NSA leaks changing way terrorists doing business, intelligence sources say

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Notice the last point, this would clearly qualify as treason.....

NSA leaks changing way terrorists doing business, intelligence sources say

(CBS News) U.S. intelligence sources say there have already been consequences to National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden's actions, and it is changing the way terrorists do business.

Snowden, who leaked details of two U.S. surveillance programs, is said to now be holed-up in a Moscow airport. He is believed to be spending yet another day in the transit zone where he's been in a holding pattern since requesting asylum in Ecuador.

On Wednesday, Ecuador's foreign minister said it could take up to two months before Ecuador decides if it will grant Snowden's appeal, so his original plan to fly to Cuba and then on to Ecuador may now be in doubt.

Meanwhile, the U.S. is continuing to push Russia to expel Snowden so he can be returned to face criminal charges.

While a prosecution is uncertain, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said there's no question the leaks have been damaging. He said, "Make no mistake, this violation of our laws was a serious security breach."

Intelligence sources say al Qaeda and other terror groups are already taking advantage of the leaks by avoiding Internet sites terrorists now know the NSA is monitoring.

Philip Mudd, a former CIA analyst, said that when U.S. sources and methods are revealed terrorists, like the former head of al Qaeda, change how they communicate. Mudd said, "Bin Laden was tipped off that we had his satellite phone, and he went off the net."

But the U.S. also alters its security measures in response to changing terrorist tactics. "In the short term, there is going to be a problem because they're going to read the newspapers, they are going to study up, and they're going to change activity," Mudd said. "But in the long term, I think the U.S. intelligence community is going to have the strategic advantage. We'll find them, and we'll hunt them down."

The NSA is still working to understand the full scope of the damage caused by the leaks, CBS News' Bob Orr reported. It's believed that Snowden took more than 200 files, and officials fear that all of that has been compromised and lost to foreign intelligence services.
 

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Snowden is quite the hero all right. Well to terrorists and fuji at least.
 

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Snowden is quite the hero all right. Well to terrorists and fuji at least.
The story is just part of the orchestrated smear campaign that the intelligence agencies are running against Snowden and you are just gullible enough to fall for it.

Al Qaeda has always taken sophisticated precautions against electronic interception.

It is ordinary citizens who were being spied on. Not terrorists.
 

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The story is just part of the orchestrated smear campaign that the intelligence agencies are running against Snowden and you are just gullible enough to fall for it.

Al Qaeda has always taken sophisticated precautions against electronic interception.

It is ordinary citizens who were being spied on. Not terrorists.
This is as ignorant as something Pekkkr would say....
 

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This is as ignorant as something Pekkkr would say....
bottie....
Being a tech challenged fanbol, it is NOT surprising this tech stuff goes right over your lil pea pickin' brain!....:rolleyes:
 

toguy5252

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It is ordinary citizens who were being spied on. Not terrorists.
Do you mean ordinary citizens like the Tsarnaev brothers?

So lets see, the POTUS is plotting against the citizens, the Congress which has been fully informed as to the program is plotting against the citizens, the courts cannot be trusted, the intelligence agencies cannot be trusted, the FISA courts cannot be trusted. Therefore we should rely on Ed Snowden for the truth.

OK. I get it now.
 

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This is untrue. On the other thread I posted video of the director of intelligence lying to congress about the program. Congress was NOT fully informed.
So I should add Diane Feinstein to the list of conspirators in your world as well?
 

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So I should add Diane Feinstein to the list of conspirators in your world as well?
Did she lie to congress?

But certainly we can conclude that congressional oversight was entirely ineffective in this case. She certainly can be held to account for that.
 

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Of course US government agencies lie to congress , it's happened for years. Re: Pentagon Papers, more recentely so called WMD that Saddam Husein was supposed to have. etc.
 

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This is untrue. On the other thread I posted video of the director of intelligence lying to congress about the program. Congress was NOT fully informed.
And I posted a quote from Two Senators saying every member has been briefed.
 

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And I posted a quote from Two Senators saying every member has been briefed.
Briefed on what? Apparently not the truth!

Look you owe me an apology. You can blather on all you want but you ought to acknowledge that video of the director lying is video of the director lying.
 

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Do you mean ordinary citizens like the Tsarnaev brothers?
The government has been spying on us for 5 years without us knowing so they can stop terrorists, yet these two get through and blow up a marathon. What's the point of the government spying then? To make it easier for a Russian or Chinese spy to get everyone's information by putting it all in one place?
 

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The government has been spying on us for 5 years without us knowing so they can stop terrorists, yet these two get through and blow up a marathon. What's the point of the government spying then? To make it easier for a Russian or Chinese spy to get everyone's information by putting it all in one place?
In fact the programme was set up in a such a way that it by definition could not have caught the Boston bombers so the claims about this being to stop terrorism are a little ridiculous.
 
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