Obsession Massage

Never Talk To The Police

Titalian

No Regrets
Nov 27, 2012
8,490
9
0
Everywhere
You still don't get it do you? One bad interaction with the police can bring down the entire power of the State down on the individual. It can ruin lives. Cops doing their job (and I've seen the positive stories too) is great but when they lie, beat down, murder and do it with extraordinary authority granted to them by the State, then that's a BIG FUCKING DEAL.

I just hope for myself, my family and friends that we never run into a disturbed cop. Look at what they do to a white woman, in jail, under video surveillance. If you're a minority, black and there's no camera rollings.....it can be you vs them and there's no recourse.


This guy had felony counts laid against him. "Resisting arrest"? And with video tape evidence to contrary? These guys lie worse than Rob Ford and their narcissism and control issues destroy people.

Let's not give them an easy pass. They have significant authority from the State over the lives of regular citizens.
This type of shit is not called for!!! WTF, aren't these guy's given a psychological test, before they are admitted into the force? Just wondering. Did you guys see this video???
This was pure brutality !!!
 

Serpent

Active member
Jan 1, 2006
1,861
0
36
This type of shit is not called for!!! WTF, aren't these guy's given a psychological test, before they are admitted into the force? Just wondering. Did you guys see this video???
This was pure brutality !!!
The cop in this case was a 19 year veteran of the force.

I don't believe most cops who commit brutality are born that way.

Think about all the bad shit this guy must have seen over 19 years. The worst dregs of society. Maybe his personal life wasn't stable.

Whatever it is, 1 moment of poor judgement on his part like this push to the woman can end his career. And so it happened.

That's why cops should have mandatory psychological help given to them every year. To monitor their mental health and also de-compress. Society owes them that just like Kevlar vests and other equipment.
 

Titalian

No Regrets
Nov 27, 2012
8,490
9
0
Everywhere
The cop in this case was a 19 year veteran of the force.

I don't believe most cops who commit brutality are born that way.

Think about all the bad shit this guy must have seen over 19 years. The worst dregs of society. Maybe his personal life wasn't stable.

Whatever it is, 1 moment of poor judgement on his part like this push to the woman can end his career. And so it happened.

That's why cops should have mandatory psychological help given to them every year. To monitor their mental health and also de-compress. Society owes them that just like Kevlar vests and other equipment.
Good idea!
 

Aardvark154

New member
Jan 19, 2006
53,750
3
0
This type of shit is not called for!!!
It wasn't and he has been convicted.

I'm not sure if we will ever know what set him off. If you see the extended tape that shows her just before she leaves the cell she's drunk but not verbally abusive.
 

MRBJX

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2013
1,184
123
63
The problem with these types of LE interactions is they're usually recommended by ppl who think they're smarter than the law. All it does is create suspicion, which can slide into probable cause. If you were really smart, you would interact politely with LE and be on your way.
That's a problem with the law, and way a broken system works.

If a PO has no legitimate reason to talk to you, let alone even begin questioning you, they should STFU and stay away. It is a real problem with the law, when this is not the case.
There has to be oversight into what the cops can and can't do, and that oversight cannot come from cops.
 

TeasePlease

Cockasian Brother
Aug 3, 2010
7,732
5
38
That's a problem with the law, and way a broken system works.

If a PO has no legitimate reason to talk to you, let alone even begin questioning you, they should STFU and stay away. It is a real problem with the law, when this is not the case.
There has to be oversight into what the cops can and can't do, and that oversight cannot come from cops.
The root of your opinion is a distrust of the police. It's not "us vs. them". They're on our side, the side of civilized and just society.

There's a reason why police services fall under the oversight of elected officials.

Ironically, police interaction is the very core of the community policing model, which has proven to be effective in building trust between the police and problem communities.
 

Babypowder

Active member
Oct 28, 2007
1,869
0
36
It's not "us vs. them". They're on our side, the side of civilized and just society. .

if this was the case they would never to investigate people who they didn't suspect committed a crime.

They would chew out the "Small minority" of cops that violate the public's rights instead of lying to protect them or doing absolutely nothing
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
47,010
5,602
113
The root of your opinion is a distrust of the police. It's not "us vs. them". They're on our side, the side of civilized and just society.

There's a reason why police services fall under the oversight of elected officials.

Ironically, police interaction is the very core of the community policing model, which has proven to be effective in building trust between the police and problem communities.
That is the way it used to be, but is no more. When I was a kid, policemen were respected and trusted, and they were armed with only a night stick. Today, even local policemen are carrying guns and look like paramilitaries. That look is designed to intimidate.
 

MRBJX

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2013
1,184
123
63
The root of your opinion is a distrust of the police. It's not "us vs. them". They're on our side, the side of civilized and just society.

There's a reason why police services fall under the oversight of elected officials.

Ironically, police interaction is the very core of the community policing model, which has proven to be effective in building trust between the police and problem communities.

Times have changed TP. Cops are not protecting and serving you, the growing sentiment is simply that they are NOT on our side, they are NOT part of civilized and just society, they ARE powertripping, jacked up, ready to shoot you humanoids.
Sure not all are, but thats a tired line now, it has become clear that we have no idea how many abuse their power, how much is covered up, how much is not reported and we (the just people) have no recourse, that in itself is un-just.
Further we have buffoons like harper making RCMP folks sign "shut up or die" agreements labeld as oaths of secrecy - we pay these people...really???
 

Siocnarf

New member
Aug 14, 2014
358
0
0
A major problem is over-criminalization. Too many criminal laws, too broad, complex, overlapping, etc. There is virtually no one that cannot be charged with something if a prosecutor searches hard enough. In reality police don't usually waste time enforcing laws unless it serves a practical purpose for the social order. Most of the time it works for the good, but the point is that the fate of citizens are completely at the discretion of the police and prosecutors.

Case in point are the drugs and prostitution laws. Politicians know they'll never stop those activities. That's just an excuse to keep power over people. The more laws police have in the book the tighter the hold they have on society. It's not good enough saying they rarely abuse their power, even if it's true. The point is they can do it any time they want and victims of police abuse are helpless.

So overall, I think as police are a good body of men and woman, but the problem is much more complex than just people being good or bad. We need the police; they need to have some power and discretion, but it's a very difficult balance.
 

buttercup

Active member
Feb 28, 2005
2,568
11
38
. . Think about all the bad shit this guy must have seen over 19 years. The worst dregs of society. Maybe his personal life wasn't stable. . . That's why cops should have mandatory psychological help given to them every year. To monitor their mental health and also de-compress. Society owes them that just like Kevlar vests and other equipment.
Society owes them their pay.

Any time the police are recruiting, there's a dozen applicants for every job. If you don't like the bad shit, don't do the job - there're plenty who will.

This poor chap, he had a moment of poor judgement. That's no reason to destroy him. It's not as if he violently assulted someone, and inflicted grievous bodily harm on her, in a fit of temper. We should show a little understanding of his problems -- maybe club together for him to have a session with a lovely lady.
 

Titalian

No Regrets
Nov 27, 2012
8,490
9
0
Everywhere
Any time the police are recruiting, there's a dozen applicants for every job. If you don't like the bad shit, don't do the job - there're plenty who will.
You completely lost me here... :confused:

So your saying the recruters are doing a bad job?
 

Marla

Active member
Mar 29, 2010
1,563
13
38
60
ajax
An acquintance who is an escort had an attempted robbery at gunpoint. She is either very brave or very stupid because she chased him out of her condo unit with a baseball bat hitting him, several times. Someone called the police in, but he got away although they combed the area.

Then the police returned to her unit and asked her to go to the precinct to try and make proper ID and some stayed behind. In the interim, the ones staying behind did an illegal search of her condo unit and found she grew an insignificant amount of weed and when she returned promptly arrested her.

She felt so violated. Obviously, it was thrown out of court because they didn't have proper search warrants. What a waste of the taxpayer's dollars.
 
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts