Nortel

shakenbake

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Problem was that a lot of Nortel equipment was bought by blind companies in SE Asia, reverse engineered, remanufactured and sold under a different brand name at a greatly reduced price. I remember back then that some of our equipment was being sold for up to $5k per circuit board and a "frame" (up to dozens of circuit boards, stored in cabinets that were hard wired together) were selling for up to a half million each. We were also making complete telelcommunications switch systems stored in modified tractor trailer units that were sold for $50 million each. All you had to do was drive the unit up to your central switch station and hard wire it into your system. In some situations these mobile switches were capable of handling up to tens of thousands of individual lines.
Also as mentioned, a lot of our production went out of country, due to NAFTA, particularly to Raleigh Park, North Carolina and to Mexico. The Mexican production quality SUCKED. We had roughly a 98% inhouse acceptance rating of product made in Canada compared to a roughly 33% of product made in Mexico. We tried to ship the rejected product back to Mexico for reworking but in the log run it doubled our cost of that product. The Asian factor and NAFTA is what really started the slow death of Nortel.
That was part of the reason for Nortel's demise. What really kiled Nortel was the megalomania of upper management that wanted to acquire useless technologies through acquisitions and mergers. You can thank the likes of John Roth, Frank Dunn, and their cronies. When Nortel was in financial re-organisation back in 2009, the execs paid themselves very large retention bonuses to stay on the sinking ship that they had created, while the pensioners got told to kiss the asses of those who got the big bucks. Mike Z pretended to care. But, he was another one of those empty-worded bastards. Hell, I witnessed one of these bastards in action while he ruined one small company with his tactics and business 'savvy'.
 

Bif_Butkiss

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That was part of the reason for Nortel's demise. What really kiled Nortel was the megalomania of upper management that wanted to acquire useless technologies through acquisitions and mergers. You can thank the likes of John Roth, Frank Dunn, and their cronies. When Nortel was in financial re-organisation back in 2009, the execs paid themselves very large retention bonuses to stay on the sinking ship that they had created, while the pensioners got told to kiss the asses of those who got the big bucks. Mike Z pretended to care. But, he was another one of those empty-worded bastards. Hell, I witnessed one of these bastards in action while he ruined one small company with his tactics and business 'savvy'.
OK I guess there's that too, but your talking about something that happened in 2009 and I'm talking about things that happened 16 years before back in 1993. Back between 93 -96 there were over 3000 production people laid off at their Brampton facility alone. Primarily due to NAFTA. Way back then we could see which way the company was going. Especially when their stock started to take a nose dive.
 

Samurai Joey

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I am still amazed to hear that Nortel as a company even exists. I am also curious as to the overall health of the high-tech sector in the National Capital Region, which used to be the second largest employer in that area aside from the federal government.
 
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