, cause right now it reads "Unlimited Visits- $6000.00 per month" This not what your saying in the above post.
If a person is interested in the monthly arrangement, then they would contact me for info regarding that type of arrangement and what it entails. I list that on my contact page.
I don't like to give extensive detail pertaining to a meeting on my website, because not every arrangement is the same. I also prefer to keep things on my website as simple as possible. Any questions and the gentleman is free to contact me.
(Maybe I should switch the unlimited to just monthly arrangement though, not to confuse any Terbites.
It has never been an issue elsewhere but I can see how some may get confused.)
If what I relay to him works for him, great. If it doesn't, that is his decision to make, based on the info I give him.
Those specific time details are for private correspondence...at least for me? To tailor to their personal needs.
Confuse Terbites? Seriously? I think you must be the one that's confused. How else can anyone interpret "unlimited visits = $6000' other than ...it means unlimited. If you meant, visits up to the hourly value of $6,000...why not say that. To me, that statement of unlimited visits is simply false advertising but I guess if you said the truth, there would be no man in his right mind taking you up on it . I don't get why any man would. The way you explain it, it simply equates to seeing you at your hourly rate up to $6,000 worth and if he reaches it, I guess you cut him off and if doesn't, you give him money back? Too funny. Yea right. :eyebrows: So I just don't get the $6,000 a month.
Horngry's explanation of his arrangement certainly is more credible. . Chloe, I just think you're making it up as you go along to get attention, to get your ad up. That's how it looks to me anyway. :frusty:
It is one thing to state your opinion but something completely different to call bullshit on experiences that you yourself haven't gone through.
You are free to disbelieve, but to blatantly call out a cry for attention? No sorry, I have ads to generate interest on a separate page. I'm on this thread for the discussion.
Furthermore, I don't think there was a poll whether to agree or disagree with what opinion sounds more credible. I write based on the experiences I've had. His arrangement was his arrangement. You're calling bullshit on separate experiences? I'm sorry, I fail to see the logic in that.
You may interpret my rates anyway you wish, doesn't mean your interpretation is correct. Guesses are just that. Cutting up my rates into increments and assuming the way I do things? I'm not even going to touch on that. You may assume what you wish.
My experiences shared between my clients are things that maybe you yourself don't see happening for your own personal reasons, but you can't speak for others. Especially not for the men I have been fortunate enough to meet.
Furthermore, if my experiences are so difficult to believe, then keep it moving. But don't call me out like that please. Highly unnecessary.
I don't understand why it's so difficult to believe that some gentlemen, most of which aren't even from Toronto, command these engagements with ease.
It's a different world out there past Toronto and this city's review board's majority opinion and experiences. I would even go as far as saying Toronto isn't the place where monthly arrangements particularly thrive in abundance. At least for me that is a fact.
Toronto tailors to a different set of expectations for this industry, more often than not tends to be a sharp contrast elsewhere. It is quite different in other areas of the world.
Take a trip to Cannes during the Cannes Film Festival. Or Abu Dhabi in the spring or even Monaco in the summer. Ibiza. Miami. Heck, even New York City any given weekend. You'll change your view real quick.
Some guys love attention and or to post critical attacks. It's no wonder there are very few industry girls posting on TERB.
I can't help but think any client who pays a monthly fee of 6k for limited (not unlimited) sex is rather dim witted and lazy or unfortunate in the looks department.
If you used a service - you could have 20hrs of sex at 300/h and great variety - playing a numbers game. If you like one of the many there are better arrangements to be had.
As they say there's a sucker born every minute.
If you used a service - you could have 20hrs of sex at 300/h and great variety - playing a numbers game. If you like one of the many there are better arrangements to be had.
As they say there's a sucker born every minute.
Cons - I'm seeing 4 ladies on a regular basis and once in awhile, i go out and venture, like I did this week and found another gem. I do like variety and this type of arrangement would sort of defeat that purpose.
There has to be incentive for SP as well as client.Instead of a bus pass approach, maybe a book of bus tickets would be better.
Example :
The SP usually offers $300 per hour sessions and also offers a discounted books of tickets at a discounted price. $1000 for five one hour sessions. The client is restricted to 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM access so that the SP can use her less popular hours more efficiently. The client gets a discount on price. Of course the client can use the hours consecutively or pay the difference for regular sessions.
Example :
The SP usually offers $300 per hour sessions and also offers a discounted books of tickets at a discounted price. $1000 for five one hour sessions. The client is restricted to 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM access so that the SP can use her less popular hours more efficiently. The client gets a discount on price. Of course the client can use the hours consecutively or pay the difference for regular sessions.
