NO Shows becoming a habit in Ottawa

[The Baroness]

I agree totally...it does go both ways and maybe all the names of these inconsiderate men and unprofessional ladies should be posted.

My point in starting my thread was not to rant,but rather to remind the men that this costs the ladies money(not to mentions pisses them pff royally)....if I dont show up for a doctors appt without cancelling, I get charged money...Too bad SP's couldnt do that.

 

[calloway]

Miranda... sorry I mean Baroness... I agree that both clients and SP names should be posted... but highly doubt it will ever happen even though it seems we both support it. While there's costs to SP's in lost revenue... there's also possible costs for the clients such as room accomodation and travel expenses.

 

[The Baroness]

You're right.....it is not acceptable......

I have just spoken to one lady who will not be returning to Ottawa anymore as she spent more money than she made last time because of no-shows. She only accepts 2 clients a day and so when one doesnt(or both) doesnt show up.......you get the point.

Guys I guess its up to you....soon you are going to see alot less ladies coming there if this trend continues.

 

[JoyfulC]

It isn't always exactly the same for the men as for the ladies. In the case of my friend, she puts out money to provide a convenient and discreet incall location for people. And so if she gets stood up, she gets stuck with the bill. Here's a woman going out on a limb to make it easy and convenient for a man to get a session and, unlike me, she doesn't even expect a full verification up front, and yet she has been burned a number of times by men who, in return for the effort and expense she's made on their behalf, can't even be bothered to pick up the phone and give her a courtesy cancellation call.

If an escort stands a client up, he can always call someone else. There are lots of escorts around. It's a buyer's market. It doesn't usually work that way for the escort. If she's told people she's booked for that time period and turned down other opportunities, it's unlikely she is going to be able to pick them up again at the last minute. Most men don't appreciate being phoned at the last minute and informed that they're second string.

I'm lucky to be able to insist on total verifications, but I realize that if I didn't have such a large regular client base (developed over the course of many, many years), I wouldn't be able to get away with it. I feel so awful when I see things like what happened to my friend. She is a good person and I believe that she truly makes a huge effort to ensure the guys she sees go away thrilled. A number of people I know have seen her and I've never heard a single negative comment about her. On the contrary, I've heard nothing but glowing reports. That's why it hurts so much when I see her let down this way.

...c...

 

[Terry]

Gentleman,

On all points Lyla is 100 per cent on the mark. A courtesy call at the very least should be made. I am also quite sure who the lady is that Lyla is speaking of. She is someone who deserves a lot more respect then what I'm reading here. Playing these kinds of games with the ladies is disrespectful and down right nasty.

 

[southstreet]

MEa Culpa Mea Culpa

OK, OK....as to the subject of the beginning of this thread, I myself am the guilty party that stood Luv up....

I booked a 12:00 Noon appointment with Luv on Friday, because she told me that was the only time she had available. I have seen Luv before, reviewed her (quite positively) on this Board and was certainly honest in wanting to see her.

My work meeting didn't let out until 12:20pm, much later than I expected, at which time I gave Luv a quick PM - at around 12:25 pm. I APOLOGIZE, APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE for not calling instead - I realize it was a grave error. Since she had already told me she was booked for the rest of her day, I knew re-scheduling was not an option and so I did not try. I was profuse and earnest in my apologies to her and still would recommend her to any other interested hobbyist.

Later that afternoon, I acted on some info from JayBiker and gave "Nat" a call because I was still in the mood and interested in seeing someone that day. I then posted the review on this Board.

Luv is understandably upset with me, and there's not much else I can do but apologize and come clean.....there - I've done that.

But (with the exception of calling, which I admit I should have done) I acted as quickly and as respectfrully to Luv as I could.
My sincere apologies if my actions caused Ottawa to be labeled a "hotbed" of no-shows. This was a first for me, and as my no-showwas work-related, it was unavoidable.

Thanks, and again Luv, I am truly sorry.

 

[luv4lust]

you were not the only one and this in no way makes up for standing me up as i said in pm
your first call should have been to me to see if i had time since you were the first one to post i should come and i had made special arrangements so that i could accommodate your schedule

(a very nice man gave up his appt to let you have one)

 

[southstreet]

All I can say...

...at this point is "I'm sorry." I realize that this has ruined my chances for another app't with Luv (and quite possibly other SPs, if my bookings are no longer trusted).

I just thought the most honourable thing would be to come clean at this point.

'Nuff said.

 

[Damondean]

southstreet: There is an easy way to restore your reputation. Just send her the fee for the missed appointment with a bit of a tip. It would be the gentlemanly thing to do.

 

[southstreet]

southstreet: There is an easy way to restore your reputation. Just send her the fee for the missed appointment with a bit of a tip. It would be the gentlemanly thing to do.

Fair enough.

 

[RemyMartin]

Re: All I can say...

...at this point is "I'm sorry." I realize that this has ruined my chances for another app't with Luv (and quite possibly other SPs, if my bookings are no longer trusted).

I just thought the most honourable thing would be to come clean at this point.

'Nuff said.

MAYBE you ruined your chances for Luv, but for other SPs?

I think you are stupid.

 

[RemyMartin]

Fair enough.

Make sure you do it.

 

[luv4lust]

remy lay off he feels bad enough have some class and keep your smart ass comments to your self for a change

 

[luv4lust]

i don't want the money i didn't do anything to earn it thanks anyway southstreet

 

[southstreet]

The offer stands, and I am more than willing to make good on it, but I understand it's difficult to accomplish without compromising either your or my privacy. Either way, you're a class act, Luv, and I mean that.

Oh yeah, and Remy, why not take a flying leap while you're at it - after slamming Luv in other posts without ever having spent time with her, I'm sure you've really got her best interests at heart - gimme a break.

 

[luv4lust]

it was never about the money it was about men showing respect and having the courtesy to use a phone and make a 2 min call !!!

you sir are also a class act to come forward unlike the other two guys who didn't even have the balls to fess up
ty
luv

 

[newinottawa]

Fess up Remy. You were one of the other no shows. I know it!

 

[JoyfulC]

Having read these posts and thought about this for a few days, I've come to the conclusion that even though the clients in question were inconsiderate, it is basically the escorts' fault that such situations occur. After all, we're the professionals, and it's our responsibility to see to the business end of things. It is a buyers' market, and so if left up to them, they can write whatever rules they want. So why leave it up to them?

I have long been an advocate of escorts travelling from other Canadian and US cities to work in Ottawa to provide more variety here. But I had something different in mind from what has happened in recent months. In recent months, we see escorts visiting, taking clients on a no-questions-asked basis and undercutting local talent. That's quite sad and speaks of a certain desperation.

I had always envisioned that visiting escorts would somehow be even more elite than the locals -- able to command higher prices (or at least high end market prices), and the very best treatment from the local consumer base.

But in a way, it makes sense. These escorts come out of much larger markets than Ottawa -- and why would they? If they were doing it right there, sadly, they'd have little reason to come to a smaller market such as Ottawa.

The complaints we hear from escorts visiting Ottawa from other markets speak to their own poor business practices. If you don't verify your clients, then why expect anything less than no-shows? If you undercut the market here, then why expect to see our better clients.

I'm sorry it's worked out this way -- it sure didn't have to. For women with the dignity to charge market rates and to insist that clients share risk with them, it certainly wouldn't have had to be this way. I expect that it won't be long before we see visiting escorts give up on Ottawa and the same old tired contingent of n'are-do-wells bitching and moaning because they can't find what they're looking for in this city (which is essentially woman who are stupid or desperate enough to go cheap and unsecure).

There is an excellent client base here for those who have the dignity to access it. But those who don't value themselves can't expect anyone else to do so either. How sad!

..c..
(Yeah, I know I'm about to get kicked off TERB again! ;-) )

 

[RemyMartin]

Fess up Remy. You were one of the other no shows. I know it!

I never call her, even if she pay me I won't. Thankyou

 

[Mable]

I have not experienced this at all. The talent in from Montreal is superb and high priced. Not much in Ottawa is anywhere close.