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My pet peeves as an Sp.

Jade4u

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papac said:
Well stated, this thought goes beyond SP's. There are those who need to plan for their excursions. Both their time and their finances. After great expectatios the time, finances, or both have been taken advantage of by an SP, MPA, or Dancer. We all need to be more tolorant as I have never walked in Her shoes and She has not walked in mine. When you give respect youwii receive respect.

Agreed you give respect you will recieve respect. I definatley feel sorry for those that do come a long way to see an sp. I had one recently and only briefly met him downstairs I guess he did not have a chance once on the road to call me, but did call me twice through the duration of the day and I thought I was being stood up all in all I did book someone else in the mean time as he was late and I thought it was a game but he did show and now I feel bad about it. But when I did meet him I felt so bad as he really did come a long way. But he was perfectly understanding in the situation and paid for my lost time. I take it the man had a very hectic day and the weather was not at its best either. :( The fact is circumstances happen on both sides of the table at times and neither can control what is going on. He understands what I went through and I now understand he was legit.
 

xarir

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Sorry to hear that Shanel. I guess it's one of the unfortunate sides to this biz. Perhaps you could try advertising exclusively on the web instead of using print advertising.

As for the threat of a bad review, if the threat is a TERB posting, tell him to go ahead! Then report the b*stard to the mods so they can ban his sorry ass.
 

rt-24

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i'm confused...

... so are you telling me i CAN'T threaten you by saying i'll post a bad review? and i CAN'T be rude and hang up on you... and i HAVE to show up and honour my commitment to you out of common decency and respect!??

damn! next thing you're going to tell me i can't verbally abuse you or have you pay for MY services!

what is the world coming to!
 

Catherine

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pet peeves

The ladies that have responded have basically covered the pet peevs in setting up an appointment; i.e. phone hassels, asking to desribe services over the phone, no shows etc...

But to name some pet peeves durig a call...

1. Kissing is something I love to do, I think it sets the mood for a good session, but bad breathe is sooooo hard to get over. Please use the mouth wash I always supply, it will lead to more ethusastic kisses.

2. Also to add if when kissing, please lead up to the DFK, don't grab me after saying our hellos and shove your tongue down my throat. Those kind of kisses will come, during a more appropriate time in our session...if you know what I mean.

3. Also please do not swallow my face when you kiss me, my lips are for kissing, not my lips, chin and nose....

4. The MSOG contest. Yes it is available, but some of you guys are trying to see how many SOG you could get in before our time is up. What's up with that? Where's the passion? The romance? It's like your in a race or something.

That pretty much sums it up....hopefully this helps out some novices on what not to do....

Catherine
xoxoxoxoxxo
 

rt-24

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oh no...

Catherine said:
1. Kissing is something I love to do, I think it sets the mood for a good session, but bad breathe is sooooo hard to get over. Please use the mouth wash I always supply, it will lead to more ethusastic kisses.
what! so now i have to actually be hygenic and brush my teeth/mouthwash so you don't have to smell my stank breath! i bet you'd also like me to shower as well!?

all these requirements! i see SPs so i can be a sloppy disgusting bum! come on... which girls like grimey, stinky and rude guys? anyone? anyone?

:D

rt-24
 

tboy

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First let me start off by saying I totally sympathize with you. Always have and always will. I don't know how sp's (and women in general) put up with some men. But you know? The a-holes that you are running across are typically the ones women go for...go figure?

With that being said, please review my comments below:

1. No shows, guys the make me get ready and go to my incall location and don't show up or call.

Sorry, but do you know how many times I'VE been stood up by women (non-sps)? It sucks but I think in this biz you are exposed to a lot more men than the norm so your odds of the no-shows increases exponentially.

2. Guys who who want cyber sex via the pm potion of this site, guys who want to send 30 or 40 pm's before booking.

As for the cyber, well, you want horny guys (cuz you're an sp) and hell, guys are horny! As for the 30 or 40 pm's, well, to me (and I will assume this is somewhat common) that we want to get a "vibe" before dishing out our hard earned money. No matter what you have to admit that 200 plus an hour is a lot. This, to me, equates to almost a day's wages. In addition, maybe some of these guys are just lonely and want someone to chat with?

3. Guys who ask to have my services on credit.
Credit as in Credit Card or as in "can I pay you later"? Take this as meaning they really really want to see you but don't have the funds available. Hell, guys are always looking for something for nothing!

4. Guys who call and ask you a million questions then hang up in your ear.

Sorry, maybe the wifey or ?? walks in and they have to get off FAST.

5. Guys who know what we offer and still ask for things we don't do.

Do they ask for things that you specifically said you don't do? Just remember: in my humble experience a woman changes her mind about 10 times an hour so maybe what was off the menu 2 days ago, may be on the menu (maybe they are hoping you're having such a good time that you will relax your rules which in my case, has happened).

6.Guys who know the rates and offer me a third.I am not a drug addict try Kingston Rd.

7. Guys who think they can threaten me to do extras by telling me they'll write a bad review.

Well, I'd post their T ID in your response to their review. This is, of course, just wrong. I do happen to mention my TERB ID but only so the lady knows who I am and if they've read my posts so they will have a better idea of who they are dealing with.

Added by Tyra:

1. Another thing that bothers me is agencies calling to know if we want to join.

Why does it bother you that someone is offering you a job? There are good things and bad things associated with being with an agency and also as an independant. Hell, I'd love it if I got phone calls offerring me a job.

2. peolpe calling asking if we want to be net models and porn stars.

Hmmm let's see, if I was looking for net models or porn stars where would I look? At the local catholic school or at places like the red zone....hmmm Again, if you don't like getting job or offers then post that in your ad or say "no thank you"

I realize telemarketers drive everyone nuts but sorry, you're not alone in this. Like I said, I do sympathize but as posted before, there are upsides and downsides to ALL jobs. Just in this industry you may encounter more off the latter.

Keep smiling and try to overlook the idiots out there, we're not ALL bad (though some of us can be really bad and need a good spanking! lol)
 

Secret_Sp

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This is a good thread....

My pet peeves would have to be:

Guys asking for a discount because they're 'well endowed'. LMAO.... And guys say escorts exagerrate on age, measurements, weight, etc.

Smoking, bad breath. I don't want to taste your Big Mac or that secret sauce. No pun intended there!

Stinky and wet cocks and then asking for bj ( take a wash please!) I can't tell you how many times I wanted to gag on someone's winky during a cbj. Imagine bbbj!!!!! :eek:

Guys who are already clients who call up and want to 'talk'. Next thing you know, they're trying to get you to talk dirty to them. In that case, my fee is $3.99/minute.

Clients talkin on the phone while you're giving bj to an ex-girlfriend! True story btw. Cripes!

Clients who are so damn stupid by making appts, cancelling and then have the audacity to call up the next week asking for another. One time, a guy did this to me twice, the third time, I sent him to the wrong hotel. He called wondering why some old fat lady answered the door. Now he will understand what's it like for HIS time to be wasted. Plus he had to take the bus. LOL.

E-mails from morons who want to make you a website in exchange for my services. Hello!!!! I already have a website! Are you blind? It's so easy to slap a site together nowadays. I think I will leave it to the professionals who know what they're doing and have established themselves.

Oh, oh, oh!! And this is my all time fav: Clients who ask you out to a movie, dinner, or to meet their mother. WTF? Since when is it written in the rules that pros go home to meet mom? My time is my time. If I want to do all of the above, that's what my friends are for. Plus they aren't expecting a freebie in the sack. Would you want to 'work for free' on your time off? I don't think so. Business is business and it can be done with pleasure but please respect a provider's limits.


I have noticed the other pet peeves mentioned but since I've been in the biz for a bit, I've worked out most of those annyoing incidences out like the plague. They still happen from time to time though. In every business there will be BS to deal with especially in this one but there are ways to minimize it. This will make your life less of a headache and focus on the task at hand- your clients. And please don't say that because we're getting paid the 'big bucks' that we more or less have to put up with this stuff. No one does in any line of work but that's life and you can have it happen a lot less. Remember, you're in control of the situation.

First, don't take anyone's crap. Stand up to them. I.E. When someone threatens to write a review. They're expecting you to follow their commands. We're not circus animals. Tell them to leave or that you're leaving but do it in a calm manner to avoid any type of unforseen altercation. When these kind of guys guys know they can't get away with it, they won't pull the above stunts that other ladies here mentioned. People will respect you for it.


Marketing 101: Target your market. You will only attract seedy clientele if you don't research first. Advertise on internet adult sites where you will find a middle to upper middle class clientele. In my own expererience through trial and error, print advertising is costly and doesn't guarantee anything. It's hit and miss. Sure, you could meet some nice men and some bad ones but expect a lot of hangups, explicit questions, etc, etc. Anyone can pick up a paper or NOW or EYE magazine off the street.

Phonecalls: If people are consistently wasting your time, tell them you have to hang up but do it politely. You can usually tell in the first few minutes if someone is sincere or just paying with you. Always ask for a callback number because you're on the other line. If they refuse, you know they're not serious. Don't accept blocked calls and make people aware of that.

E-mails: If someone is asking for pictures of your face, explicit questions, dont' answer them. Just delete. Yeah, it's a pain in the butt however you're really not wasting anytime except for hitting a button. Once they don't get a response, they won't bother. Block their e-mail address after deleting.

Con'td....
 

Secret_Sp

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No-Shows/ Abusive clients/ Blackmailers/ : Always get a telephone number even if it's just a cell. Ladies that don't confirm are asking for trouble. If something happens, you will never know who it is that has hurt you, threatened you because you wouldn't provide certain services or even just a no -show. All of these guys are reported to the bad client list. Thankfully these sites are available nowadays.

State on your site that you don't send pics of your face and to read all of your info and stats before contacting you. If you appear firm but professional, these seedy guys won't even attempt to call you. Always, always act professional and courteous even when the guy is a complete asshole. Do you know how many times I wanted to tell someone to f*** off? A million and one! At one point I just decided to use a punching bag in my apartment to let off some steam. This all comes with the territory. If you can't handle it, you're not cut out for this type of work. Jerks are everywhere. It's how you deal with just like talking to an irate individual in the customer service business.

And one last thought:

Take the high road- always. :)
 

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rt-24 said:
what! so now i have to actually be hygenic and brush my teeth/mouthwash so you don't have to smell my stank breath! i bet you'd also like me to shower as well!?

all these requirements! i see SPs so i can be a sloppy disgusting bum! come on... which girls like grimey, stinky and rude guys? anyone? anyone?

:D

rt-24
I know you are joking, but I don't think you'd want to see an sp who likes these kinds of guys. Especially after.
 

Secret_Sp

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Least Favorite sayings...

1. Can I have bbbj?

2. Can we do it witout a condom? So and so does..

3. Can I see you for a half hour?

4. C'mon, cum baby cum. #$%&!!! I can't do it on cue. Now you wonder why women fake orgasms. As you faking it, then they cum. Like we're going to cum together or something. LOL. I'm not a member of the Partridge family. I don't do everything together.

5. I've got such a big cock and I'm going to show you what I can do with it.

6. Daddy got a surprise for you. Make me want to puke when they say that. Sound like a pedophile.

7. How much do I owe you? ( As they continue to count a bunch of $20 bills in your face).

8. Do you have boyfriend?

9. Would you like to go to dinner or a movie sometime? This ain't Lavalife!

10. How much do you make in a year? Yeahs right! Like I going to tell you.

11. You such a dirty whore/ bitch/ slut as they're banging the crap out of you. Like this dirty talk of degrading someone is going to be so great. I turn around and sock them in the nuts. How do you like them apples ass****.



Favorite Sayings:

1. I bought you something.

2. Can we meet next week?

3. I had a really good time.

4. You're beautiful or very pretty

5. I want to take you shopping

6. How do you like to be pleased?

7. Would you like massage?
 

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tyra19 said:
I agree with you on the places we put our ads. Do you know of any upscale places to advertise the eye is awful, its strickly cheap rude people.

Your ad in eye is only a 3 or 4 line text ad. That's why cheap people call you. They see a small inexpensive simple text ad and figure if the ad is cheap so is the cost of the service. The answer is simple... take your phone # out of the ad so that way only guys who have computers can find your phone #. Or make your ad a larger photo ad. Cheap guys don't call the photo ads as much because they see the quailty of the ad and the photo and they know right off the service is not cheap.


Just my 2cents.
 

backflush

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Shannel, and other SP's. I never relalized what you girls have to put up with. Thanks for the really interesting thread.
 

Hugh Jorgan

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Ladies.....

Ladies.....I don't hear any of you complaining when we're handing you the $250 per hour.

Lots of us put up with crap in our jobs we don't like, but nobody is paying us $250 per hour to put up with it.


I think you're barking up the wrong tree if you're looking for sympathy.
 

Hugh Jorgan

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Jennifer

I completely understand what you are saying and agree that the "crap" can be very emotionally draining/damaging, etc. that being said, that is why you are getting $250 per hour and not $25 per hour.

Any job with a large salary comes at a price....whether that be working conditions, time or study investment, etc. etc.

But we are all free to choose what employment option we puruse.

My only problem is with girls who freely choose this profession, love the money that comes with it, but complain the whole time about everything not being peachy keen and the way they want it to be.
 

zog

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Here goes...

I'll probably get flamed for this but, then again, I wouldn't be a friendly arrogant bastard if I didn't say a few contraversial things from time to time.

First of all, I just want to say that I am always a proponent of treating people, SPs and otherwise, with respect and consideration. Regardless of what your job is, you deserve to be treated fairly and with respect. I am confident that any SP who has seen me will confirm the fact that I have always been a complete gentleman withing the context of our encounters.

However, one must also remember that respectful treatment is not an absolute quality. Respectful treatment varies based on many things. For example, if I meet a nice young woman and ask her to join me in a restaurant, it would be very rude of me to then expect her to keep getting up and getting me things from the counter or the bar. On the other hand, if I went to the same restaurant, there would be absolutely nothing rude about my expectation that the waitress, quite possibly also a nice young woman, would bring me drinks and food to my table.

Obviously, since serving food and drinks to her customers is her job, the waitress would not expect me to say something like
fiendly arrogant bastard said:
have a seat and let me bring that food over here for you. Would you like something to eat as well?
I could be a complete gentleman and still expect her to do her job without having to reciprocate in kind. Of course I would still be expected to be polite and reasonable in my requests; just because it's her job to serve me food does not mean that I own the waitress or that I can humiliate or abuse her.

My point is that we are allowed and even expected to treat people differently when we have a financial relationship with them. If I saw someone struggling to carry many bags through the airport, it would be respectful of me to offer to help. However, if that person was a paid baggage handler who is getting paid to carry my bags, I would be under no obligation or expectation to help him (or her) out.

Now we come to SPs (pun somewhat intended). I do not advocate that a client should treat an Escort abusively and I agree that we should completely respect the limits and boundaries of her service. However, I take issue with Escorts who expect us always to treat them as we would a real-life girlfriend or lover.

When I see an Escort, I am purchasing a service from her and she is selling a service to me. She has every right to expect to get paid for her service and I have the same right to receive the service I am purchasing. It may enhance the quality of my experience of the service I am getting for me to provide her some service in return (free of charge of course). If I want to try to pleasure her or take her favourite positions or acts into account in my actions (assuming she'd want me to) I am within my rights to do so. On the other hand, it is not rude or disrespectful of me if I choose to focus on my own pleasure and satisfaction and not be so concerned with hers (as long as I respect her boundaries and restrictions).

When some SPs have stated above that they the dislike being pressured to perform "extras", I totally sympathise and respect their position. On the other hand, to those SPs that get miffed because their clients expect value for their money and are focused on receiving a service and not providing one, I would suggest rethinking your professional choices. Sometimes I see an SP, not because I can't get laid outside the Hobby, but because I want to do what I want to do and not worry about satsifying my partner for a change. This may sound callous but, remember, that's the service I'm paying for.

I think it's a great stroke of good luck for an SP if a client decides to tip her extra $$, take her shopping, or tell her she's beautiful. No doubt, this has happened many times and has probably been well deserved and received. I'm just asking the SPs to, please, don't act as though you are entitled to these perquisites. We're already paying a significant sum of money (an amount decided on by the SP) to receive a service. As long as we're civil, polite, and adhere to your professional limitations, we are being respectful. Everything else is gravy.

Zog.

Question to the mods: why is the word "h-a-n-d-l-e-r" blocked by this forum? If I type it in by itself, it turns to *******.
 

ClitLover

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Good discussion so far.

I never knew you ladies had it so rough. As for advertising in Eye, Now, Redzone, the previous posts about avoiding them sound like a good idea. I used to use them when I started this hobby almost 10 years ago. But I have stopped a long time ago.

As for cancelled appointments, the best way to avoid these is do outcalls to hotels only and confirm the room number with the front desk.
 
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Respect comes from both sides of the street. If you want a session to go well then gentlemen show some respect for the ladies and ladies do the same for the men. Im any type of self employed business you are going to get BS from many different angles.

OSerena
 
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ClitLover said:
Good discussion so far.


As for cancelled appointments, the best way to avoid these is do outcalls to hotels only and confirm the room number with the front desk.

Good idea except alot of girls only do hotel outcalls BUT.....many a times girls have caled to confirm the room number and have gotten.."there is no one registered to that room" or you get there and dude does not answer the door. I have booked incall apointments and have had the guy call and say he is 5 mins away and needs my house number again...and guess what ..A NO SHOW.....

In this biz anything can happen..... :rolleyes:

OSerena
 

Hard Idle

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Nice

I'm enjoying the how of you ladies (Cute & Jennifer especially) are being very open & specific.

What's your real opinion on receiving oral (front & back) and other foreplay from a client? Is there any amusement in it, or would you rather just get the guy out of there your way, with the least fuss & interraction? Do you have preferred times to work (early in your day vs. towards the end) ?

What are some ways to help the SP have good session (besides the platinum card). Do you like to get some insights into the client or is it better to remain as impersonal as possible?
 
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