NDP fiscal plan

[Frankfooter]

Raise their corporate taxes will not help them much now will it
Increasing corporate taxes is a job killer

You can trot out a hundred BS studies by the loonie left saying it is not, however the fact remains higher taxes takes more cash flow from the pie leaving less to hire new employees , train them and or investing in the business.
Mulclairs plan is flawed

Higher taxes are not the answer
The answer is smaller, more efficient government

You are wrong.

Canadian corporate cash hoard rises to $630-billion in first quarter

http://business.financialpost.com/n...h-hoard-rises-to-630-billion-in-first-quarter

Corporations are just sitting on cash right now, they aren't investing in jobs.
Tax it and let the government put it to use.

 

[ogibowt]

It is so much more than that & I certainly hope the average voter puts more thought into their decision than you will

it might be more so to you, maybe not to the average Canadian....i guess you must get depressed at the mere thought that all of Canada doesnt think like right wing dodo birds............as for me, i have voted NDP since David Lewis,, i guess you must be disappointed in me ..lol..

 

[JohnLarue]

You are wrong.

http://business.financialpost.com/n...h-hoard-rises-to-630-billion-in-first-quarter

Corporations are just sitting on cash right now, they aren't investing in jobs.
Tax it and let the government put it to use.

More short term thinking on your part
They will spend it.

Now may not be the right time just because some pinhead named Frankfooter wants them to & thinks he has a claim on it
The oil companies are approx. 1/3 of Corporate Canada & they are in the middle of really bad commodity price cycle. They need to hoard cash if they want to survive
Another 10-15% are the miners who are also faced with commodity price pressure

You do not have a clue & say some really foolish things

 

[JohnLarue]

it might be more so to you, maybe not to the average Canadian....i guess you must get depressed at the mere thought that all of Canada doesnt think like right wing dodo birds............as for me, i have voted NDP since David Lewis,, i guess you must be disappointed in me ..lol..

Not disappointed you voted NDP, but disappointed in your selection criteria
What a waste of such an important right

 

[ogibowt]

Not disappointed you voted NDP, but disappointed in your selection criteria
What a waste of such an important right

you are turning back to the old Larue, who refuses to comprehend a simple couple of sentences, i was not talking about myself, i made an assertion that you disagree with and now you question my voting criteria... im a NDP voter, and been so since 1972, without missing a vote in any election since then...since when has that been a waste?....idiocy on your part rears its ugly head once again

 

[Frankfooter]

Raise their corporate taxes will not help them much now will it
Increasing corporate taxes is a job killer

More short term thinking on your part
They will spend it.

Now may not be the right time just because some pinhead named Frankfooter wants them to & thinks he has a claim on it
The oil companies are approx. 1/3 of Corporate Canada & they are in the middle of really bad commodity price cycle. They need to hoard cash if they want to survive
Another 10-15% are the miners who are also faced with commodity price pressure

You do not have a clue & say some really foolish things

You're changing your tune pretty quickly here.
First you claim its a job killer, then when its pointed that corporations haven't been investing in jobs, just saving you now claim they will spend it eventually.

The point is clear.
Corporations are sitting on a shitload of money, taxing them won't kill jobs.

 

[FAST]

The point is clear.
Corporations are sitting on a shitload of money, taxing them won't kill jobs.

So why don't just simply state what you really want to happen,...take the corps money,...why screw around with raising taxes to steal it,...just march in and take it.
Was done a while back,...but as I recall,...didn't work worth shit,...and the wall came tumbling down.

I realise you are a socialist,...whos favourite phrase is,..."whats mine is mine,...whats yours is mine,...

But in the free world,...that,s not how it works,...

If you think raising taxes does not send a message to the corps that are paying for your retirement,...I have some slightly damp land down south you can have cheap.

FAST

 

[saxon]

You're changing your tune pretty quickly here.
First you claim its a job killer, then when its pointed that corporations haven't been investing in jobs, just saving you now claim they will spend it eventually.

The point is clear.
Corporations are sitting on a shitload of money, taxing them won't kill jobs.

Then again corporations can move money anywhere they want including countries that have much lower tax rates like Ireland and Luxembourg.

 

[Butler1000]

Wait until Naomi Klein and her ilk start lobbying the NDP if by some miracle they get in.

Have you seen the new Manifesto?

These are all prominent Dippers. This is what the core vote and the caucus want for the country.

 

[Frankfooter]

So why don't just simply state what you really want to happen,...take the corps money,...why screw around with raising taxes to steal it,...just march in and take it.

Scaremongering much?

 

[elmo]

Did you believe Harper's 'never'? What was 'oh but these deficits are different' sauce for Harper's goose is surely going to be exactly the same for Mulcair's gander if circumstances warrant. I'm constantly hearing they did for Mr. Never.

Why would you imagine the NDP would hew to an even more fiscally conservative standard than Our Dear Conservative-as-they-come-Leader? And even he lied to us, didn't he?

So is that a yes or a no?

 

[elmo]

You're changing your tune pretty quickly here.
First you claim its a job killer, then when its pointed that corporations haven't been investing in jobs, just saving you now claim they will spend it eventually.

The point is clear.
Corporations are sitting on a shitload of money, taxing them won't kill jobs.

Perhaps not, but prices will rise if taxes rise. Owners of companies (private owners or public owners) do so because they want to make money. Do you believe the tax increase won't be passed on and that corporations will just reduce their profits? Not gonna happen.

 

[oldjones]

So is that a yes or a no?

Harper's promise came first, and was definitely the biggest possible lie; bring us up to date on how you believed him. Then, and for the years of deficits after.

I hold no brief for the NDP or its leader as I've often said. So for me, the only bit of relevance your question can have is whether you imagine Harper's a congenital liar/truth-teller, and whether that condemns him or entitles him (and others) to 'the usual' that all pols=liars get. Even NDP pols, who wisely limit their promise to one or two balanced budgets, (and those on the coat-tails of Mr. Never-Ever-a-Deficit's first balanced one in eight). But then perhaps you thought Our Dear Leader was just too stupid to be believed when he made his false promise.

Or you could just try to make a point of your own.

 

[elmo]

Harper's promise came first, and was definitely the biggest possible lie; bring us up to date on how you believed him. Then, and for the years of deficits after.

I hold no brief for the NDP or its leader as I've often said. So for me, the only bit of relevance your question can have is whether you imagine Harper's a congenital liar/truth-teller, and whether that condemns him or entitles him (and others) to 'the usual' that all pols=liars get. Even NDP pols, who wisely limit their promise to one or two balanced budgets, (and those on the coat-tails of Mr. Never-Ever-a-Deficit's first balanced one in eight). But then perhaps you thought Our Dear Leader was just too stupid to be believed when he made his false promise.

Or you could just try to make a point of your own.

Got it, you are incapable of answering a simple question.

 

[rhuarc29]

Unfortunately they have left out a few things. Two of them is their plan to increase CPP and EI benefits, this will mean increases in payroll taxes for both workers and the employers.

If it results in Wynne cancelling her ORPP, I'm all for raising CPP. They should have increased CPP payments long ago. Frankly, I trust the federal government more with a pension plan than Ontario.

 

[onthebottom]

While I started a year ago wishing for an NDP government in Canada as a joke, I'm starting to think Canadian's are now stupid enough to elect one.... hillarous.

OTB

 

[bver_hunter]

Elected the NDP based on their fiscal plan like choosing an escort based on her cooking.

Escorts cannot cook?? Many escorts on this board will be insulted by this statement.

 

[JohnLarue]

you are turning back to the old Larue, who refuses to comprehend a simple couple of sentences, i was not talking about myself, i made an assertion that you disagree with and now you question my voting criteria... im a NDP voter, and been so since 1972, without missing a vote in any election since then...since when has that been a waste?....idiocy on your part rears its ugly head once again

It is a waste to determine your vote because you have grown tired of Harper and feel he has worn out his welcome.

The party you vote for should be the one who you feel is best able to govern our couther & in particular will deliver polices advantageous for our economy

There is a lot at stake here
On the other hand you have voted NDP since 1972 without any success @ the federal level. That is also a waste

 

[JohnLarue]

You're changing your tune pretty quickly here.
First you claim its a job killer, then when its pointed that corporations haven't been investing in jobs, just saving you now claim they will spend it eventually.

The point is clear.
Corporations are sitting on a shitload of money, taxing them won't kill jobs.

No changing of the tune
You are still an ill informed idiot who says a lot of foolish things

If they have the cash then they can hire when they choose
If you & the other thieving socialist has stolen it then it is defiantly not available & nobody gets hired
Get it moron ?

I will make a small correction.
I said 1/3 of corporate Canada is oil & gas. that is actually closer to 25% by Market Cap
The oil companies can not hire right now & will need every penny just to ensure they survive as oil prices may persist below the cash breakeven point
another 10-15 % are miners who are in the same boat because of low metal & commodity pricing
One third are financial institutions who by law must keep minimum capital available.

So there you have more than half is constrained.

You did not think of the obligations the corps have to their shareholders to ensure the long term viability of the company did you?
You also did not think of the existing constraints business have to comply with did you?
No your tiny little mind just sees someone else's money you want to steal to apply to your commie agenda

You are worse than a fool , you are an arrogant fool

Now let me set you straight you POS
That cash is not yours to make a claim on
That cash is the property of the shareholders

If you ever want to be taken seriously here or anywhere else you should respect property rights & stop making claims on other peoples property

 

[JohnLarue]

nice try

What do you mean?

Payroll taxes reduce the take home
If your paycheque is $100 smaller because of higher CPP & EI premiums, that is a payroll tax

MulCair is saying no increases to personal taxes, however everyone payslip will be smaller because he will increase CPP & EI premiumns
That is pure bullshit & very misleading
Canadians deserve better