Oops Robby did it again!

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http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2014/05/09/rob_ford_really_in_rehab_cbc_confirms.html

Don't forget how many awards they won for excellent journalism on the Ford case.
It was so popular that Doolittle got headhunted away from the Star to the Globe.

After all, every single one of their stories on Ford turned out correct exposing Ford as the lying crackhead he is.
 

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Yup, they devoted a couple of articles to it.
Understatment of the century. The Star is the one that investigated and broke those stories. Had Star investigators not gone digging, those stories may never have come to light. To say they wrote "a couple of stories" is just completely dishonest and somewhat slimy. A more honest, respectable person would give credit where it is due.

You should retract your claim that the Star only investigates people on the right, given the large number of stories that you take great joy in recounting, all of which you know about only because of Star investigative journalism. Either that or at least be consistent in your denials of reality -- never, ever cite the Layton/Chow co-op housing story, the eHealth or ORANG fiascos, etc., or any other story which you know about only because the Star sent reporters digging to find it for you.

You do understand that when I say the Star broke those stories, that no other paper had those stories until Star investigators broke them, right?

Here, follow my lead, admit facts which with you recently disagreed, I'll show you how:

I see that the CBC is confirming he is really in rehab and he has been there since May 1st. Great. I believe that. Now hopefully he will stay there for another six months or so.
 

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"I'm the most racist guy around"

Saturday's Star:





Ford has two ways of communicating as he drives — his cellular phone and his Onstar device, a General Motors product that acts as a cellphone. During one call as he drives that night, Ford is recorded as saying the following about Jews, blacks and Italians:
“Nobody sticks up for people like I do, every fucking kike, nigger, fucking wop, dago, whatever the race. Nobody does. I’m the most racist guy around. I’m the mayor of Toronto.”
On a roll, Ford continues to spew invective that may be the worst published yet. At one point he makes a rude comment about his mother.
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Ford eventually pulls into a park near his home in Etobicoke, according to an account of the evening. Lisi arrives, driving his black Range Rover. (Lisi is facing drug trafficking and extortion charges in connection with an alleged attempt to retrieve the embarrassing crack video. No accomplice has been charged. The Star reported recently that at another late-night event, Ford pummelled Lisi, his friend, until Lisi cried.)
According to an account of the evening, drugs are present as the men meet in the park. An hour passes. Ford and Bellissimo drive to Ford’s home, with Lisi in tow driving his Range Rover. From here on, there is no known audio recording of the night.
The front walkway to the Ford house leads to a modest front door. At about 10 p.m. that night, Ford and his pals arrive. Ford has a bag of McDonald’s food in his hand. Ford jiggles the front door and then kicks the door open. He, Lisi, Bellissimo and another man step in.
“Don’t worry guys, my kids aren’t here,” Ford says.
For no apparent reason, Ford turns on Bellissimo and hits him squarely in the face twice — boom, boom — forgetting that he has a bagful of Big Macs in his hand. Burgers and fries scatter. Ford makes Bellissimo pick them up.
Down the stairs they go. Ford’s wife Renata is on the couch, a tired lounger that has been described to the Star by paramedics and firefighters who have attended calls at the house over the past two years. Renata is smoking a joint.
“You’re a fucking idiot,” Renata says.
Enraged, Ford rummages for his Don Bosco coaching jacket. “It’s where I keep my weed,” he tells people in the room. Ford turns on his wife, screaming that she has taken his drugs. Standing there quietly are Lisi and Bellissimo.
To a visitor, Ford says, almost offhanded, “You can fuck her if you want, in front of me.”
Nobody speaks. The comment is ignored by Ford’s wife. Men in the room are shocked.
“It’s okay,” Ford burbles. “She lets me fuck girls in front of her all the time.”

Eyes flicked upward, to the rest of the house.
“It’s okay, my kids are not home,” Ford repeats.
For the next two hours Ford never stops moving. He paces the dingy room, back and forth. Lisi says little, checking his phone from time to time.
Ford drinks and smokes a joint. He speaks Jamaican patois, reminiscent of his turn at the Steak Queen restaurant in January, another night when he was out in north Etobicoke with Lisi.
Still popping back and forth, Ford invites people to punch him. “I’m jacked,” Ford tells the men as he flexes his muscles.
 

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The CBC article demonstrates that both Rob and Doug were lying to Joe Warmington. Because at the time Ford said rehab is "amazing" and "like being at football camp", he'd only been in rehab for less than a day, and was actually in the hospital, not 'working out and losing weight'.

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Yup. Having been used by the Fords, the Sun's Warmington has zero credibility left. The Fords and their mouthpiece are a joke, and deserve to be laughed at. Along with everyone else still supporting what's left of their political careers.

Also interesting is that rather than threatening to sue the Star for slander, all Doug could answer back with was, "“It’s not good what they said happened but I don’t want to go back to the past. I need to focus on the future and getting my brother the help he needs." Like that's any sort of excuse.
 

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Yes. The Star has investigated and brought down governments and politicians on all sides.

The stories you were citing up thread, which paper do you think broke them?

Which paper broke the story about Chow and Layton living in coop housing?

Which paper broke the e health scandal?

Which one broke the ORANG story?
And why is The Star not camping out in front of Mazza's and Smitherman's house demanding they be in jail?? And why didnt they demand Smitherman not be able to run for mayor in 2010?? And why didnt The Star follow Smitherman around all day long when he was running for mayor to see if he was clean from his hard-drug problem?? His husband sure wasnt clean, and two birds of a feather stick together

Why fuji??

You do understand that when I say the Star broke those stories, that no other paper had those stories until Star investigators broke them, right?
I do give them credit for that. Thats excellent journalism.

They did not however follow through on it, they shouldve demanded Mazza and Smitherman be arrested to stop these types of things in the future, and send a message that billion dollar govt corruption wont be tolerated anymore

I see that the CBC is confirming he is really in rehab and he has been there since May 1st. Great. I believe that. Now hopefully he will stay there for another six months or so
Right, so how accurate is that Star story now that Ford was out partying all this time??
 

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And why is The Star not camping out in front of Mazza's and Smitherman's house demanding they be in jail??
You know that the only reason why you know about the shenanigans Mazza was up to was because the Star sent in gumshoes to dig out the dirt. The Star absolutely hounded Mazza and the resulting stories destroyed Smitherman's political credibility. That and eHealth were both the Star's doing.

Seems like there is a basic disconnect between reality and your conception of it. Time for you to reevaluate your incorrect beliefs lest you suffer a more complete break with reality.

And why didnt they demand
You are failing to grasp the difference between opinion and news. The demands you are talking about are OPINION statements. The Star is firmly left in opinion pieces.

It is the new desk, which is organizationally firewalled from the editorial department, that reports objectively without bias.

Your problem is that you are used to "papers" like the Sun where there is no professionalism and no separation between the editorial desk and the news desk, as there is at respectable papers.
 

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You know that the only reason why you know about the shenanigans Mazza was up to was because the Star sent in gumshoes to dig out the dirt. The Star absolutely hounded Mazza and the resulting stories destroyed Smitherman's political credibility. That and eHealth were both the Star's doing.

Seems like there is a basic disconnect between reality and your conception of it. Time for you to reevaluate your incorrect beliefs lest you suffer a more complete break with reality.



You are failing to grasp the difference between opinion and news. The demands you are talking about are OPINION statements. The Star is firmly left in opinion pieces.

It is the new desk, which is organizationally firewalled from the editorial department, that reports objectively without bias.

Your problem is that you are used to "papers" like the Sun where there is no professionalism and no separation between the editorial desk and the news desk, as there is at respectable papers
You didnt answer any of my questions, fuji. I asked why The Star didnt go after Mazza and Smitherman with the same fervor as they did with Rob Ford. Why didnt the Star demand they both be arrested??

Why, did you hear rumours of them doing crack with gang members?
Where do you think Smitherman got his illegal drugs from?? From his local corner store??
 

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What illegal drugs do you accuse Smitherman of using, and what evidence do you have?
He admitted to being a junkie. Try to keep up with the news.

Although he claims to have been cured form his addiction (yeah right)
 

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He admitted to being a junkie. Try to keep up with the news.

Although he claims to have been cured form his addiction (yeah right)
Junkie implies heroin, but the reports say alcohol and party drugs.

Difference is that he volunteered the info and says its in the past.
Has there been a single report of him being stoned, drunk or slurring words in public?
Maybe you should follow him to the gay clubs (if he goes anymore) and see if you can catch him in action.
 

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Junkie implies heroin, but the reports say alcohol and party drugs
Uhm, no. Junkie can mean crack, heroin, cocaine, meth and even prescribed pain-killers.
The list of people who died from just pain pills is a long one.

Anyways, you guys are all missing my point. Yes Robbie ford is an addict, yes he's an alcoholic, yes he's a lot of things. The one thing he's not and thats someone who will have his hands in the taxpayers cookie jar.

The Star never really went after Smitherman personally over eHealth. They never went after Mazza for Ornge either.
Why did they go after Ford so hard, its because he's right-wing and they despise him on a personal level.

Why do I think this is unfair, its because eHealth cost us over 1 billion, and Ornge cost us in the tens of million$. Why doesnt the Red Star camp out at Smitherman's and Mazza's house and demand they be in jail for ripping us off??

They would be doing the taxpayers a great service if they did, because when the next government fleecers come along they'll think twice before they open up their slush funds
 

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Anyways, you guys are all missing my point. Yes Robbie ford is an addict, yes he's an alcoholic, yes he's a lot of things. The one thing he's not and thats someone who will have his hands in the taxpayers cookie jar.
And your basing that on his word?
Thats a big assumption for a lying, cheating crackhead.
 

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from last night's Saturday Night Live:

"Ford said rehab was just like football camp, because both were things he wanted to quit before finishing 12 steps."


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And your basing that on his word?
Thats a big assumption for a lying, cheating crackhead.
AK-47 is either deliberately lying, or deliberately ignorant (which are the only ways to continue supporting Ford, really).

Ford has had his hand in taxpayers pockets his entire political career. Misuse of CH resources for his personal interests. I mean, as far as I can tell, the political career has been Ford's cover and mask for the reality of his thug life.
Also, making up a job title to put his friend David Price on the city's payroll. $120,000/pa to do nothing.

And the Star has "gone after Mazza" and ORNGE. They have an entire section in their Investigations folder on it. The case is now being investigated by OPP so there's not much more they can do until it gets to court, but the Star reports every time there is news concerning both Mazza and ORNGE.

http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/ornge.html

But all of this talk about ORNGE or whatever else is AK-47's attempt to derail the thread's focus off of Ford, because there's no rational way to continue excusing his racist, sexist, homophobic, abusive words and deeds.
 

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You didnt answer any of my questions, fuji. I asked why The Star didnt go after Mazza and Smitherman with the same fervor as they did with Rob Ford.
They did. Very clearly, they were all over that story.

Why didnt the Star demand they both be arrested??
That is editorial, not news desk. Reread my post above until you finally comprehend the difference between news and editorial.
 

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They did. Very clearly, they were all over that story
They did?? The Star camped out at Smitherman's and Mazza's house to pursuade cops to arrest them??

I must have missed that

That is editorial, not news desk. Reread my post above until you finally comprehend the difference between news and editorial
Would you get out of here with that bullshit!! Smitherman's missing billion dollars is most definitely news, has nothing to do with "editorial", and shouldve be investigated much deeper then it was.

I dont recall Chief Bill Blair sending airplanes around Smitherman's house to see what he's up to
 
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While the terms are wrong, to use the term "possible inattention" when it came to 1 billion on E-Health and the criminal goings on at Orge is atkin to stating Ford just "lost track" of the number of drinks he was having......
I'll certainly agree no one poured the liquor down Ford's throat, or filled his veins with cocaine alkaloids. But the eHealth consultants —who stole/embezzled nothing I've heard of—weren't under the Minister's supervision, they worked for one of those semi-privatized independents that Hudak and Co like so much. Same with Mazza, and his even clumsier "profit-taking".

If we want Ministers to be never sleeping watchdogs constantly prying into every contract and expense,m we're going to need a lot bigger swivel service. Or wait, and wait and wait for some for-profit guy to come up with an air ambulance service, fund it, get it off the ground, then soak us for his sole-supplier contract. Same with electronic medical records, which still cost us half what Americans pay for admin costs.

Never forgetting that eHealth was born, and given that arm's-length status when Tim Hudak was an Ontario Cabinet Minister, But I won't call him or Harris embezzlers for not doing it better.
 

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They did?? The Star camped out at Smitherman's and Mazza's house to pursuade cops to arrest them??
There you go again confusing editorial with news. "Persuade" is editorial. Try and get this right for once.

The Star ran the Mazza story in the *news* section as a high priority story that got a ton of coverage for weeks on end. If you missed it, your loss -- it was good reading. Subscribe to the Star and you won't miss out next time.

Would you get out of here with that bullshit!!
Serious media outlets take the difference between editorial and news pretty fucking seriously. That you read non-serious rags that don't is your problem, and no doubt why you are failing hard to get the editorial vs news concept.

At real newspapers, whether the Star or the New York Times, the editorial desk and the news desk are firewalled off from one another. They don't work together. They don't share notes. They work hard to keep the two sections very separate so that no hint of editorial bias creeps into their news reporting.

This is why the Star, a paper that is famous for its strong left wing editorial news slant, nevertheless from an investigative perspective has repeatedly brought down center-left and left wing political candidates and parties just as frequently and with the same vigour as it has gone after right wing candidates.

Of course, being a Sun reader, this concept is just completely alien to you -- at non-serious papers like the Sun there is no real distinction between editorial and news, and in fact, the entire paper could be described as being "for entertainment purposes only", and better understood as a work of fiction than as a newspaper.

Smitherman's missing billion dollars is most definitely news, has nothing to do with "editorial", and shouldve be investigated much deeper then it was.
And which paper investigated it deeper than the Star? So far as I know, the Star is the only paper that dug into the dirt and got the details on that story. Whatever you know about it, you ultimately know about because of the Star, and because of political led investigations that kicked off once the Star blew the lid off it.

I dont recall Chief Bill Blair sending airplanes around Smitherman's house to see what he's up to
Why would they? Smitherman isn't a drug user. Not since the 1990's. He has been quite open about his long ago troubles with substance abuse, for which he sought and received treatment. There is no suggestion anywhere that I have seen that he is still involved with drugs, and certainly no suggestion that he is cavorting with street criminals and frequenting crack houses.
 

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So fuji, Ford taking drugs is editorial news, while billion dollar Smitherman rip-offs are not editorial??!

How the fuck do you dream this nonsense up.....LOL??!! :rolleyes:
 
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