Peace bond or restraining order

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

Yes, the keyed car, brick through window, shit on your doorknob stunts are impossible to prove and the cops will do nada. It's simply that the vic cannot prove these beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal court and thus, the cops will not lay the charge. At the same time, everybody is 99% sure who probably did those stunts.

I'm sure the State of New York is no further ahead, as it all relates to the high requirements of proof in a criminal case - and that's a fundamental part of our system.

Recently, I had a female complainant whose car was keyed in a LOCKED GARAGE. Only 2 people had the key - her and her psycho, prick ex. She called the cops. The cops went to see Mr Creep and he told them that she "must have keyed the car herself to get even with me." Result - no charge laid.

The Creep then complained to family court judge that my client was fabricating complaints against him!!!!

I believe it. It really does not surprise me at all.

I was sitting on a back porch with a few people and across the street a person who had a no-communication condition {with a person I was sitting with} on their bail release walked by to the store. The order was for 250 ft. He walked by once, taking notice of the person he is not to be around. Camera phones got taken out. He walked back and made hand gestures that were caught on camera. Police called. Charges not laid because after speaking to the guy, the officer believed he did not know exactly how far 250 ft was. Officer said that he knows now so if it happens again, then he can be charge. Needless to say that a week later at court for one of his appearances, the Crown was pissed saying that was not up to the cop to decided, but it was too late. The photo evidence was not allowed to be used in the case, because it was not relative to the charge. Needless to say, my friend was upset and feels the system failed her.

and this is not the first of these stories. People wonder why victims of abuse don't speak up. Why bother? When they get no results and victimized by the courts after?

 

[Aardvark154]

Yes, the keyed car, brick through window, shit on your doorknob stunts are impossible to prove and the cops will do nada. It's simply that the vic cannot prove these beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal court and thus, the cops will not lay the charge. At the same time, everybody is 99% sure who probably did those stunts.

Ah, needless to say.

There are a number of things going on here: where I practice yes you would probably be able to obtain a Restraining Order based upon the keyed car. But certainly without witnesses or the classic the car was fine a minute latter five people saw ex running away from the car with a can of spray paint in his hand a conviction on vandalism would be more difficult. What I really had in the back of my mind was more both parties are in an apartment one goes outside to await police meanwhile the apartment is trashed.

 

[Aardvark154]

The order was for 250 ft. He walked by once, taking notice of the person he is not to be around. Camera phones got taken out. He walked back and made hand gestures that were caught on camera. Police called. Charges not laid because after speaking to the guy, the officer believed he did not know exactly how far 250 ft was. Officer said that he knows now so if it happens again, then he can be charge. Needless to say that a week later at court for one of his appearances, the Crown was pissed saying that was not up to the cop to decide, but it was too late. Needless to say, my friend was upset and feels the system failed her.

As your story shows it was one remarkably ignorant police officer who failed her. Now I can see if this was a simple case of how far is 250 feet as opposed to 300 feet but in this case he made hand gestures etc. . . even as the Crown Attorney latter indicated clearly a violation of the order.

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

But as your story shows it was one remarkably ignorant police officer who failed her. Now I can see if this was a simple case of how far is 250 feet as opposed to 300 feet but in this case he made hand gestures etc. . . even as the Crown Attorney latter indicated clearly a violation of the order.

THIS story shows one ignorant officer. This is one of many.

Please believe this is not something I would want to preach. The opposite is what I wish would be the case and for those who find they have a difference experience that was positive, I am happy for them. Sadly, this happens all too much with police officers and when they fuck up, it becomes to late to get a proper protection order or to have the person in breach of one already in play, held accountable for that breach at a later date.