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Seems Trump got elected at least twice, so maybe not such a bad candidate. What's your point? If Newsom, who has messed up California is the best you can think of, that's not much. I would consider a more moderate like Shapiro to be a better candidate.
Its just a bit rich when right wingers are declaring that there is nobody as good as their candidates right now.

 

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For now it's still the donors until the economy tanks enough.
The money follows the leaders, once somone or small group get momentum the money will come. JD/Maga is on track to have $2well before election season starts. It will take a lot of money to make this run.
 

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Seems Trump got elected at least twice, so maybe not such a bad candidate. What's your point? If Newsom, who has messed up California is the best you can think of, that's not much. I would consider a more moderate like Shapiro to be a better candidate.
If Shapiro want to make a run he has a solid base and record to support it. Again it will come down to Socialists or traditional Dems.
 

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Probably, though Elon declared he won it for trump, which implies he cheated.
And it took Comey to beat Clinton.

now grandpa wants to play with the bomb

Oh my god the excuses. It took Clinton to beat Clinton, such a bad candidate, same with Kamala. I am still trying to figure out how Biden got 81 million votes, most ever, hard to believe such a statistical anomaly for such a bad candidate and it took pretty much all of them, a system shutdown of several key swing states and several days to beat Trump ...hmm now that's got to be the strangest thing ever.
 
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The money follows the leaders, once somone or small group get momentum the money will come. JD/Maga is on track to have $2well before election season starts. It will take a lot of money to make this run.
Its billion a battle of billionaire puppet A vs billionaire puppet B for a while now.
But Cuomo has over $30 million of billionaire money behind him and he's still 25 points behind Mamdani.

Its quite possible that america is ready for someone who speaks for voters and not the rich.
 
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it takes a while for someone to separate from the crowd, will make an interesting primary on the Dem side, I think the GOP will have a coronation of JD Vance.
Except that Vance doesn't have the charm to run as a populist. trump appeals to the poorly educated because he speaks like a 4 year old, Rob Ford looked like a party animal and DoFo learned to eat ice cream and say 'hey folks'. Vance, like PeePee comes off as condescending and mean.

Vance vs AOC would be interesting.
 

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Oh my god the excuses. It took Clinton to beat Clinton, such a bad candidate, same with Kamala. I am still trying to figure out how Biden got 81 million votes, most ever, hard to believe such a statistical anomaly for such a bad candidate and it took pretty much all of them, a system shutdown of several key swing states and several days to beat Trump ...hmm now that's got to be the strangest thing ever.
There is a reason why the GOP is against public education.
 

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Its billion a battle of billionaire puppet A vs billionaire puppet B for a while now.
But Cuomo has over $30 million of billionaire money behind him and he's still 25 points behind Mamdani.

Its quite possible that america is ready for someone who speaks for voters and not the rich.
I wouldn’t confuse NYC with America, anyone who runs for POTUS will need massive $, Kamala burned through $1.5b in 107 days and the campaign ended up in debt.
 

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Except that Vance doesn't have the charm to run as a populist. trump appeals to the poorly educated because he speaks like a 4 year old, Rob Ford looked like a party animal and DoFo learned to eat ice cream and say 'hey folks'. Vance, like PeePee comes off as condescending and mean.

Vance vs AOC would be interesting.
I disagree, of all of them Vance has the most compelling personal story AND he’s wicked smart as they say in Boston.
 

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I disagree, of all of them Vance has the most compelling personal story AND he’s wicked smart as they say in Boston.
Vance was smart in the way that he picked up this trophy!!


It does not end there. This is even a Conservative newspaper that has to point out his "qualities":


Listen to more of his own history, including the Vance myth that World War 1 and World War 2 ended with "some kind of negotiations"!!


With Trump and him in the Whitehouse......... no wonder that there is all sorts of chaos going on in the USA!!:mad:
 
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Except that Vance doesn't have the charm to run as a populist. trump appeals to the poorly educated because he speaks like a 4 year old, Rob Ford looked like a party animal and DoFo learned to eat ice cream and say 'hey folks'. Vance, like PeePee comes off as condescending and mean.

Vance vs AOC would be interesting.
If any candidate lost to Trump who is the most incompetent President in the history of the USA, then they should stay out of the 2028 race!!
Hillary Clinton has walked away professionally from getting involved. Kamala should do the same. AOC is really rising in her popularity and would make an excellent handpicked VP by Newsom. She definitely appeals to the Gen Y and Z age groups!!
 
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