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OneDrive on Windows is such a pain in the ass. It's like they hold your shit hostage, "pay us or we're not going to let you have your files". Such a crappy product.
Glad I had backups, I uninstalled that shit last night and freed my computer from that garbage. Watch out, Bill is after your money and he's holding a gun to your head for it, not the first time he's done something like this on a global scale.

I'm not the only one that sees it that way lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/onedrive/comments/q5v6i0
https://www.reddit.com/r/onedrive/comments/bd4min
https://www.reddit.com/r/onedrive/comments/476418

I need to start looking into Linux and which distros are stable and simple, so many out there.

Rant over lol
 

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Na, I'd rather have it on a harddrive offline than in the "cloud" and having to pay for it. The BS started when I stopped syncing files and wanted to copy the ones in the "cloud" offline.
Read some of the reddits above, it'll explain the nonsense better, interesting username though, it fits I guess. lol
 

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Na, I'd rather have it on a harddrive offline than in the "cloud" and having to pay for it. The BS started when I stopped syncing files and wanted to copy the ones in the "cloud" offline.
Read some of the reddits above, it'll explain the nonsense better, interesting username though, it fits I guess. lol
I'm not much of a computer guy... I know I spent a lot of money on my private Western Digital home set-up. 4 Red Drives in RAID, blah, blah, blah. The shit didn't work an ultimately failed.

I'm staring at it now sitting on my floor... I'm too afraid to throw it out because I cannot guarantee the files can be wiped from it.
 
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I never bothered with a RAID setup, my friend kept going on about it himself, never did it either.
I did a simple backup on a small terabyte drive, been going on 5 years now, all is good with the files. OneDrive was just me being pedantic after getting annoyed that it wouldn't let me move one folder off to another backup drive, then all hell broke loose.

My suggestion, smash the shit out of your drives, or take it apart, keep the magnets and snap the actual disks. Problem solved.
 
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Were you really expecting a company to keep your files forever for free? Would you even trust a company or friend that had a free option? All of the options like One Drive, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc want you to pay for storage.

USB drives are ridiculously cheap these days so cloud backup is unnecessary unless you must have access from more than one device. Even then, you can always bring a drive with you in your bag. Or you need to purge your porn collection 😆 You can also unplug a USB drive and keep it in a drawer, safety deposit box, etc.

You're right though that smashing a drive is a good way to wipe the data on them. Keep in mind that the spinning hard drives are slightly tougher to destroy as there's more metal in them. With SSDs, you'd have to be sure to destroy each memory chip.
 

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Were you really expecting a company to keep your files forever for free? Would you even trust a company or friend that had a free option? All of the options like One Drive, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc want you to pay for storage.

USB drives are ridiculously cheap these days so cloud backup is unnecessary unless you must have access from more than one device. Even then, you can always bring a drive with you in your bag. Or you need to purge your porn collection 😆 You can also unplug a USB drive and keep it in a drawer, safety deposit box, etc.

You're right though that smashing a drive is a good way to wipe the data on them. Keep in mind that the spinning hard drives are slightly tougher to destroy as there's more metal in them. With SSDs, you'd have to be sure to destroy each memory chip.
I would suggest to use reliable archival optical media for critical files. They are more reliable than solid state or mechanical media. I have had more than one solid state drive/flash media fail irretrievably on me. Even magnetic tapes are better in this respect.
 

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I would suggest to use reliable archival optical media for critical files. They are more reliable than solid state or mechanical media. I have had more than one solid state drive/flash media fail irretrievably on me. Even magnetic tapes are better in this respect.
In this day and age media reliability is very high while also cheap. Fash media, hard drives and solid state disks do rarely fail, but should also be fine if left unplugged in a drawer. You have to be careful with optical disks as they can scratched. Magetic tapes do have a lot of storage space, but they take a very long time to write and read files to them. Also, the drive and tapes have moving parts that can fail as well as the tape.

No matter what type of media you use, you still need a computer to read the files. The connector standards like like USB, M.2, SATA, etc. and their associated software will change over time making it harder and harder to use your devices. The only workaround is to keep a CD drive, external hard drive enclosure with multiple connectors, external tape drive, etc. and hope you can keep using them in the future.

If you need absolute data resiliency, then you'd also have to store your media off-site in case of flood, fire, power failure, etc.That's a clear benefit of using cloud storage because your files are stored in multiple servers in different regions.
 

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In this day and age media reliability is very high while also cheap. Fash media, hard drives and solid state disks do rarely fail, but should also be fine if left unplugged in a drawer. You have to be careful with optical disks as they can scratched. Magetic tapes do have a lot of storage space, but they take a very long time to write and read files to them. Also, the drive and tapes have moving parts that can fail as well as the tape.

No matter what type of media you use, you still need a computer to read the files. The connector standards like like USB, M.2, SATA, etc. and their associated software will change over time making it harder and harder to use your devices. The only workaround is to keep a CD drive, external hard drive enclosure with multiple connectors, external tape drive, etc. and hope you can keep using them in the future.

If you need absolute data resiliency, then you'd also have to store your media off-site in case of flood, fire, power failure, etc.That's a clear benefit of using cloud storage because your files are stored in multiple servers in different regions.
All good points. I guess the best solution would be to store data on two different formats. That is what I have done with sentimental family videos, hard drive, original tapes, and optical media (M-Rock disks).
 
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All good points. I guess the best solution would be to store data on two different formats. That is what I have done with sentimental family videos, hard drive, original tapes, and optical media (M-Rock disks).
Sadly, there isn't a "best" solution because they all have tradeoffs. You could use multiple formats like DVD, tapes, hard drives, etc, but that's a lot of extra work.

Can't say I've heard of M-Rock discs. Were you thinking of magneto-optical discs? Can you still buy those discs and drives?
 
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Sadly, there isn't a "best" solution because they all have tradeoffs. You could use multiple formats like DVD, tapes, hard drives, etc, but that's a lot of extra work.

Can't say I've heard of M-Rock discs. Were you thinking of magneto-optical discs? Can you still buy those discs and drives?
Sorry, I meant M Disc. Yes, optical media are available, as are drives. Look at Canada Computers, B&H Photo in New York (online sales), and other entities. Life is not all solid state drives and flash media. An LG Blu-ray drive that can burn 100 to 128 GB Blu ray discs can be had for $100 to $150.
 
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Sorry, I meant M Disc. Yes, optical media are available, as are drives. Look at Canada Computers, B&H Photo in New York (online sales), and other entities. Life is not all solid state drives and flash media. An LG Blu-ray drive that can burn 100 to 128 GB Blu ray discs can be had for $100 to $150.
You can buy a 240GB SSD for less than $60 or a 128GB MicroSD card for less than $40.

It's time to let optical go.
 

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Sorry, I meant M Disc. Yes, optical media are available, as are drives. Look at Canada Computers, B&H Photo in New York (online sales), and other entities. Life is not all solid state drives and flash media. An LG Blu-ray drive that can burn 100 to 128 GB Blu ray discs can be had for $100 to $150.
This is the first time I've heard of M-Discs. At least the discs can be written on and read back by most Blu-ray or DVD writers. Sure, life isn't about any one solution. You have to pick what works for you and be able to pivot if the technology gets replaced like: Iomega Zip / Jaz discs, CDRW, etc.
 
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You can buy a 240GB SSD for less than $60 or a 128GB MicroSD card for less than $40.

It's time to let optical go.
It depends on your use case. If you're storing critical files that you cannot afford to lose like health, legal, financial, etc. then optical might be a better option. You'd also need to keep a spare drive somewhere if and when you need to access those files. Drives and adapters are widely available today, but you can't count on that.
 
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This is the first time I've heard of M-Discs. At least the discs can be written on and read back by most Blu-ray or DVD writers. Sure, life isn't about any one solution. You have to pick what works for you and be able to pivot if the technology gets replaced like: Iomega Zip / Jaz discs, CDRW, etc.
 
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