NO Shows becoming a habit in Ottawa

JoyfulC

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Miss Valentine said:
No offense intended with my comments. I didn't say that Ottawa has NO high end escorts, I said that there were few. This opinion comes from conversations with clients and other escorts who live and play in Ottawa.
I guess that's understandable -- and probably results from a lack of experience.

I get the same thing. Three out of four of my most recent clients were from Toronto, and they always say things like, "I wish there was someone like you in Toronto." I get the same thing from guys in Vancouver, Calgary, Halifax and various US cities, but being experienced, I know better than to take that at face value. I'm sure there are many excellent escorts in Toronto and all these other cities -- if these guys aren't finding them, it's not because they aren't there. Perhaps they just feel more relaxed seeking out an escort in another city.

I hear this sort of thing often from guys who insist to me that there is no one as good as me in their local market - I've even heard it from guys from NYC, Las Vegas, LA, Boston, Atlanta, Paris, London, Dubai and other high traffic cities. I know better than to believe it, though. But not all escorts are so savvy. Some chicks believe everything they hear.

Also, I don't think that any escort could/ should consider themselves better than an escort from another city. That wouldn't make any sense, now would it? If someone did, you're right- a reality check would be in order.
I totally agree.

There are two kinds of escorts -- those always looking for new business and those who have comfortable repeat business. That's the only indicator.

And that's why, when an escort travels, her reason for doing so is an issue. For most of us who travel, getting away from home is hard! Many of us are looking to service our existing clients in that market, and maybe pick up a few more to make it pay.

Myself, I rarely publicly advertise when I travel because I usually already have my schedule filled when I do. But when I see escorts constantly advertising out of market, it makes me wonder (and I'm sure the customers wonder too) what's wrong with them in relation to their own markets that sends them off looking so often.

I'm sure that there are many factors. It seems like there are more and more new ladies in the industry,
Having been around more than 30 years, I can tell you that's just part and parcel of the business. This business constantly attracts new talent -- there will always be a new crop of chicks -- but few go the distance. Still, it's necessary to have a constant influx of new people to winnow out the best.

many of them offering extra, liberal services for less money which causes other escorts to lose a bit of business. Some escorts simply have horrible "customer service" and have a hard time keeping clients.

What do you think?
I think you have a point with the latter half of that -- poor customer service or inconsistent service is a killer. A few years back, a friend of mine visited Ottawa occasionally, and at first, she got a lot of business on spec -- but ultimately, she wasn't consistent in her service, and that sunk her. Let's face it: we're asking these guys to part with a significant chunk of change, and in exchange, they want to be able to count on having a really excellent experience -- something that will stay with them for a while. They don't really care what's going on in our personal lives. When we're with them, our job is to give them something memories are made of.

But I'm of mixed feelings on the "extra, liberal services" part of that. For one thing, I'm an old girl, out of the 70s -- I sincerely doubt that many contemporary escorts can challenge me on that aspect! Back in our day, we were raised on the premise of "free love" and "if it feels good, do it!"

Even still, I don't believe that escorts lose customers to escorts whose "restrictions" are less stringent -- as long as these escorts are still skilled in the ways of teasing and seduction. I don't believe that most men hold it against a woman who takes precautions. And although I'm not a huge stickler on such things myself, I don't believe that an escort needs to be all that "extra, liberal" in order to rock a guy's world. That's really where it's at, don't you think?

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RemyMartin

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JoyfulC said:
I guess that's understandable -- and probably results from a lack of experience.

I get the same thing. Three out of four of my most recent clients were from Toronto, and they always say things like, "I wish there was someone like you in Toronto." I get the same thing from guys in Vancouver, Calgary, Halifax and various US cities, but being experienced, I know better than to take that at face value. I'm sure there are many excellent escorts in Toronto and all these other cities -- if these guys aren't finding them, it's not because they aren't there. Perhaps they just feel more relaxed seeking out an escort in another city.


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The Baroness

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JoyfulC said:


There are two kinds of escorts -- those always looking for new business and those who have comfortable repeat business. That's the only indicator.


..c..
The 50 year olds who have been working for a couple dozen years are sure to have a few regulars, right Lyla?
 

OttawaMan007

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Sheik, I will restrain myself, however, I am still entitled to my opinion, I never ment to single anyone out I am just talking about the industry in general, I mean, look at the subject of the post!

JoyfulC - These women could learn something from you.

Back to Sheik and Baroness, in my post I said:

In YOUR defence, YOU can charge whatever you wish.


QUOTE]Originally posted by The Baroness
What is your problem? Who called you a low-life?

And whether I was a SP or not I would still have to pay rent so it is not an added expense.
And as anyone who ever saw me can tell, I was quite compassionate, not to mention affectionate, not to mention sexy...so Slow The F*** Down Buddy.

If you dont like the whole SP industry which it truely sounds like you dont...dont see SP's and dont come onto escort review boards and whine about how you would buy me a burger but i wont F*** you for free.

And BTW, now if I want my clients to "be good" as you say, I'll just whip their asses into submission....something you perhaps could benefit from. Or would my strap-on interest you more?
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Slow Down? Why, cause you can't keep up?

I want it for Free? I've made more money(PROFIT) in the last six months then you could make even if you took 24 clients a day for 365 days. I am a big spender and realize the value of a dollar, it just seems that SP's are the ones whom don't realize the value.

As for these two comments: "whip my ass into submission? Strap-on?" okay, obviously you have a dominance issue. And the mere fact that I've responded to you, will make you respond back...

I even notice how touchy you've been, someone posts 1 word and your right at it making a comment, so your obviously waiting for this post.

P.S. Don't wait for another response, your not worth the effort any longer, I'm sick of the excuses coming from the service providers in this post. And if someone decides to not want to partake in your service, MOVE ON, otherwise, don't come on here posting that no shows are a habit, cause your wrong, no shows are a FACT in ANY client-business relationship.
 

Metoo4

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Here it is! The money flashing, the "I'm better than you are" attitude, the "I'm right, you're wrong and that's life" attitude...

OM7, I don't get the point about the direction you're going since you started posting in this thread, and I don't think anybody does... Your starting point was flawed and it's just getting worst.

I just did a quick search of OM7's contribution to the board and, of all his posts, none is of any constructive nature, everything about him is him accusing SP and others, him defending himself, him flashing how rich he is, him telling everybody how good he is, him explaining everybody they should accept his point-of-view as gospel and him bashing/insulting all who dare rub him the wrong way.

Constructive posts can be a lot of things: review, answer to a question, assistance with the board's operation, personal opinion stated in a way not to be offensive or a simple factual opinion expressed respectfully.

A review can be negative without bashing the lady being reviewed, and some here are experts at doing it with class. Somebody having a bad experience with somebody else doesn't mean everybody will, it's the proverbial YMMV so, bashing is pointless. It's ok and normal some reviews will be negative.

I would say OM7, maybe you could consider reading yourself back before hitting the "send" button and, imagine yourself on the receiving end of the line, as if you were getting the message somebody else sent. How would you react? I bet you would not be "pleased"... Maybe you don't give a damn about us? Then maybe you should refrain to come here. The way things are going presently, you are becoming an excellent candidat to banishment.

I don't know how you are in your "real" life. Maybe you use this forum as a way to let steam out but, you sound like an angry person who is somehow very repressed. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not pushing you down, only, if you are half arrogant in life than what you are here, maybe some anger management courses would benefit you. Don't trust yourself to judge: ask around to peoples you know and trust, they'll tell you, unless they're too afraid you'll blow in their face.

This is only an opinion. If nobody gives a damn or agree with me, I don't mind at all!
 

Rider55

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OttawaMan007 said:
I've made more money(PROFIT) in the last six months then you could make even if you took 24 clients a day for 365 days.
Let's see now, 24 clients at 250 an hour equals 6000 dollars times 365 equals, um, er, move the decimal, let out the dog, oh ya, two million one hundred and ninety thousand dollars.

Now let me get this straight, you are spending time here on terb for what exactly?
 

JoyfulC

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The Baroness said:
The 50 year olds who have been working for a couple dozen years are sure to have a few regulars, right Lyla?
Well, I'm not quite 50 yet -- just turned 47. (And unlike many escorts who lie about their age, I'm happy to present documentation -- I'm proud of mine!) When I do turn 50, there's going to be a hell of a party!

But you said a mouthful. I got a call yesterday from a client of mine in the States who I first saw when I was in high school. I take that seriously! I think that it's easy for a teenaged chick to attract clients who like the young 'uns. And it's easy for older women, as I am now, to attract those who appreciate mature women. But to keep a man's attention for 30+ years is something I think a lot of wives would aspire to. I can't claim that this is entirely strategy on my part -- I feel that I've been given a gift that I realize not everyone has been given. And I'm very grateful for it. I've had a good life, many, many wonderful memories, and I continue to have fun and pleasurable adventures. Who could ask for more?

A few posts back, one of the escorts here mentioned something about doing a "free tour" here in Ottawa. This confounded me, I'll admit. Do some escorts not realize that there are many, many, many chicks out there who are, basically, sluts, who give it up for free? Come on! Any guy here who wants it for free has his options. If they come to us, it's because they're expecting a professional service -- even if they want it with a GFE effect.

Please do not think that I'm such a black-hearted person. I set my rates high and my standards high -- but don't you think that costs me business? Of course it does. But in doing so, I feel I'm giving something back to my industry and my colleagues. I would like to see other escorts be able to charge more and work under safer, saner, more secure circumstances. For that, am I a monster? After all, when I first came to Toronto in 1982, the going rate was $250/hour. Why is it that, in 20+ years, we've never seen that rise while our costs of living have gone up?

Sadly, my reward for this has been to have to tolerate being undercut -- on both price and policy -- persistently. And then I come here and read escorts' complaints about the problems they cause for themselves by being so easy. Well.... it's too much.

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