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Wie is still young, 20, and has won twice now. I think she's been humbled and learned her lesson on arrogance.

QB's rarely would through Deions way, nuff said.
 
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Your kidding right?
Actually i'm not. 22 had the luxury of always running behind 4 pro bowler o-line every year. Man, half the time his o-line would create such a huuge hole that any top 5 RB would be able to put up those great number's of yards/TD's that Emmitt did. What would'ov happened if Barry Sanders had that line to run behind? Or LaDanian Tomlinson? Marshall Faulk? Brian Westbrook? Terrell Davis?
He was able to break records cus he was able to have a longer career (15 years) cus he was healthy due to his o-line creating such holes for him that he didnt get warn out physically.
Emmitt Smith won when he was surrounded by talent

Emmitt Smith good runner...... Great o-line's

If anything I give Jimmy Johnson all the credit for hand picking that entire dream team. In 93 they sent a record 11 players to the pro bowl. That team was stacked.
 

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He was able to break records cus he was able to have a longer career (15 years) cus he was healthy due to his o-line creating such holes for him that he didnt get warn out physically.
You were right up until that point - and you even forgot about Moose Johnson's role. However EVERY running back gets the holy shit kicked out of them. Emmitt was no different. In fact, his lack of elusiveness and speed, combined with the huge number of touches he had and the way he chose NOT to run out of bounds (Dickerson) or dance around/go down easily when surrounded (Sanders) made his accomplishments even more amazing, because he was hit more and harder.

Not an Emmitt Smith or Cowboys fan in the least, but to question his importance - he was the leader of that offence on gameday through his play - or just how tough he was (his biggest attribute, in my opinion) is silly.

Emmitt Smith won when he was surrounded by talent
LOL! Thanks Mr. Obvious. Name a running back - hell, a player - who won when he wasn't surrounded by talent. ;)
 

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So what? Still totally overrated.
But so is logic, reason and common sense to a guy like you... ;)

Only a douche picks on a teenage girl - which she was at the time when you and your ilk started the hatin'.

And btw, Deion Sanders is the best cover corner ever, bar none. Yeah, he was a lazy tackler in run support, but he changed every game he played in by literally shutting off one side of the field. Plus he was a great return man. Just for perspective, Revis has another 8 years before he's even in the conversation.
 

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Patrick Ewing - sure
Dirk Nowitzki - ok
Jason Kidd - wrong
Tedy Bruschi - huh?
Junior Seau - nope
Vince Carter - yup
Chris Webber - uh huh
Brett Favre - ???
Tony Romo - until he actually does something, I agree
Emmitt Smith..........yes I said it! (dealt with this)
Of those I agree with (Ewing, Carter and Webber), most are simply because they had all the tools and just didn't put it together and do all of the little things needed to be a winner.

Dirk Nowitzki is a very good player who has had a series of bad coaches and an owner who meddles too much. On the right team, I think everyone would see him in a different light.

Tony Romo was an undrafted QB out of college - anything he does is gravy. But it's annoying how the media fawns over him, given that he's done nothing. He owes Parcells his entire career.


Those I disagree with:

Jason Kidd: makes every team and teammate better. One of the only true point guards in the NBA in the last 20 years. Great passer. Great defender. Floor general who runs an incredibly efficient offence. May run the best fast break ever. Cons: Below average shooter. Drama seems to follow him.

Tedy Bruschi would have to be 'rated' to be overrated. No one ever considered him the best at his position or HOF material. Physically average, overachieving very good player and emotional defensive leader of the Pats' Super Bowl teams. Tremendous heart, as demonstrated by his coming back from a stroke.

Junior Seau was amazing in San Diego. Big, fast, strong and durable. Blew up plays before they got started. Played well vs. run and pass. Could rush the QB when needed. Cons: freelanced too much, especially early on in career.

Brett Favre, until his last couple of seasons in GB and the one year with the Jets, was one of the most durable and dynamic players ever. Found the fountain of youth last year. Had little talent around him and yet the Packers were contenders every year - 13 straight .500 or better seasons. Great leader (until recently - notice a trend.) Cons: as he became more famous, tried too hard to be the "gunslinger" and became sloppy with the football. The "will-he-or-won't-he" shit of the last 3 years is childish.


For whatever reason, you seem to undervalue durability in the NFL. Ask any coach what they want - a dynamic couple of games or 16 (+ playoffs) games year-in, year-out. 99% will choose the latter.
 

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