Ozempic Expert: They’re Lying To You About The Side Effects!

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It's actually a simple metabolic process, it's a brutally hard psychological one. This is why people can lose weight, but very few can keep it off long term, because old hobbits die hard.
You don't see any fatties in concentration camps [among those who have been there for a while, the Japanese held POWs or for that matter things like the Minnesota Starvation experiment. People are very bad at judging how many calories they take in, and yeah metabolisms vary both among people and over time but not to the extent that snake oil salesmen that infest youtube would have you believe and even if you have a harsh hand delt in life in that regard, one just has to go harder.
Sounds simple, logical and doable on paper. So is quitting smoking, jacking off, and not getting soft playing a tough battle of WoW!

Some of the less stronk mere mortals can improve their lives dramatically with a $10 a day medication.

Meh, Ozempic, I'll stick to my Crack, Meth and Heroin stack thank you very much.
Obviously! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yet some girl trying her best with eating vegies, 4 ounce portions of lean meats and exercising still stays chubby despite her hard work and discipline?
Odds are she is eating much more than she lets on. They, you know, they find this over and over again, what people self report and what they do often don't match.

If you are literally eating veggies [not potato chips] and a few 4 ounce portions of lean meats and staying chubby with exercise, and this is verified, someone should study how it's done, it would solve our energy problems.
 

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Either you are making shit up or your Doctor doesn't know what he is talking about.

I had a 10.1 fasting blood glucose and a H1aC to match, lost 50 pounds by eating less mostly, numbers went back to normal. So 1: You can lose weight with T2 and you don't need meds to control T2 for life.
You did say or in your first statement BTW.

And even if you have thyroid problems, you don't eat, you will lose weight. Your doctor if he does exist sounds like one of thee Jason Fung/Mercola bullshit artists who misrepresent the evidence either because they don't know better or as part of a grift. About half of what Dr Oz says has no evidence to back it up and a 1/6 of what he says the evidence says doesn't work. All three are actual doctors. I know someone who sees a doctor who feeds into her anti vax bullshit.

PTH and the other thyroid hormones are also affected by other metabolic hormones like "vitamin D" (which is not a vitamin, it is a hormone) . Ye you have intact vs non etc.

Cortisol and other stress hormones, asymptomatic cardiomyopathy etc can also cause general fluid retention etc.

Everyone ere already seems to know it all and have it figured out so I'll leave it to y'alls. No sense wasting more time arguing with Mitch-types.
 

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Odds are she is eating much more than she lets on. They, you know, they find this over and over again, what people self report and what they do often don't match.

If you are literally eating veggies [not potato chips] and a few 4 ounce portions of lean meats and staying chubby with exercise, and this is verified, someone should study how it's done, it would solve our energy problems.
🤷‍♂️ If you say so.
 

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Sounds simple, logical and doable on paper. So is quitting smoking, jacking off, and not getting soft playing a tough battle of WoW!

Some of the less stronk mere mortals can improve their lives dramatically with a $10 a day medication.



Obviously! :ROFLMAO:
I never said it was simple logical and doable. Junk food for me calls to me like crack.If it was easy I'd be under 200 pounds and I am not. I've done better than most but still. It's fucking hard to resist. I'm just saying if you can find a hack to do it, it is doable, it will be harder for some than others, but it is possible. There is this narrative that the fat acceptance movement [the one movement that involves no actual movement] that some people just can't lose weight no matter what, it's biochemically impossible. I'd bet dollars to sweet delicious donuts <homer slobber> that pulled a Bobby Sands they would lose weight, not that I would recommend that.

Nor am I arguing against taking meds or the knife because it is fucking difficult to diet and exercise and a serious issue the latter of which I do suffer from.

Not sure what is worse, the can't win don't try sorts or those people on the other end you give that Running Faggot from Kids in the Hall advice of, have you tried eating less and moving more. Yeah that would work obviously but the devil is in the details of how to do it and keep doing it.

Personally I find the only thing that works is to take the AA model [without the higher power bullshit] and apply it to food and treat it as the addiction that it most likely is for us tubby bitches. Problem foods need to go on the never again pile. Foods that you just can't control, or foods that set off a spiral of bad eating. What ever those foods might be.
However the prospect of never eating cake, or bacon is very hard to get your head around, much like an alchie who says they will never take another drink. Generally you will fail and have to try again and more than once.
Fuck I want a pizza right now.

There are other hacks, limit eating by dietary restriction which is similar to the above, vegans, keto etc, or limit consumption via eating windows which has no magical powers beyond calorie restriction which is shown if you read the details that fasting fanboys often share but obviously haven't read the deets on. Or maybe just hire some 300 pound muscle bound MMA dude to punch you in the face whenever you eat beyond a certain amount every day, that works well I hear.
 

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🤷‍♂️ If you say so.
It's not me who says so, it's what studies have shown.
If you think someone can eat 500 calories and exercise and not lose weight... Have you considered voting for Trump and taking advice from Andrew Taint?
 

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WRONG. The drug is totally covered by OHIP. Also, if you are diabetic as my wife is, would you prefer two injections per day every day, or once a day per week? She did lose some weight but very little. The drug semaglutide suppresses your appetite.
'' While Ozempic is covered by OHIP for the treatment of type 2 diabetes, its coverage specifically for weight loss purposes may vary. OHIP typically covers medications that are deemed medically necessary and approved by Health Canada for specific indications. ''
 

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'' While Ozempic is covered by OHIP for the treatment of type 2 diabetes, its coverage specifically for weight loss purposes may vary. OHIP typically covers medications that are deemed medically necessary and approved by Health Canada for specific indications. ''
Yes. The drug was developed as a treatment for diabetes and as I said it is covered by OHIP, but you must get a referral from your doctor that it is to be used for diabetes. The reason it became so popular for weight loss started when Americans who were not covered by their health plans found that it was so expensive they started buying the drug in Canada. Because of that, the company that makes Ozempic, Novo Nordisc in Copenhagen, where my daughter in law works is having trouble keeping up with the supply demands.
 

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Yes. The drug was developed as a treatment for diabetes and as I said it is covered by OHIP, but you must get a referral from your doctor that it is to be used for diabetes. The reason it became so popular for weight loss started when Americans who were not covered by their health plans found that it was so expensive they started buying the drug in Canada. Because of that, the company that makes Ozempic, Novo Nordisc in Copenhagen, where my daughter in law works is having trouble keeping up with the supply demands.

A lot of people south of the border are ordering through companies like this without a prescription.

There's a burgeoning peptide movement going on right now in the biohacking realm.

Buyer beware.
 

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It's not me who says so, it's what studies have shown.
If you think someone can eat 500 calories and exercise and not lose weight... Have you considered voting for Trump and taking advice from Andrew Taint?
That's not a red herring, it's a bag of doritos.

The reality is that no one with normal mental abilities can maintain that mental state and ootherwise lead a normal life.

All you guys areguing about simple claories in-calories out, holocaust camp starvation self admittedly say you are unable to to what you say is required to not be fat fucks. Despite being obvioulsy intelligent enough to not only ly know better, but to preach.

And then dismiss medication that can help achieve and maintain weight loss for a better, healthier life. Nothing to stop you from also working out and eating less. This, and other medications, simply help.

Do whatever pleases you all. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Yes, to a degree. But weight loss and management is quite a complex metabolic process.

Like mental health, obesity is a serious and growing issue facing our health care system. If there are medications that can help, it's less expensive and better for everyone than taking the hard-ass approach. Some of us can eat deep fried fish and chips and not get fat. Some can't eat tuna sandwiches and celery without not being able to lose or keep weight off long term.

This is proven medical science.

Otherwise, matabolic modifying drugs like the semiglutides would not work.

Good info

Thx

Not interested in a drug you are on for life as I do not need it

I guess I am actually lucky. While a bad diet makes me fat,
I can get it off unlke some with bad metabolism , according to Schlong

I lost 30 pounds from keto diet and never gained it back.

I no longer worry about carbs just calories.

But, I did get strong cravings for carbs on the keto diet so I would toast some pumpernickle bread
then add honey which would slow my diet for a day but I still lost 3 pounds a week
and found it easy to do.

I also had 14 hour window between meals so basically no food until 1 PM
which was a low carb salad of baby sprouts and tuna then
very low carb supper at 7 then zero carb snacking until 11 pm

14 hour fast is not required but I just threw it in and has stayed a practise

It is easy to skip breakfast. It is BS that it is an essential meal and you will lose energy.
Marketing BS from the egg and cereal industry, we are so easily manipulated


Watching the scale drop every day was the motivation I needed


I also work out a lot


I went from this


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Good info

Thx

Not interested in a drug you are on for life as I do not need it

I guess I am actually lucky. While a bad diet makes me fat,
I can get it off unlke some with bad metabolism , according to Schlong

I lost 30 pounds from keto diet and never gained it back.

I no longer worry about carbs just calories.

But, I did get strong cravings for carbs so I would eat some pumpernickle bread
with honey which would slow my diet for a day but I still lost 3 pounds a week
and found it easy to do.

I also had 14 hour window between meals so basically no food until 1 PM
which was a low carb salad of baby sprouts and tuna then
very low carb supper at 7 then stop zero carb snacking at 11 pm

14 hour fast is not required but I just threw it in and has stayed a practise

It is easy to skip breakfast. It is BS that it is an essential meal and you will lose energy.
Marketing BS from the egg and cereal industry, we are so easily manipulated


Watching the scale drop every day was the motivation I needed


I also work out a lot


I went from this


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to this


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Yup, I agree it is all about calories in calories out. Some people can eat anything scenario is 1) they are not consuming over the maintenance calories because although they may be eating junk, they are not big eaters and move a lot during the day. If the average 5Ft 9 male eats 2000 calories a day at least 6 days a week and adds in moderate exercise, they will not be fatties.
 

squeezer

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Just use apple cider vinegar for weight loss.
It works just as good without scary side-effects

 

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Those experts know nothing.
And why am I not surprised you have other people do the thinking for you??
 
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