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You know what? I am grateful every day that I live in Canada,,,,,seriously. My Brother would not be alive if my family had not emigrated to Canada from England back in 76, and my Son would most likely not be alive either. I thank God every day that I live in this Country.
Thank you hon, I will check out both of those sites. I have made it my mission to learn as much as possible about this, my Daughter is stressed obviously but does not have the internet so it is up to me to learn and educate her. I am sorry to hear about your condition babe, and thankful that you are still here with us.
Thank you hon, I just sent my Daughter a message and told her to ask that the baby be brought here to Sick Kids if she does need the surgery.
So am I to assume that the medication is to help take the stress off the heart and thus perhaps it might heal itself? Is that right?
They discovered the murmur before she was even born but felt it just needed monitoring for the time being, apparently her heart has become enlarged recently,,,,,she has always had slight breathing problems also, a gurgling in her chest that was being monitored also.
From the Medhelp site
First I did a little looking and it seems it is common in infants as it is s symptom NOT a condition I found the following and from there if I were you I would go to the "ask a Doctor" forum ....specialist from all over the world contriobute there you may want to ask the same question in multpile areas eg. cadiology AND neonatal care
here is the definition I found
First I did a little looking and it seems it is common in infants as it is s symptom NOT a condition I found the following and from there if I were you I would go to the "ask a Doctor" forum ....specialist from all over the world contriobute there you may want to ask the same question in multpile areas eg. cadiology AND neonatal care
here is the definition I found
Definition
Murmurs are blowing, whooshing, or rasping sounds produced by turbulent blood flow through the heart valves or near the heart.
Alternative Names
Chest sounds - murmurs; Heart sounds - abnormal
Considerations
A doctor can check heart sounds by listening with a stethoscope. These sounds can be further tested with an echocardiogram to find the exact cause of the murmur.
The heart has four chambers -- two upper chambers (atria) and two lower chambers (ventricles). The heart has valves that temporarily close to limit blood flow to only one direction. The valves are located between the atria and ventricles, and between the ventricles and the major vessels from the heart.
Normal heart sounds are called S1 and S2. They are the "lubb-dupp" sounds that are thought of as the heartbeat. These sounds occur when the heart valves close.
Because the heart is also divided into a "right side" and a "left side," sometimes these sounds may be somewhat divided. Most commonly noted is a "split S2," caused when the right and left ventricles relax, and valves close at very slightly different times. This is normal, but occasionally the nature of the split can indicate an abnormality, such as enlargement of one of the ventricles.
Murmurs occur when a valve does not close tightly (such as with mitral regurgitation) and blood leaks backward, or when the blood flows through a narrowed or stiff valve (such as with aortic stenosis).
A murmur does not necessarily indicate a disease or disorder, and not all heart disorders cause murmurs. Murmurs are classified ("graded") depending on their ability to be heard by the examiner. The grading is on a scale in which grade I is barely detectable. An example of a murmur description is a "grade II/VI murmur." (This means the murmur is grade 2 on a scale of 1 to 6).In addition, a murmur is described by the stage of the heartbeat when the murmur is heard.
The following are important clues to the cause of the murmur:
Does the murmur occur in the resting stage (diastole) or contracting stage (systole)?
Does it occur early or late in the stage?
Does it occur throughout the heartbeat?
For example, a presystolic murmur is heard just BEFORE systole and is usually caused by narrowing of the mitral or tricuspid valve (the valves between the atria and the ventricles).
The location where the health care provider hears the murmur loudest is also often noted.
Murmurs are blowing, whooshing, or rasping sounds produced by turbulent blood flow through the heart valves or near the heart.
Alternative Names
Chest sounds - murmurs; Heart sounds - abnormal
Considerations
A doctor can check heart sounds by listening with a stethoscope. These sounds can be further tested with an echocardiogram to find the exact cause of the murmur.
The heart has four chambers -- two upper chambers (atria) and two lower chambers (ventricles). The heart has valves that temporarily close to limit blood flow to only one direction. The valves are located between the atria and ventricles, and between the ventricles and the major vessels from the heart.
Normal heart sounds are called S1 and S2. They are the "lubb-dupp" sounds that are thought of as the heartbeat. These sounds occur when the heart valves close.
Because the heart is also divided into a "right side" and a "left side," sometimes these sounds may be somewhat divided. Most commonly noted is a "split S2," caused when the right and left ventricles relax, and valves close at very slightly different times. This is normal, but occasionally the nature of the split can indicate an abnormality, such as enlargement of one of the ventricles.
Murmurs occur when a valve does not close tightly (such as with mitral regurgitation) and blood leaks backward, or when the blood flows through a narrowed or stiff valve (such as with aortic stenosis).
A murmur does not necessarily indicate a disease or disorder, and not all heart disorders cause murmurs. Murmurs are classified ("graded") depending on their ability to be heard by the examiner. The grading is on a scale in which grade I is barely detectable. An example of a murmur description is a "grade II/VI murmur." (This means the murmur is grade 2 on a scale of 1 to 6).In addition, a murmur is described by the stage of the heartbeat when the murmur is heard.
The following are important clues to the cause of the murmur:
Does the murmur occur in the resting stage (diastole) or contracting stage (systole)?
Does it occur early or late in the stage?
Does it occur throughout the heartbeat?
For example, a presystolic murmur is heard just BEFORE systole and is usually caused by narrowing of the mitral or tricuspid valve (the valves between the atria and the ventricles).
The location where the health care provider hears the murmur loudest is also often noted.
you did not say where she was, there are a number of extreamly good hospitals for children around canada and the province for that matter. The best bet is to stay close to the treatment team and follow what they want to do. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Also don't get addicted to online help, our thaoughts and wishes are with you but the guy on the ground generally has the best answers, our opinions may help but they are for the most part opinions .
FYI KIngston London and Ottawa have very highly rated childrens hospitals, and the fact that the doctors were monitoring this prior to birth is a good thing as far as the situation is concerned, they now about it and have a plan it was not a surprise to them.
FYI KIngston London and Ottawa have very highly rated childrens hospitals, and the fact that the doctors were monitoring this prior to birth is a good thing as far as the situation is concerned, they now about it and have a plan it was not a surprise to them.
I have no personal knowledge but I used to go there (mac) and cook a huge lunch for the growing children and parents that were their success stories families had nohing but GREAT comments ...as I said I have no first hand experience with the care there but I am sure that, sadly, every unit will have had sad dtories as well ...mine is a niece lost at sick childrens at three months but GREAT care while she was there and the catre my sisters family got was incredible...I still would not put ANY unit down
I have raised thousands of dollars all across Canada for Children's units maybe even north of the millions mark and heard the most heart wrenching stories but also the stories of GREAT joy and always were recieved well as everyone opens wallets wide for childhood diseases
Landscaper is right in saying not to get addicted to online help but PLEASE educate yourself as well as you can ....not here in this forum that is my point ....as you can see even on this opinions vary
Godbless
I have raised thousands of dollars all across Canada for Children's units maybe even north of the millions mark and heard the most heart wrenching stories but also the stories of GREAT joy and always were recieved well as everyone opens wallets wide for childhood diseases
Landscaper is right in saying not to get addicted to online help but PLEASE educate yourself as well as you can ....not here in this forum that is my point ....as you can see even on this opinions vary
Godbless
I think it is important to remember that having a heart murmur in a young baby is not particularly unusual. Every baby should have a murmur when they are born, and the hole in the heart should close itself. The medications are to help encourage this natural process by adjusting the pressure levels in the heart, and encouraging the natural healing process (which is driven by pressure differentials and some basic chemistry.) Also, if surgery is required, this is relatively safe heart surgery (in the spectrum of heart surgery).
The entire condition, causes, results and problems are significantly different than having the same condition as an adult, or even as an older child, like a teenager.
The entire condition, causes, results and problems are significantly different than having the same condition as an adult, or even as an older child, like a teenager.
Thank you SO much Daty, I am taking your suggestion and reading as much as I can about this.
I do not have all the information as I am getting it second hand from my Daughter but I do plan on going to see them this month and will be getting a few more details that will help in research. I do know that they are planning to send the little one to Sick Kids here in T.O. so I will be able to actually speak to the Doctors myself.
I do not have all the information as I am getting it second hand from my Daughter but I do plan on going to see them this month and will be getting a few more details that will help in research. I do know that they are planning to send the little one to Sick Kids here in T.O. so I will be able to actually speak to the Doctors myself.
Others have offered very good advise , but I'll add one of my brothers kids had heart issues when he was about 1.5 and now at 7 has grown out of it, and is fine. Seems to be a somewhat common thing in small children.
so, the update.....the baby will be taking medications to try and reduce stress on the heart as well as thin the blood for the next two months. If she shows improvement then this will continue, if not, she will be coming to Sick Kids. Either way, we have all settled down thanks largely to the comments, links and advice I received on this thread. Thank You I will keep you posted.
