The bottom 40% of net income earners make up less than 3% of total wealth in Canada.
You think they should be taxed more?
Mr. Trudeau Not doing So Well In Latest Poll
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You think they should be taxed more?
You think they should just be entitled to someone else's money?
You think taking more than half of someone's earned income is fair?
If you want public roads, police to protect you from poor people, public schools, health care, etc, then yes you have to pay.
If you don't like it move to Haiti, where there are no taxes and none of those services you don't want.
Otherwise, shut up and pay your fair share.
Stop being the freeloader you are.
Trudeau will soon find out Liberals voters make money from capital gains too.
Whatever happened to taxing the Retail and Grocery chains? I guess we found out they have lobbyist on both sides.
Whatever happened to taxing the Retail and Grocery chains? I guess we found out they have lobbyist on both sides.
We'll find out if taxing the rich, cheap daycare, dental and drug coverage is really that unpopular, won't we?
PeePee will cut it all.
That's a poor argument that doesn't explain what "fair share" means.
We've already proven you can't answer that question comrade.
Everyone uses roads, healthcare, etc? Why should some pay more for these than others? "Fair share" would imply everyone pays the same right?
The issue is how he can be removed.
Obviously, internal pressure and him deciding to step down is always possible.
Outside of that, there aren't a lot of mechanisms to remove him.
The NDP can decide to remove support and use non-confidence to trigger an election.
I don't particularly see that happening, just because it doesn't seem to do much for the NDP themselves.
Internally, the Liberal party rules only allow challenges to remove him after he's lost an election.
I don't know when next the party votes to change those rules, though.
40% of the population has 3% of the wealth in Canada.
How much should they pay?
As much as a billionaire?
Would you rather have service fees that kept track of how many kms you drove or walked and billed you for them?
Do you refuse to pay for roads in BC that you will never drive on?
If there is some multimillionaire who got rich by paying everyone he employs minimum wage, do you think his employees should pay the same share he does?
Are you confusing taxes with charity?
Anyone making minimum wage should thank the business owner for giving them a job. If they don't like the job or the pay, they should find another job that pays more.
I'm sure the people who accepted the job knew what it paid beforehand.
If no one wants to do the job for what they are offering in pay, the business will need to pay more to attract employees. That's how the market works.
It's funny you throw around "fair share" but can't quantify what that means. All you do is seek charity from others forcefully.
So in your version of a just world there would only be a flat tax, where everyone pays the same tax rate regardless of income?
Or would it be a place where nobody pays taxes and you pay for every service you use as you go, including roads and police?
Or would it be more like Haiti, where there is no tax at all.
In a just world, governments wouldn't extort more money than the mob from people.
In a just world, taxes wouldn't be used to pad a government's pet projects.
In a just world, "free stuff" wouldn't be used as a means to sway voters.
In a just world, people wouldn't be fooled into thinking success is a crime.
In a just world, public unions wouldn't hold the public hostage and have significant political influence.
In a just world, people wouldn't blame others who have invested in themselves as the reason for their own failures.
In a just world, the government wouldn't take more than half of someone's income regardless of how much they make.
Taxing the rich doesn't make people wealthy or build the economy stronger.
That's what Trudeau and Freeland don't get. We are not in Canada to be stuck on a welfare system. It's insulting, degrading and embarrassing.
That's what Trudeau and Freeland don't get. We are not in Canada to be stuck on a welfare system. It's insulting, degrading and embarrassing.
I'm not holding my breath waiting for the NDP either.
I think the internal and external pressure will get to him. I can't see big donors being happy with him right now and I know his poll numbers will get worse.
I don't want to be a conspiracy nut, but it looks like the powers that be are putting pressure on him. He has 2 investigations linked to his government going on right now, Bank rates are high, Gas just went through the roof, Provinces are pushing back at him, etc.
The 1% all seem to be working against him, maybe this budget was him middle finger moment.
Maybe.
Back room pressure is really the only thing I see making him leave before an election now.
If the 1% really hate him, or some specific big donor, I could see them just offering him something cushy after he leaves and he goes away for that.
It depends how much he wants to save face, I suppose, and how the whole thing is framed.
and there in lies the problem
deadmeat Singh is trying to wait it out so he gets a locked in MPs pension
as you almost point out, the NDP's priorities are determined by what is best for them rather than what is best for the country
deadmeat Singh has waited too long to pull the plug
deadmeat Singh makes a big show of criticizing the liberals , but wont take the action needed
its clear even to him that Trudeau is making a mess of it and it is clear Canadians want an election
if there is any justice his party will be also be reduced to rubble in the next election
if there were a legal way to deny him his MP pension ........ he might do what's best for the country.
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In a just world if you work full time you should be able to afford food, housing, medical care and all basic needs.
Except that right wing bank, the IMF, says Trudeau's budget ranks #1 in fiscal management.
its not quite 100 K homes for 100k new comers as many arrive as a family
Canada built 253,000 in the last 12 months so 693 per day
4 million homes in 7 years is 1,566 per day
an increased pace of 225%
not going to happen
trying to double the pace of housing will drive materials and construction labor inflation. As sure as day follows night
a direct consequence of Trudeaus housing "affordability "plan. hence he is a moron.
it also works against the Bank of Canada' efforts to fight overall inflation. more evidence he is a moron (not that more evidence was required)
Trudeau must have the most incompetent economic advisors in history or he did not consult them.
Or he just ignored economic advice ...... for want of political gain.
to be clear reducing home development regulation would increase housing starts
however a lot of the red tape is at the municipal level.
municipalities have been using development as a cash cow, some belt tightening here would help to lower new home costs
however the 'plan" is to throw money at the municipalities to milk the taxpayers cow as well as milk the buyers cow ?????
Any increased pace must be at the rate the construction industry can digest.
so, the supply side "plan" is not going to address the problem and will be inflationary as "planned"
that leaves a need to address the problem from the demand side
i.e. a memo from the PMOs office to the Minister of Immigration 'hit the brakes hard''
a memo is not inflationary
efforts to increase supply at a rational achievable pace combined with efforts to slow demand would be a real "Plan"
if executed properly more homes will be built, GDP will increase without driving inflation and at lower cost to the tax payer.
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In a just world, someone who dropped out of school and didn't invest in themselves and works full-time stocking shelves shouldn't feel like they should be entitled to what lawyers, doctors and engineers make just because they work full-time.
