Murdering beggar gets bail

[joebear]

Full payment does not have to be paid immediatly.

Premium payments represent the bail bondsman’s fee for securing your release from confinement. This fee is normally restricted by law to a certain percentage of the bail amount. For example, if bail is 10 thousand dollars then the premium fee of ten to fifteen percent would be 1 thousand or 15 hundred dollars. Depending on the charges and the duration of the t5rial, another premium payment may be required. Generally, the premium paid is only valid for one year. The remaining amount of the bail bond is covered by collateral. The premium amount is not refundable, regardless of the disposition of the charges against the accused. The collateral will be released, assuming the court has come to a decision and bail terms were satisfied. If you flee the court, or “jump bail”, the entire premium payment and collateral will be seized by the bonding agency. Paying premium payment to bond agents can save you money and allow you to manage your money instead of paying a cash bond to the court for the entire bail amount. A bail bondsman can provide additional information on premium payments.

Not true in Canada. There are no bail bondsman in Canada. In fact it is illegal, in Canada, to borrow money from someone else to post or secure your bail. It is a form of obstruct justice.

Obstructing justice

139. (1) Every one who wilfully attempts in any manner to obstruct, pervert or defeat the course of justice in a judicial proceeding,

(a) by indemnifying or agreeing to indemnify a surety, in any way and either in whole or in part, or

(b) where he is a surety, by accepting or agreeing to accept a fee or any form of indemnity whether in whole or in part from or in respect of a person who is released or is to be released from custody,

is guilty of

(c) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or

(d) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

 

[Anderson]

In true "legal" not "justice" system fashion the Toronto beggar that killed the fellow last month gets bail.

Her lawyer says she is a " good kid" from a " caring and supportive family", guess thats why she's begging on the streets in Toronto and killing people with a job.

Fry her, slowly, of course after the trial.

Let her live with that foktard mcsquinty.

I understand you more every day creampuff !

Your utopia would resemble Saudi Arabia. No trials, killing people who vandalize ( without a trial) and nuking entire regios that YOU don't approve of .

Tell me more please.

But let me ask first if you would like to live in a place where you had these rules.

No wait, don't answer -I can guess.

 

[justvisiting1]

Full payment does not have to be paid immediatly.

Premium payments represent the bail bondsman’s fee for securing your release from confinement. This fee is normally restricted by law to a certain percentage of the bail amount. For example, if bail is 10 thousand dollars then the premium fee of ten to fifteen percent would be 1 thousand or 15 hundred dollars. Depending on the charges and the duration of the t5rial, another premium payment may be required. Generally, the premium paid is only valid for one year. The remaining amount of the bail bond is covered by collateral. The premium amount is not refundable, regardless of the disposition of the charges against the accused. The collateral will be released, assuming the court has come to a decision and bail terms were satisfied. If you flee the court, or “jump bail”, the entire premium payment and collateral will be seized by the bonding agency. Paying premium payment to bond agents can save you money and allow you to manage your money instead of paying a cash bond to the court for the entire bail amount. A bail bondsman can provide additional information on premium payments.

I guess she should stick to being an SP!

 

[james t kirk]

Which is why I don't give anyone who appears under the age of 40 and physically healthy shit. Lazy fucks.

Well, let loose the 4 horseman of the Apocolypse, I have agreed with MLAM twice in one day.

The world must truly be ending.

 

[james t kirk]

I understand you more every day creampuff !

Your utopia would resemble Saudi Arabia. No trials, killing people who vandalize ( without a trial) and nuking entire regios that YOU don't approve of .

Tell me more please.

But let me ask first if you would like to live in a place where you had these rules.

No wait, don't answer -I can guess.

Why is it that you think because we might think that our current Canadian Justice (pardon the oxymoron) system is a joke that that means that we advocate Saudi Arabian styled justice?

What I want is a reasonable justice system.

I do not actually believe in the Death Penalty, mainly because I think that it belittles the rest of us.

But I think that a life sentence should mean a life sentence, not life, but we'll let you out in 9 years really.

I keep thinking of one of the assholes who shot Jane Creba on Boxing Day was out of jail and on probation for Armed Robbery. He did 30 days. 30 whole days for armed robbery.

Now, I 'm not saying that he should have had his hands chopped off. But, 10 years behind bars wouldn't bother me. 30 days is a joke, and that asshole is laughing all the way.

It's all about centre of the spectrum with me and right now, Canadian Justice has swung too far to the left. There's no concern for the victims of crime, only worrying about the rights of the perpatrators of crime.

That is fucked up.

As far as these vagrants killing this guy walking down the street, I don't care what he did to provoke them. You don't kill someone over getting spat on (if that is indeed the case)

Bottom line, they murdered someone (allegedly). If they are found guilty, IMHO, they should get a life sentence. I'm not advocating that they get stoned to death, or their heads chopped off. Just that if they are guilty that they spend the rest of their lives behind bars. Simple as that.

 

[twobigo]

Which is why I don't give anyone who appears under the age of 40 and physically healthy shit. Lazy fucks.

so when approached by a panhandler propped up against a wall do you sorta crouch down, jiggle some change in your pocket and then coyly ask for a birth cerificate or driver,s liscence and also check their blood pressure and use a tongue depressor to check down their throut..

 

[joebear]

Full payment does not have to be paid immediatly.

Premium payments represent the bail bondsman’s fee for securing your release from confinement. This fee is normally restricted by law to a certain percentage of the bail amount. For example, if bail is 10 thousand dollars then the premium fee of ten to fifteen percent would be 1 thousand or 15 hundred dollars. Depending on the charges and the duration of the t5rial, another premium payment may be required. Generally, the premium paid is only valid for one year. The remaining amount of the bail bond is covered by collateral. The premium amount is not refundable, regardless of the disposition of the charges against the accused. The collateral will be released, assuming the court has come to a decision and bail terms were satisfied. If you flee the court, or “jump bail”, the entire premium payment and collateral will be seized by the bonding agency. Paying premium payment to bond agents can save you money and allow you to manage your money instead of paying a cash bond to the court for the entire bail amount. A bail bondsman can provide additional information on premium payments.

I guess she should stick to being an SP!

google is easy to use. just cut & paste.

http://fortmyersbailbonds.com/bail_related.html

 

[Anderson]

Why is it that you think because we might think that our current Canadian Justice (pardon the oxymoron) system is a joke that that means that we advocate Saudi Arabian styled justice?

What I want is a reasonable justice system.

I do not actually believe in the Death Penalty, mainly because I think that it belittles the rest of us.

But I think that a life sentence should mean a life sentence, not life, but we'll let you out in 9 years really.

I keep thinking of one of the assholes who shot Jane Creba on Boxing Day was out of jail and on probation for Armed Robbery. He did 30 days. 30 whole days for armed robbery.

Now, I 'm not saying that he should have had his hands chopped off. But, 10 years behind bars wouldn't bother me. 30 days is a joke, and that asshole is laughing all the way.

It's all about centre of the spectrum with me and right now, Canadian Justice has swung too far to the left. There's no concern for the victims of crime, only worrying about the rights of the perpatrators of crime.

That is fucked up.

As far as these vagrants killing this guy walking down the street, I don't care what he did to provoke them. You don't kill someone over getting spat on (if that is indeed the case)

Bottom line, they murdered someone (allegedly). If they are found guilty, IMHO, they should get a life sentence. I'm not advocating that they get stoned to death, or their heads chopped off. Just that if they are guilty that they spend the rest of their lives behind bars. Simple as that.

I do not know what you advocate -I was talking directly to Lansclad and his hypocrosy and constant contradictions.

I believe that bail -if the judge thinks there is no flight risk- is a very good concept because of our system ( OUR meaning free countries and not dictatorships). This womans bail meets the criteria and is not a surprise really.If this was my daughter or yours ( god forbid) I would hope for bail. There should be a trial. Lansclads pre historic views are basically based on him being King . He has often stated about ''nuking the entire Middle East'' because they cannot achieve peace.

Thank God in our country ( and I am a radical for right wing politics btw) we have trials and rights unlike in Lansclads' utopia of when Kings and dictators decide the fate . Yes she gets a trial and not a trial on a hooker board-a real trial.

 

[basketcase]

It's worth mentioning that this is election generated news. If it wasn't politicaly motivated, why haven't other incidents in the past been front page news?

 

[kbluejayk]

Not true in Canada. There are no bail bondsman in Canada. In fact it is illegal, in Canada, to borrow money from someone else to post or secure your bail. It is a form of obstruct justice.

Well, it is partially true in that they (the family) only have to post a percentage of the bail (10%?) They do not post the full amount up front, but are responsible for it if the bail terms are broken or breached.

 

[kbluejayk]

Why is it that you think because we might think that our current Canadian Justice (pardon the oxymoron) system is a joke that that means that we advocate Saudi Arabian styled justice?

[What I want is a reasonable justice system.]

There is NO Justice System in Canada!
It is a LEGAL System - designed to enrich the participating lawyers!

Just listen to them squawk when the Feds want to change anything!

As for the panhandlers - well, this is Canada - they have their legal rights to piss on the pavement and harass everyone and repulse the tourists! They are like the Canada geese - the more they are fed the more their numbers grow and multiply! Don't expect the Miller 'Taliban' at City Hall to do anything about it! They already throw $millions at the problem....and want MORE taxes!

 

[LancsLad]

I understand you more every day creampuff !

Your utopia would resemble Saudi Arabia. No trials, killing people who vandalize ( without a trial) and nuking entire regios that YOU don't approve of .

Tell me more please.

But let me ask first if you would like to live in a place where you had these rules.

No wait, don't answer -I can guess.

You back?????? too bad.


Whats with the creampuff line. is that an insult that I somehow missed.

 

[LancsLad]

I do not know what you advocate -I was talking directly to Lansclad and his hypocrosy and constant contradictions.

I believe that bail -if the judge thinks there is no flight risk- is a very good concept because of our system ( OUR meaning free countries and not dictatorships). This womans bail meets the criteria and is not a surprise really.If this was my daughter or yours ( god forbid) I would hope for bail. There should be a trial. Lansclads pre historic views are basically based on him being King . He has often stated about ''nuking the entire Middle East'' because they cannot achieve peace.

Thank God in our country ( and I am a radical for right wing politics btw) we have trials and rights unlike in Lansclads' utopia of when Kings and dictators decide the fate . Yes she gets a trial and not a trial on a hooker board-a real trial.

We had a proper system of justice in this country at one time, then the fuktard bleeding hearts took over. Time for a little bit more punishment to fit the crime and a lot loss mollycoddling of the criminals.

I said she could have a trial, we'll just execute her after it.

 

[joebear]

Well, it is partially true in that they (the family) only have to post a percentage of the bail (10%?) They do not post the full amount up front, but are responsible for it if the bail terms are broken or breached.

They did not have to post any amount of money it was no deposit surety bail. Cash bails are for people who are not ordinarily resident.

whether or not the the terms of the bail are breached then the bail amount is estreated and the sureties have to explain to the court why they did not fulfill their obligations and can be liable up to the full amount. usually it is a percentage determined by the court.

the sureties will get a notice in the mail if the bail is going to be estreated.

Estreatment court is once a month at 361 University Avenue.

 

[twobigo]

i have a different angle...and it,s got nothing to do with bleeding hearts or loonie lefties like Lanceslad seems to think...only a closed minded dink wearing blinkers thinks that way..or a guy who loves England so much he thinks wearing powdered wigs should be made mandatory...any way , here is the different angle..the law is unequally applied[big surpise there lol]..some one accused of murder..is out on bail within days, but a shmuck like Tony Rosato, accused of harrassment has to rot in jail for 2 yrs..nothing to do with liberal or conservative, bleeding hearts, or hard asses, so Lance lay off the idiotic rhetoric, get over Trudeau, and leave left wing right wing arguments out of it..it,s so outdated man...

 

[kbluejayk]

i have a different angle...and it,s got nothing to do with bleeding hearts or loonie lefties like Lanceslad seems to think...only a closed minded dink wearing blinkers thinks that way..or a guy who loves England so much he thinks wearing powdered wigs should be made mandatory...any way , here is the different angle..the law is unequally applied[big surpise there lol]..some one accused of murder..is out on bail within days, but a shmuck like Tony Rosato, accused of harrassment has to rot in jail for 2 yrs..nothing to do with liberal or conservative, bleeding hearts, or hard asses, so Lance lay off the idiotic rhetoric, get over Trudeau, and leave left wing right wing arguments out of it..it,s so outdated man...

Good example! Most definitely NOT a 'Justice' System!!

 

[LancsLad]

You should know better than to infer that I in any way resemble a "closed minded dink". I don't look at all like that ugly dude in your mirror.


I do agree with you on the Tony R. thing, that is just weird what is going on.


I've said many times, we don't have a justice system, its a legal system.


Theres a line somewhere about " First we go for the......". A certain profession springs to mind but in deference to DQ's vocation I shall not mention it.

 

[Anderson]

We had a proper system of justice in this country at one time, then the fuktard bleeding hearts took over. Time for a little bit more punishment to fit the crime and a lot loss mollycoddling of the criminals.

I said she could have a trial, we'll just execute her after it.

I agree that the justice system is a joke. I think it is very soft too. I agree with a strong fair system here and the fair part is bail.
The creampuff comment is due to me thinking how soft you really are, but hiding behind very insulting ,demeaning, loud posts. In person methinks you would not be as arrogant though.

 

[danmand]

We had a proper system of justice in this country at one time, then the fuktard bleeding hearts took over. Time for a little bit more punishment to fit the crime and a lot loss mollycoddling of the criminals.

I said she could have a trial, we'll just execute her after it.

Are there less crime in the US? They have what you would call a proper punishment system, death penalty and all. But it seems to me that there are more violent crime there. You do not compute, as we say in the business.

 

[LancsLad]

Are there less crime in the US? They have what you would call a proper punishment system, death penalty and all. But it seems to me that there are more violent crime there. You do not compute, as we say in the business.

What business is that???? Not butter cookies I hope, that just clogs the mind and creates more euroweenies and their farkin regulations .

They are too soft with the sentencing and multitudes of appeals in the US as well.

We pay the bloody taxes, the laws should protect those of us who don't roam the streets stabbing people and severely punish those who do.