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Intrinsic

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A very close family friend is morbidly obese and she's landed in the hospital last week, due to a heart attack. Now she's still there, but the family and I are trying to get things together for her release.

What we're looking to do is; get her a recliner chair that can help her get up on her feet, an air cushion bed (probably to rent for a couple of weeks), as well as possibly putting her into a rehab centre after the hospital to help get her back on her feet and in therapy.

And/or if anyone knows of any stores for this type of stuff, it'd be appreciated.
Thanks
 

night ride

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Shoppers Home Health Care. Bought a S.A.D. lamp there and had a look around - the place looks like they have or can get you that sort of thing. Good luck.
 

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Talk with the hospital's social worker department and have them arrange a home visit from the area CCAC. It may be necessary to get in Home Care to provide personal services such as assistance with bathing. Shoppers both sells and rents the equipment you are looking for. Most importantly be sure she is not released unless you are completely certain the friend is capable of taking care of the day to day things she needs to do on her own. Hospitals these days are rushed to discharge heart and stroke patients as soon as they can. Good luck.
 

Intrinsic

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Talk with the hospital's social worker department and have them arrange a home visit from the area CCAC. It may be necessary to get in Home Care to provide personal services such as assistance with bathing. Shoppers both sells and rents the equipment you are looking for. Most importantly be sure she is not released unless you are completely certain the friend is capable of taking care of the day to day things she needs to do on her own. Hospitals these days are rushed to discharge heart and stroke patients as soon as they can. Good luck.

Funny you mention that because her sister and other friend feel that's exactly what they're trying to do here. Why is that? Simply because they need the beds and rooms?

Thanks for all the suggestions by the way.
 

exploration

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a friend of mine who is also very obese bought this Genesis Health Light. She says it helps heal bed sores and aches. apparently the pain from these sores really affected her on the road to recovery

good luck
 

thumper18474

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Funny you mention that because her sister and other friend feel that's exactly what they're trying to do here. Why is that? Simply because they need the beds and rooms?

Thanks for all the suggestions by the way.
There could be a few reasons why..yours is definately a possibility...
another reason is the more they do for her..the more dependant she will be...she needs to be independant so the quicker she gets into her normal routine and a familiar environment the quicker she will feel that things are progressing.....doing too much can be as harmful as doing too little.....most patients will be pushed to get back the normalcy in their lives....TOUGH LOVE...so to speak...
I had major back surgery when I was 18...and they had me up and walking in 4 days....and that was in the 70's with a 6 inch incision
 

Madeline Rhodes

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1. Addressing her weight issues will be her Doctors responsibility so those offering addiction advice, or snide comments need to can it. Unless you are the medical team in charge of her care then you shouldn't be offering an opinion. Period.

2. Addressing the furniture issue... Without knowing the persons actual weight I can't really point you in the correct direction. The reason for this is that there are various ranges of capacity. Please do not post it openly if you know the number. There are various range of morbidly obese. Height plays a very large role in how they are perceived according to a BMI chart as well so posting the BMI is not helpful either.

That said for the recliner try Lift Chair. Their capacity is up to 700lbs. http://www.liftchair.com/Comforter_700lb_PR-502.htm
For outdoor chairs Canadian tire sells chairs that are up to 400 lbs or so capacity in folding chair style so a portable chair may be an option when going to other places.
This is an option for a take along seat and is rated up to 700 lbs. http://www.walkstool.com/

3. Contacting CCAC is an excellent option. They offer everything from nursing support, to personal support workers for bathing, and even cleaning ones home. The family needs to find out if the Dr's will be putting in an order, and if not make the call them self.

Maddie

P.S. Unless you have live the very hard struggle that is morbid obesity have some compassion. It isn't too much to ask. People in that situation know they are un trouble and have probably tried many things along the way and been made to feel like a failure... Even though the person in question will never read this thread. I can assure you that there are other members of this forum who have these struggles and will so have a heart.
 

Petzel

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Morbid obesity is seen as a psychiatric eating disorder and therefore requires psycho-therapy. The hospital should be able to connect her to those agencies/facilities.
 

Twister

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1. Addressing her weight issues will be her Doctors responsibility so those offering addiction advice, or snide comments need to can it. Unless you are the medical team in charge of her care then you shouldn't be offering an opinion. Period.
Many times doctors unless its a physical issue such as hormones, thyroid and other physical issue, don't deal with food addiction which is a big problem. People are sent sent to WW, Bernsteins etc but just continue to have the same problem. My comments were just ammunition for the OP to think about and were positive, he can take them or leave them and I don't see him complaining about them. So why don't you can it. Period
 

Madeline Rhodes

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Morbid obesity is seen as a psychiatric eating disorder and therefore requires psycho-therapy. The hospital should be able to connect her to those agencies/facilities.
I wasn't aware that the DSM-IV now lists Morbid Obesity as a "psychiatric eating disorder".

The only two eating disorders that really come to mind are:
Binge Eating Disorder
Night Eating Syndrome

If you are referring to the commonly thrown about terminology of "food addiction" there is a fair amount of controversy about the logistics of that particular addiction, and not all obese people would qualify as such even if it was a proper term.

http://allpsych.com/disorders/eating/index.html

Eating Disorders
Common Characteristics
[HR][/HR] Eating disorders are characterized by disturbances in eating behavior. This can mean eating too much, not eating enough, or eating in an extremely unhealthy manner (such as binging or stuffing yourself over and over). Many people argue that simple overeating should be considered a disorder, but at this time it is not in this category.
Until such time as it is entered into the DSM-V and officially released it is a highly subjective view point.

Many times doctors unless its a physical issue such as hormones, thyroid and other physical issue, don't deal with food addiction which is a big problem. People are sent sent to WW, Bernsteins etc but just continue to have the same problem. My comments were just ammunition for the OP to think about and were positive, he can take them or leave them and I don't see him complaining about them. So why don't you can it. Period
Comments intended as "ammunition" are typically seen as inflammatory. Since you chose not to "can it" please read the above information so you can bring yourself up to date on what is and is not a recognized medical diagnosis. Then please feel free to bring yourself up to date on some (though not all) of the actual resources located within the province of Ontario for those who are currently dealing with morbid obesity.

Actually most Doctors seem to be avoiding sending people to things like Bernsteins. I will say that they may recommend WW (it has the highest percentage of long term success outside of bariatric surgery), or Dr. Poon's clinic in the GTA, or Dr Freedhoff in Ottawa. There is also a medical weight loss clinic run through the Guelph hospital now which is I believe a 6 month program, and there are programs like Craving Change which are run all over the province of Ontario. There is also the Bariatric Registry now http://www.bariatricregistry.ca/ which is a centralized registry

Since you clearly know so much more than I do about the issue I encourage you to post any and all Canadian based resources you would like to share with the OP. Specifically Ontario based resources.

Heck if it was as simple as "food addiction" being the only cause then CON-RCO wouldn't exist. http://www.obesitynetwork.ca/ Considering they are Canada’s official representative in the International Association for the Study of Obesity (IASO), an umbrella organization for 52 national obesity associations, representing 56 countries... One would think it would be much more time effective to just go with your suppositions.

In fact let's just completely ignore any and all other causes outside of "food addiction".

We shall simply ignore that Morbid Obesity can occur as part of a number of other medical conditions such as:
Prader-Willi Syndrome
Bardet-Biedl Syndrome
Cohen Syndrome
MOMO Syndrome
Hypothyroidism
Cushing's Syndrome
Growth Hormone Deficiency
Lymphedema (which when primary LE can be rather all encompassing)

While we are at it let's completely ignore the number of people who struggle with weight issues due to medications they are required to take:
Steroids (prednisone)
Insulin
Certain forms of hormonal contraception.
Anticonvulsants.
Atypical Antipsychotics
Antidepressants

Wait... The medications that treat psychiatric illnesses make people gain weight? How do you think someones mental state is when they gain weight after recieving treatment for their mental state. What a rollercoaster that must be.

Clearly I am just some misinformed, inept female who truly cannot comprehend the larger picture so to speak.

Maddie
 

Twister

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Comments intended as "ammunition" are typically seen as inflammatory.

Clearly I am just some misinformed, inept female who truly cannot comprehend the larger picture so to speak.

Maddie
Clearly we speak 2 different languages, and you still don't understand why I posted the addiction part. (ammunition=information)
 

Petzel

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I wasn't aware that the DSM-IV now lists Morbid Obesity as a "psychiatric eating disorder".

The only two eating disorders that really come to mind are:
Binge Eating Disorder
Night Eating Syndrome

If you are referring to the commonly thrown about terminology of "food addiction" there is a fair amount of controversy about the logistics of that particular addiction, and not all obese people would qualify as such even if it was a proper term.

http://allpsych.com/disorders/eating/index.html



Until such time as it is entered into the DSM-V and officially released it is a highly subjective view point.



Comments intended as "ammunition" are typically seen as inflammatory. Since you chose not to "can it" please read the above information so you can bring yourself up to date on what is and is not a recognized medical diagnosis. Then please feel free to bring yourself up to date on some (though not all) of the actual resources located within the province of Ontario for those who are currently dealing with morbid obesity.

Actually most Doctors seem to be avoiding sending people to things like Bernsteins. I will say that they may recommend WW (it has the highest percentage of long term success outside of bariatric surgery), or Dr. Poon's clinic in the GTA, or Dr Freedhoff in Ottawa. There is also a medical weight loss clinic run through the Guelph hospital now which is I believe a 6 month program, and there are programs like Craving Change which are run all over the province of Ontario. There is also the Bariatric Registry now http://www.bariatricregistry.ca/ which is a centralized registry

Since you clearly know so much more than I do about the issue I encourage you to post any and all Canadian based resources you would like to share with the OP. Specifically Ontario based resources.

Heck if it was as simple as "food addiction" being the only cause then CON-RCO wouldn't exist. http://www.obesitynetwork.ca/ Considering they are Canada’s official representative in the International Association for the Study of Obesity (IASO), an umbrella organization for 52 national obesity associations, representing 56 countries... One would think it would be much more time effective to just go with your suppositions.

In fact let's just completely ignore any and all other causes outside of "food addiction".

We shall simply ignore that Morbid Obesity can occur as part of a number of other medical conditions such as:
Prader-Willi Syndrome
Bardet-Biedl Syndrome
Cohen Syndrome
MOMO Syndrome
Hypothyroidism
Cushing's Syndrome
Growth Hormone Deficiency
Lymphedema (which when primary LE can be rather all encompassing)

While we are at it let's completely ignore the number of people who struggle with weight issues due to medications they are required to take:
Steroids (prednisone)
Insulin
Certain forms of hormonal contraception.
Anticonvulsants.
Atypical Antipsychotics
Antidepressants

Wait... The medications that treat psychiatric illnesses make people gain weight? How do you think someones mental state is when they gain weight after recieving treatment for their mental state. What a rollercoaster that must be.

Clearly I am just some misinformed, inept female who truly cannot comprehend the larger picture so to speak.

Maddie
Please check the DSM 5 which was published on May 22, 2013. It now lists binge eating and food addiction as a psychiatric disorder.
 

Intrinsic

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All great links, ideas and suggestions, appreciate them all. Thanks fellas and ladies (if there were any). lol
 
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