Muslim Gang kill/ and torture man for weeks because he is non muslim in france

[oldjones]

only muslims can show so much hate ,…edit…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8023990.stm

When you're somewhere, where throwing up won't damage anything, read up on what the good Christians of the First Crusade—blessed by the Vicar of Christ as God's holy work—did to the unarmed people of Jerusalem: Christian, Muslim, Jewish, it didn't matter. They were equal opportunity butchers, and had no shame hollering Deus Vult!* and invoking their patron saints as they pursued mothers and children into synagogues, mosques and churches and slew them at the altars. The streets ran with blood. Only the rich survived. In God's name†

Now that was showing hate. Where do you think Muslims learned jihad?

For God's sake, stop blaming religion and ask yourself what you can do to make better people. God hasn't yet.

* Latin: God wills it!

† Since there is only one god (the one Christians call God) then everyone who worships just one god must be worshipping the same deity, as She well knows. Name is the only difference.

 

[Brookstone]

Organised Religions are a bad thing. I'm an Agnostic so I don't have time for any religion. What really annoys me about Muslims is that are openly hostile towards Jewish people. But when anybody says anything about them, they cry about religious persecution and scream for blood. they are the biggest hipocrits around.

And for anyone who claims not all Muslims are like that, any Muslim who stay silent when somone uses their Religion to commit acts of hate, you are just as guilty as the perpatrators. If you don't all want to be paited with the same brush, have the guts to stop violent acts done in the name of your God.

Well religion aside, I can also say that applies to certain people in this community we live in.
As for the 2nd part, why does it matter if you're muslim or not? I think that applies if you're human period. Just cuz you're not muslim or religious makes it ok for you to not stop some form of violent/criminal act?

Quote: "And for anyone who claims not all Muslims are like that..."
I have to ask,Whats wrong with that? Thats like someone saying blacks, white, brown, purple etc, people are this, that, and the other. Should we all agree with that too?

I agree that all humans hate. But for anyone who always points the finger at others. Our problems in this world of racism, religious war etc, will never stop until you start with yourself first.

 

[Brookstone]

To add to that, Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a philosophy, or a way of life.

Ya cuz its along the same lines as 420, beer and everything else. lol
Seriously, I see what you're saying, but to people such as Atheist, I highly doubt they will agree Any religion is a way of life.

 

[Ameena]

This cannot be compared to Guantanimo Bay or Israel's attack on Palestine. These are misguided in their own right but at least motivated by profound acts of war or performed on or in retaliation to a perceived enemy.

So these people are excused because they were 'misguided'? They all fall under the same category in my eyes; I don't excuse hatred and violence just because I commiserate with their situation.

 

[Twister]

Originally Posted by oldjones
And some scream "Jesus Christ!" when they rape. How are these observations relevant to intelligent existance?


Twister "Who screams Jesus Christ while they rape? Never heard of that?"

You lead a sheltered life.

Amazing you know so much about my life based on a simple question...impressive

 

[Aardvark154]

More of the usual TERB antireligious balderdash combined with ignoring some of the real issues involved. Meanwhile on other threads it is remarked that those writing about the problem of unassimilated Moslems in Europe are just racists.

 

[LickRus]

That's because everything he knows is "relevant to intelligent existance"..a true legend in his own mind!

LOL Another "knows it all" type......?

 

[WhaWhaWha]

So these people are excused because they were 'misguided'? They all fall under the same category in my eyes; I don't excuse hatred and violence just because I commiserate with their situation.

Oh yes I agree. Slitting your mothers throat while she sleeps or shooting your pregnant wife in the back while she is performing housework, or kidnapping a stranger from his workplace -- all are exactly the same as retaliating against missile launches with return fire, or coercing a captured enemy for intelligence information. No difference whatsoever.

 

[RayFinkel]

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[toughb]

Ray,

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I'm trying to see Gods love but having a tinny bit of a problem...

 

[Ameena]

Oh yes I agree. Slitting your mothers throat while she sleeps or shooting your pregnant wife in the back while she is performing housework, or kidnapping a stranger from his workplace -- all are exactly the same as retaliating against missile launches with return fire, or coercing a captured enemy for intelligence information. No difference whatsoever.

Because only Muslims do these things, right? I guess domestic violence is non-existent in North America and everywhere else? It may be for different reasons, but it exists all the same within every race, religion, culture, etc. Nice wording of the latter, must make things easier to justify

I'm not defending any one religion, and I don't discriminate; I dislike all religions equally. Thank goodness I'm an Atheist!

 

[Don]

Who screams Jesus Christ while they rape? Never heard of that?

That's called "grasping at straws"

 

[diehard]

yawn

 

[qwertyuio]

What I don't get about people like this is what is their long term goal supposed to be? Do they really expect to eliminate other religions? Do they hope to scare people into converting to islam? It's assholes like this that make islam the least appealing religion today. I'm an atheist, but if I were to convert to something, buddhism would be most appealing to me, seeing as how it's everything that these guys are not. Do they think that they're bringing glory to their god somehow? Do they truly believe a god like that is worth worshipping?

Try as I might, I just can't understand how anyone can take the time to think about this kind of thing and then decide that it is a good idea.

 

[Don]

What I don't get about people like this is what is their long term goal supposed to be? Do they really expect to eliminate other religions? Do they hope to scare people into converting to islam?

The ultimate goal of true christians and muslims are to spread their respective religions (convert everyone). As history has shown, they both have used peaceful and violent means to achieve their goals. The difference these days between the two groups is that the percentage of "true christians" among the total christians is much smaller than the number of "true muslims".

 

[Rockslinger]

Because only Muslims do these things, right? I guess domestic violence is non-existent in North America and everywhere else?

Very few things in this life are absolute, we are speaking of degrees. It is much more prevalent in one particular religion than in any other religion. Not to condemn (verbally) it is tantamount to condoning it. Remember that story about the father who buried his daughter alive? Did anybody (at least verbally) condemn that act? Maybe this world would be a much better place if we are all Amish.

 

[amber-jade]

† Since there is only one god .

ya , sadly it's called money



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[rama putri]

Because only Muslims do these things, right?

No, but personally, I'd really like to see a very high level imam stick his life on the line and say that there are Muslims who do true evil and should be condemned by other Muslims. Instead of issuing fatwas against writers, human rights activists and cartoonists, it would be nice if they issued a fatwa against a true miscreants of Islam. Just once. It would be a start.

 

[oldjones]

No, but personally, I'd really like to see a very high level imam stick his life on the line and say that there are Muslims who do true evil and should be condemned by other Muslims. Instead of issuing fatwas against writers, human rights activists and cartoonists, it would be nice if they issued a fatwa against a true miscreants of Islam. Just once. It would be a start.

And it would be great if the Pope denounced Christiands who do evil and the Council of Rabbis and… . Y'know something, they pretty much all do, but think of the last time you actually listened to the Pope, or any religious leader.

That's why it doesn't get into the news. Boring.

Sensational stuff about burying daughters, now that's news.

We were talking about the Austrian Catholic who buried his daughter in the cellar and had four kids by her weren't we?

 

[rama putri]

You're not getting it.