Palliative Care

[SchlongConery]

Personally, I will not be going palliative. If I know I am going to die soon or I‘m at the start of dementia, I will just throw a party, take a cocktail of pills at the end of the night and simply end it. I am not putting myself or others through it. I have already lived an amazing life. If I went tomorrow, I would have no regrets. So I have would have no problem taking care of it at the end.

Same here! Gotta find me a dealer to stock up on fentanyl before Trump makes it completely disappear though

But seriously, I have collected and saved a bunch of various opioids prescribed for kidney stones, dental work, and the remainder of my mother's hydromorphone prescribed as she neared the end of her life, and have various benzodiazepines sleeping pills. So I think I've got more than enough to make it stick and not end up in a coma. I also I'll wash it all down with a few shots of my fave whiskeys, cognac, Grand Marnier etc. I'll book into a hotel room for 2 days so no housekeeper has to find me either. I'd have already done my Swedish Death Cleaning.

I just need to figure out a way to send a time-delayed message to the coroner or a funeral home director to come pick me up. I don't want anyone who doesn't deal with this professionally to just find me and be traumatized by it. I know a few people who have found loved ones or people hanging or with a gunshot to the head, or been train, subway or truck drivers who have hit someone. I also had a Bloor Viaduct jumper do the dead cat bounce about 30ft in front of my car on the Bayview extension 30 years ago. The look in the man's eyes broke my heart and I still wonder about what led him to this decision. May he rest in peace.

Or I could just read @mitchell76 's TERB posting history and die laughing!

 

[MissCroft]

I will just throw a party, take a cocktail of pills at the end of the night and simply end it. I am not putting myself or others through it. I have already lived an amazing life. If I went tomorrow, I would have no regrets. So I have would have no problem taking care of it at the end. I am not asking for permission from a bunch of doctors and shit for it. I am not wasting that time and energy. I don’t carry life insurance, I have other investments and assets to pass down, so I don’t need to worry about any clauses that can hold back funds. My family already knows all this, they know everything to do after my death as well. I know it may sound morbid, but this is just the choice I have made.

Yes.

 

[SinnamonFairbanks]

I feel like most people stay at home for as long as they can but eventually their needs become too high. They have a lot of anxiety, need a lot of care, have complications and it's easier to just go into a hospital or center where they can have round the clock care.

My granfather lost the ability to get up and use the toilet, eat, drink, stand up, his legs turned purple. He was uncomfortable all the time. They were able to manage his anxiety (he was not an anxious man) and his symptoms better at the palliative care wing. He had a nurse come in once a day and psw's but it wasnt enough. He felt better going into care and it was his preference. It was quiet and he had people checking in all the time. It's a nice place. It made me feel more at ease about dying.

Question?

Would appreciate comments on the following :

Your thoughts and or decisions on where you would prefer to receive Palliative care if and when it is necessary.

“Palliative care involves offering physical, emotional and practical support to people with chronic conditions or illnesses due to the aging process.

Would you prefer and or decide to stay at home and receive support from love ones or hired assistance, or stay at hospices, hospitals, long term care facilities etc, where care is provided by non family members.

Realizing that it provides heavy lifting on your love ones, where availability of family, funds, and other items play a part.

Thanks

 

[SinnamonFairbanks]

We do have M.A.I.D. kind of the same concept but you have people help you through it and you have to qualify. I hate it because someone I love wants to do it, but lots of people use it when they're sick and ready to go and I guess that makes me feel better that I don't have to suffer like my grandfather did. I can die with some dignity. They give you so many anxiety meds, I probably wouldn't even give a sh*t

Same here! Gotta find me a dealer to stock up on fentanyl before Trump makes it completely disappear though

But seriously, I have collected and saved a bunch of various opioids prescribed for kidney stones, dental work, and the remainder of my mother's hydromorphone prescribed as she neared the end of her life, and have various benzodiazepines sleeping pills. So I think I've got more than enough to make it stick and not end up in a coma. I also I'll wash it all down with a few shots of my fave whiskeys, cognac, Grand Marnier etc. I'll book into a hotel room for 2 days so no housekeeper has to find me either. I'd have already done my Swedish Death Cleaning.

I just need to figure out a way to send a time-delayed message to the coroner or a funeral home director to come pick me up. I don't want anyone who doesn't deal with this professionally to just find me and be traumatized by it. I know a few people who have found loved ones or people hanging or with a gunshot to the head, or been train, subway or truck drivers who have hit someone. I also had a Bloor Viaduct jumper do the dead cat bounce about 30ft in front of my car on the Bayview extension 30 years ago. The look in the man's eyes broke my heart and I still wonder about what led him to this decision. May he rest in peace.

Or I could just read @mitchell76 's TERB posting history and die laughing!

 

[SchlongConery]

We do have M.A.I.D. kind of the same concept but you have people help you through it and you have to qualify. I hate it because someone I love wants to do it, but lots of people use it when they're sick and ready to go and I guess that makes me feel better that I don't have to suffer like my grandfather did. I can die with some dignity. They give you so many anxiety meds, I probably wouldn't even give a sh*t

MAID may be good for the lsss resourceful but the mere stress and pomp and circumstance of the process would frustrate me.

The real flaw, but understandable, of MAID and my fear is dementia or neurological pathology.

Presently I have two friends who have made it clear they wouldn't want to live if they were losing their minds. One suffered for 3 month with a brain tumour. He was unable to give informed consent because of his mental condition, so he had to suuffer the pain and indignity of wasting away to an unrecognizible caricature of who he really was and how he lived. Was 48 and died an agonizing death of multiple embolisms that shut down patrs ogf his body one by one over a five hour death. After a month in hospital.

Another had quickly slipped past the stage of livable, but notable dementia. He said if he got worse he want to 'pull the plug' and his son made the arrangements and all was good. . However, he entered the stage of advanced dementia literally overnight and was therefore unable to give final consent at the time the medication was to be administered. Now he's locked up in a care home, angry, lonrly and combative. Completely unlike him. Doesn't even recognize his son or wife.

Nope. I'm ready to go once my brain reaches the point of my algorithm feeding me trump and russian tweets!

 

[xmontrealer]

As I believe I have mentioned before in some other similar thread, very few doctors go through stage 4 cancer.

They know what's coming, and have the access to whatever meds it takes to end their lives before their quality of life deteriorates too much...

 

[Jenesis]

MAID may be good for the lsss resourceful but the mere stress and pomp and circumstance of the process would frustrate me.

The real flaw, but understandable, of MAID and my fear is dementia or neurological pathology.

Presently I have two friends who have made it clear they wouldn't want to live if they were losing their minds. One suffered for 3 month with a brain tumour. He was unable to give informed consent because of his mental condition, so he had to suuffer the pain and indignity of wasting away to an unrecognizible caricature of who he really was and how he lived. Was 48 and died an agonizing death of multiple embolisms that shut down patrs ogf his body one by one over a five hour death. After a month in hospital.

Another had quickly slipped past the stage of livable, but notable dementia. He said if he got worse he want to 'pull the plug' and his son made the arrangements and all was good. . However, he entered the stage of advanced dementia literally overnight and was therefore unable to give final consent at the time the medication was to be administered. Now he's locked up in a care home, angry, lonrly and combative. Completely unlike him. Doesn't even recognize his son or wife.

Nope. I'm ready to go once my brain reaches the point of my algorithm feeding me trump and russian tweets!

Yeah - I’m not jumping through hoops and getting permission. It is my life. It is my body. It's my choice.

Oh and as far as who will find me and when, there will be an email sent to one family member right before hand who won’t happen to open it until the morning. It will be “concerning” enough for them to call police and paramedics to go to my home and find me. That way no family member will have to do it and there is a note with my intent so there are no questions about what happened or why.