Not getting caught hobbying, YOUR tips, tricks, good advice put it here for everyone.

[lessjamie7]

This post is about not getting caught and how you have achieved that over the years we can all use the advice and I am interested in what guys feel is risky and how they mitigate those risks so please take a minute to reply and help with the tips and tricks that have kept you under the radar.

I have been hobbying for twenty years and my greatest stresses have come from making stupid mistakes that could have led to serious consequences, I just got lucky and as a result smarter.

I have never ever used my personal cell phone to communicate anything escort related, EVER.

I have a pay as you go phone that is exclusively for hobbying best buy has them you pay as you go you can get the top-up cards at shoppers to keep them activated there is no record of your activities being sent to you in any form as there is no signup and no account associated with it, make sure the screen lock is activated with a security code so no-one can pick it up and scroll through your texts, I have found that phone in the login stage meaning someone tried to get into the phone out of curiosity.

Just imagine the scenario where you forget your phone at home one day and someone picks it up and reads, I AM AT THE HOLIDAY INN ROOM 307 AND YES I SWALLOW CUM BROUGHT YOU THE HAIRLESS HAMSTER YOU REQUESTED AND I DO ANAL SEE YOU SOON BABE!

. There are 2 scenarios you can use for this pay as you go phone, first, it is work-related and you can have it right out in the open makes sense if you are a contractor, second, hide it and never ever leave it lying around because the question of why is this phone on the table and where did it come from is a tough hoop to jump through. Many guys use their personal cell phones, which is convenient however has all kinds of shortcomings I don't think I need to point them all out just use your head, more guys have been fucked out of a marriage because they thought their personal phone was a great tool for hobbying or banging the neighbour. The second you leave that incall to delete everything off your phone.

Your wife ( Using landline or a neighbors cell ) calls you at work, Hi honey poo poo you forgot your cell phone here at home you big silly and I have to call my mom about her doctor's appointment and order her an Uber its urgent and I need to use your cell phone for the day mine is not working what is your access code?

INSERT LONG AWKWARD SILENCE,

Why the fuck wont you tell her ? well ? well ? now your fucked ,, there is no fucking good reason for not giving her that access code if you are in a normal healthy relationship and if you don't give it to her you are fucked forever because the trust flag is now on the field and she is going to become an overnight detective, you're fucked.

I have my own security sign in for my desktop, I am the administrator and there is a screen lock that activates after 60 seconds of inactivity no-one can access my account so all my favourites and saved info using the browser are off-limits and if someone did figure out my sign in, the browser such as Firefox? it is removed from the home page, the toolbar, and the start menu, and is hidden in a subfolder buried deep in my system registry so if someone did get to my home page, there is nothing there that is in any way incriminating. I also changed the name of the browser icon and as well the picture for it so it looks like nothing and cant be keyword searched. There is a guest account login so someone else can use my desktop but they can't access the administrative options or log in to that account without the security code and if you made that code from your birthdate and your wives or kids you are an idiot.

Making favourites can be helpful for instance, Agencies, TDL, Indies, CIMSW, Anal providers whatever, all these folders can have subfolders with the girls' name that you visited with or want to see and after you visit with them you can record your experience with them for services rates personality etc. you can also keep all this info on your tablet when you are on the move.

I cant use my personal phone for anything other than family ( so no looking at Leolist ) and if you are in that situation there is always getting a tablet with wifi that can connect to any provider such as Timmies or any major store that gives you access to the internet where you can browse discreetly when not at home. You can also use your cell phones data plan and use it as a tether for your tablet so when their is no WIFI to borrow you can stll connect to the internet. This will drain your data plan like a toilet but it works. Why do you have this tablet your wife might ask? Honey I have decided to start a diary it is private and personal and it is only for me so your wife can't say shit about it or ask to see it as well it has a security lock built into it so if you set it down and walk away from it it self locks and no-one can see what is on it, this is a great tool for dozens of reasons.

Be smart, getting caught fucking around with another woman is bad enough, getting caught fucking a prostitute carries with it a stigmatic public shaming from everyone in your life that has no bottom.

My first consideration for anyone hobbying is to really really think through how to be completely off the radar with your significant other if you have one,

So you have booked your first session with an agency girl and you are going to use Home Depot as the excuse to get out of the house, lets see how that goes?

WIFE - hey sweetie where are you going?
YOU - Uh,,,,,,Uh,,,,, Home Depot, I have to buy a piece of wood to smash myself over the head with
WIFE - Oh nice I am coming with you I want to smash your head in to
YOU - OH fuck I am booked with Heidi from West End Ladies in half an hour, OMG what do I do now?
WIFE - What's wrong honey? lets go, we can stop at Timmies on the way there and I can get a nice hot coffee to throw in your stupid face because you didnt think this hooker fucking thing through very well did you?

Does your vehicle have GPS locator on it that your wife can search?
Does you cell phone have location services activated on it so your wife can use the find phone option and see your at the Holiday INN?
Can your wife requisition from your internet provider sites searched records for your home PC , Tablet or cell phone ?

Make sure you have thought things through very well or you will stress the fuck out and get caught.

This is my best advice to you.

LJ

 

[SchlongConery]

Folding cash only!!!!

No e-transfers.

 

[Juggster]

If using an Android device, try to switch to dual sim phones. Put the burner sim card in the second slot and turn it on when needed.

You can find them on Amazon or Newegg

 

[lessjamie7]

If using an Android device, try to switch to dual sim phones. Put the burner sim card in the second slot and turn it on when needed.

You can find them on Amazon or Newegg

wow that sounds cool I am going to you tube it and see what it's about , thanks

LJ

 

[bebe]

Make sure your phone never never shows a preview of the message.

Use code names for the girls, that is to say use a male name. A classic name would be Mike Hunt lol

 

[DaveODave]

Instead of a burner phone/ sim, I find it easier to use an App and I thought this is much better as no additional hardware (phone, sim, etc) needed. Anyone think differently?

 

[curvluvr]

Thanks for the details. Much appreciated. Twenty years of concealing your hobby is a wealth of experience to share.

Pay-as-you-go phone is a good idea. But for those of use who can't justify having a second "work" phone, where would you hide the phone? Maybe not good for us who can only justify a single phone.

Dual sim phones is a good idea. I'll need to look into that. Do some mainstream Android phone brands (Samsung, Huawei, etc.) have these features, or am I restricted to buying an unusual, unrecognizeable brand from Amazon or Newegg?

DaveODave: The only thing is that some providers don't accept texts from those anonymous apps. what has been your experience with this?

 

[xmontrealer]

1. I saw an sp a couple of years ago and the dfk was quite intense, to the extent that just before I left I saw in the bathroom mirror that I was bruised under my lower lip. I immediately went to Shopper's, into the fancy cosmetics department, and had a makeup specialist help me all that was needed to hide the bruise so it would not be noticed by my wife. It took 2 or 3 products to be convincing!

2. I heard a story about a guy who saw an mpa, and had a great session, but noticed that her perfume was so strong that even the after-shower did not erase the scent. As he was going home to his wife immediately he panicked, but then had a brilliant idea. He went to a gas station, filled up his car, and, oopsy-daisy, splashed gasoline all over his hands. When he got home that's all his wife could smell, and he laughingly told her about his silly accident at the gas station. Of course she bought it!

 

[coolmanfever]

thanks for sharing. These are my strategies:

1. use Textnow app on my personal cellphone mainly for booking and confirming appointment. I only login into the app when I need it and logout after session. Some providers and agency can flag Textnow app phone number and wont pick up. So I am looking into dual sim phone card option but problem is that wife can still access your personal number and see the message

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2. I hide cash in the emergency kit bag stored in my car trunk. If wife discover cash there, I just say I stashed for emergency car situation.

3. I pre plan my booking for upcoming week on Sunday afternoon. And always book to see a sp on the way going to gym, gocery shopping, working, business meeting. always incporate seeing sp to my daily regular routine. Not the other way around. This will alleviate any suspicion.

4. most important: seeing sp just a fun time out of convenient. I try not to compromise my normal life style and routine for a SOG with a sp.

 

[J.A. Prufrock]

Instead of a burner phone/ sim, I find it easier to use an App and I thought this is much better as no additional hardware (phone, sim, etc) needed. Anyone think differently?

Many agencies don't take bookings or calls from text apps, I believe. Otherwise, this would be ideal.

 

[DaveODave]

Thanks for the details. Much appreciated. Twenty years of concealing your hobby is a wealth of experience to share.

Pay-as-you-go phone is a good idea. But for those of use who can't justify having a second "work" phone, where would you hide the phone? Maybe not good for us who can only justify a single phone.

Dual sim phones is a good idea. I'll need to look into that. Do some mainstream Android phone brands (Samsung, Huawei, etc.) have these features, or am I restricted to buying an unusual, unrecognizeable brand from Amazon or Newegg?

DaveODave: The only thing is that some providers don't accept texts from those anonymous apps. what has been your experience with this?

Thanks Curvluvr, that is true but in my experience, they are very few. I’ve plainly told some that I’m open to providing SP references rather than use my regular phone which has worked for me. Sometimes, I give my terb handle to verify me. If no response at all due to using app, I just move on. So many options out there. I had a scary experience couple of years ago when I used my regular phone and the escort messaged me with my full names after a while! Since then I never risk that again.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Instead of a burner phone/ sim, I find it easier to use an App and I thought this is much better as no additional hardware (phone, sim, etc) needed. Anyone think differently?

Escorts can usually tell if the call is coming from an app...some won’t book unless the call comes from a “real” phone.

 

[xyphy]

1. I saw an sp a couple of years ago and the dfk was quite intense, to the extent that just before I left I saw in the bathroom mirror that I was bruised under my lower lip. I immediately went to Shopper's, into the fancy cosmetics department, and had a makeup specialist help me all that was needed to hide the bruise so it would not be noticed by my wife. It took 2 or 3 products to be convincing!

2. I heard a story about a guy who saw an mpa, and had a great session, but noticed that her perfume was so strong that even the after-shower did not erase the scent. As he was going home to his wife immediately he panicked, but then had a brilliant idea. He went to a gas station, filled up his car, and, oopsy-daisy, splashed gasoline all over his hands. When he got home that's all his wife could smell, and he laughingly told her about his silly accident at the gas station. Of course she bought it!

That was me! lol. works everytime!

 

[SexB]

If the incall is a hotel, just walk in like you're supposed to be there. If it's in a condo with a concierge, most of the time, they won't even give you a second glance, if you got buzzed in, they'll just assume you're cool to be there. I went to a downtown condo recently and the security staff just nodded at me and went back to whatever he was doing.

If not, just tell them you're there to see a friend in whatever the suite number is.

If it's possible, try to leave by a side entrance. Most of the time, again, the concierge won't even look up from what they're doing. If they question you, just tell them your friend wasn't finished getting ready or they had to deal with a minor work emergency and you have reservations in half an hour. You're just going ahead to make sure you don't lose your table.

 

[Davis]

Escorts can usually tell if the call is coming from an app...some won’t book unless the call comes from a “real” phone.

How are they able to tell that the call is coming from an app?

 

[bebe]

Many agencies don't take bookings or calls from text apps, I believe. Otherwise, this would be ideal.

Makes sense to me. Helps to stop the blacklisted guys from seeing girls that banned them

Over the years girls have told me blacklisted guys will use a new burner phone or an app to sidestep being blacklisted. Once an asshole always an asshole

 

[kherg007]

1. I saw an sp a couple of years ago and the dfk was quite intense, to the extent that just before I left I saw in the bathroom mirror that I was bruised under my lower lip. I immediately went to Shopper's, into the fancy cosmetics department, and had a makeup specialist help me all that was needed to hide the bruise so it would not be noticed by my wife. It took 2 or 3 products to be convincing!

2. I heard a story about a guy who saw an mpa, and had a great session, but noticed that her perfume was so strong that even the after-shower did not erase the scent. As he was going home to his wife immediately he panicked, but then had a brilliant idea. He went to a gas station, filled up his car, and, oopsy-daisy, splashed gasoline all over his hands. When he got home that's all his wife could smell, and he laughingly told her about his silly accident at the gas station. Of course she bought it!

Knew a bloke cheating on the Mrs. Actually rubbed a McDonald's burger around his neck and face to hide the perfume.

Once had a brothel stop back in Sydney with a curvy but very strong Fijian lady. She left a series of hickey bruises on around the clavicle/shoulder. Had a second date w a civie in 2 days and once I saw the unmistakable bruises in the mirror i got worried if that date went well and she saw me shirtless it might put a damper on festivities (as I'd have to explain hickies on body). Reckoned that I couldn't hide it, so I further reckoned I should blend it in. So i took a cricket bat and whacked myself on the bruise/hickey spots and created a larger, but more rectangular bruise that subsumed the smaller bruises. Thus when she asked "how was the flight?" I said on the way down to Melbourne some wanker pulled out his luggage from the overhead lockers and this big heavy bag crashed down on my shoulder. Then later, as the date bore fruit, she saw the bruise and was like "wow that must have been painful OMG look at the size of that bruise! Funny you can almost see the outline of the luggage!" LOL. Only a few more dates but did not work out.

 

[xmontrealer]

Knew a bloke cheating on the Mrs. Actually rubbed a McDonald's burger around his neck and face to hide the perfume.

Once had a brothel stop back in Sydney with a curvy but very strong Fijian lady. She left a series of hickey bruises on around the clavicle/shoulder. Had a second date w a civie in 2 days and once I saw the unmistakable bruises in the mirror i got worried if that date went well and she saw me shirtless it might put a damper on festivities (as I'd have to explain hickies on body). Reckoned that I couldn't hide it, so I further reckoned I should blend it in. So i took a cricket bat and whacked myself on the bruise/hickey spots and created a larger, but more rectangular bruise that subsumed the smaller bruises. Thus when she asked "how was the flight?" I said on the way down to Melbourne some wanker pulled out his luggage from the overhead lockers and this big heavy bag crashed down on my shoulder. Then later, as the date bore fruit, she saw the bruise and was like "wow that must have been painful OMG look at the size of that bruise! Funny you can almost see the outline of the luggage!" LOL. Only a few more dates but did not work out.

Pure genius!!

 

[waynward]

This post is about not getting caught and how you have achieved that over the years we can all use the advice and I am interested in what guys feel is risky and how they mitigate those risks so please take a minute to reply and help with the tips and tricks that have kept you under the radar.

I have been hobbying for twenty years and my greatest stresses have come from making stupid mistakes that could have led to serious consequences, I just got lucky and as a result smarter.

I have never ever used my personal cell phone to communicate anything escort related, EVER.

I have a pay as you go phone that is exclusively for hobbying best buy has them you pay as you go you can get the top-up cards at shoppers to keep them activated there is no record of your activities being sent to you in any form as there is no signup and no account associated with it, make sure the screen lock is activated with a security code so no-one can pick it up and scroll through your texts, I have found that phone in the login stage meaning someone tried to get into the phone out of curiosity.

Just imagine the scenario where you forget your phone at home one day and someone picks it up and reads, I AM AT THE HOLIDAY INN ROOM 307 AND YES I SWALLOW CUM BROUGHT YOU THE HAIRLESS HAMSTER YOU REQUESTED AND I DO ANAL SEE YOU SOON BABE!

. There are 2 scenarios you can use for this pay as you go phone, first, it is work-related and you can have it right out in the open makes sense if you are a contractor, second, hide it and never ever leave it lying around because the question of why is this phone on the table and where did it come from is a tough hoop to jump through. Many guys use their personal cell phones, which is convenient however has all kinds of shortcomings I don't think I need to point them all out just use your head, more guys have been fucked out of a marriage because they thought their personal phone was a great tool for hobbying or banging the neighbour. The second you leave that incall to delete everything off your phone.

Your wife ( Using landline or a neighbors cell ) calls you at work, Hi honey poo poo you forgot your cell phone here at home you big silly and I have to call my mom about her doctor's appointment and order her an Uber its urgent and I need to use your cell phone for the day mine is not working what is your access code?

INSERT LONG AWKWARD SILENCE,

Why the fuck wont you tell her ? well ? well ? now your fucked ,, there is no fucking good reason for not giving her that access code if you are in a normal healthy relationship and if you don't give it to her you are fucked forever because the trust flag is now on the field and she is going to become an overnight detective, you're fucked.

I have my own security sign in for my desktop, I am the administrator and there is a screen lock that activates after 60 seconds of inactivity no-one can access my account so all my favourites and saved info using the browser are off-limits and if someone did figure out my sign in, the browser such as Firefox? it is removed from the home page, the toolbar, and the start menu, and is hidden in a subfolder buried deep in my system registry so if someone did get to my home page, there is nothing there that is in any way incriminating. I also changed the name of the browser icon and as well the picture for it so it looks like nothing and cant be keyword searched. There is a guest account login so someone else can use my desktop but they can't access the administrative options or log in to that account without the security code and if you made that code from your birthdate and your wives or kids you are an idiot.

Making favourites can be helpful for instance, Agencies, TDL, Indies, CIMSW, Anal providers whatever, all these folders can have subfolders with the girls' name that you visited with or want to see and after you visit with them you can record your experience with them for services rates personality etc. you can also keep all this info on your tablet when you are on the move.

I cant use my personal phone for anything other than family ( so no looking at Leolist ) and if you are in that situation there is always getting a tablet with wifi that can connect to any provider such as Timmies or any major store that gives you access to the internet where you can browse discreetly when not at home. You can also use your cell phones data plan and use it as a tether for your tablet so when their is no WIFI to borrow you can stll connect to the internet. This will drain your data plan like a toilet but it works. Why do you have this tablet your wife might ask? Honey I have decided to start a diary it is private and personal and it is only for me so your wife can't say shit about it or ask to see it as well it has a security lock built into it so if you set it down and walk away from it it self locks and no-one can see what is on it, this is a great tool for dozens of reasons.

Be smart, getting caught fucking around with another woman is bad enough, getting caught fucking a prostitute carries with it a stigmatic public shaming from everyone in your life that has no bottom.

My first consideration for anyone hobbying is to really really think through how to be completely off the radar with your significant other if you have one,

So you have booked your first session with an agency girl and you are going to use Home Depot as the excuse to get out of the house, lets see how that goes?

WIFE - hey sweetie where are you going?
YOU - Uh,,,,,,Uh,,,,, Home Depot, I have to buy a piece of wood to smash myself over the head with
WIFE - Oh nice I am coming with you I want to smash your head in to
YOU - OH fuck I am booked with Heidi from West End Ladies in half an hour, OMG what do I do now?
WIFE - What's wrong honey? lets go, we can stop at Timmies on the way there and I can get a nice hot coffee to throw in your stupid face because you didnt think this hooker fucking thing through very well did you?

Does your vehicle have GPS locator on it that your wife can search?
Does you cell phone have location services activated on it so your wife can use the find phone option and see your at the Holiday INN?
Can your wife requisition from your internet provider sites searched records for your home PC , Tablet or cell phone ?

Make sure you have thought things through very well or you will stress the fuck out and get caught.

This is my best advice to you.

LJ

Fuck me. This is allot of work. Makes seeing an SP like an episode of Impossible mission. Rather not get married and have fun without any hassel.

But good on you for outlining a pretty genius how to guide. Must be how Michengelo felt after admiring his handiwork on the Sistine Chapel. (Artist not the ninja turtle pizza dude)

 

[waynward]

Thanks for the details. Much appreciated. Twenty years of concealing your hobby is a wealth of experience to share.

Pay-as-you-go phone is a good idea. But for those of use who can't justify having a second "work" phone, where would you hide the phone? Maybe not good for us who can only justify a single phone.

Dual sim phones is a good idea. I'll need to look into that. Do some mainstream Android phone brands (Samsung, Huawei, etc.) have these features, or am I restricted to buying an unusual, unrecognizeable brand from Amazon or Newegg?

DaveODave: The only thing is that some providers don't accept texts from those anonymous apps. what has been your experience with this?

I'm not married but I got a burner phone back in 2014 when they started amending the law to disconnect my trail.

That's when I knew shit was real. And I was committed to this lifestyle.