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Ranger68

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wonkyknee said:
Once you start worring about how little you can bet, you might as well pack it in.
I thought you said people had to have patience? This indicates minimum betting. What did I misunderstand?
Anyway, the only way to make money at blackjack remotely reliably is to card count and push your bet when the odds swing in your favour. Since the odds are mostly NOT in your favour, it behooves you to put minimum bets out there most of the time, since the house is bleeding your chips.
You should be putting minimum bets out there almost all the time.

wonkyknee said:
The minimum bet is the minimum bet..that's all it is, but if you can't afford to play more than the minimum then you will lose...guaranteed. If you are being "forced to play certain amounts" then you are no longer dictating the play. The casino is dictating to you...and of course you are then at the mercy of their odds.
This makes no sense. In what way are you "dictating the play" by changing the amount you bet? Unless you've calculated that the odds are in your favour? Which begs the question of why you weren't betting minimum when the odds WEREN'T in your favour.

You are ALWAYS at the mercy of the odds, whether they're in the favour of the house or the casino. How much you bet does nothing to alter this.

wonkyknee said:
Here's a tip for you and your friends: go weekdays...early in the mornings..that way you can bet minimum $10/hand....hopefully you and the grannies get along. At $10/hand at least you will lose all your money slowly.
lol
Any time you wanna play some blackjack, just let me know, wonky.
:)


wonkyknee said:
P.S. It's a bit of a drive to Rama or Niagara......hopefully you did more than "practically get your driver's licence"...or take the bus, they often have tours for you and the grannies worrying about the minimum bets.
I don't recall seeing you in the high-stakes games lately.
ROTFL

Anyway, good luck at the tables, wonk. You're CLEARLY going to need it. But, a fool and his money are soon parted, so I think you should bring your bank card, too.
 

Ranger68

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wonkyknee said:
Betting only minimum bets hurts you severely. You have to be able to afford the game. When "action" hands occur you can't shy away.....and for one last time, when you are in the midst of a series of winning hands, you can't be concerned with "minimum bets" either.
ROTFLMFAO
Ah, my.
The idiocy of some people never fails to amuse me.
One wonders just how much money you've lost at blackjack, wonky?
ROTFL

Gents, it's been a blast.

If anyone wants to learn some things about blackjack, I'd be happy to teach them. Most of what's posted in here is such ridiculous shit it's laughable.

Good luck to all. Remember that unless you're very very skilled, the house will take your money. There is no betting strategy which will help you. Betting on a hot hand won't help you.
Just enjoy your time.
 

wonkyknee

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Even the group from MIT in the end lost....

Ranger68 said:
I thought you said people had to have patience? This indicates minimum betting. What did I misunderstand?
Anyway, the only way to make money at blackjack remotely reliably is to card count and push your bet when the odds swing in your favour. Since the odds are mostly NOT in your favour, it behooves you to put minimum bets out there most of the time, since the house is bleeding your chips.
You should be putting minimum bets out there almost all the time.


This makes no sense. In what way are you "dictating the play" by changing the amount you bet? Unless you've calculated that the odds are in your favour? Which begs the question of why you weren't betting minimum when the odds WEREN'T in your favour.

You are ALWAYS at the mercy of the odds, whether they're in the favour of the house or the casino. How much you bet does nothing to alter this.


lol
Any time you wanna play some blackjack, just let me know, wonky.
:)



I don't recall seeing you in the high-stakes games lately.
ROTFL

Anyway, good luck at the tables, wonk. You're CLEARLY going to need it. But, a fool and his money are soon parted, so I think you should bring your bank card, too.

When you're not being a total idi@t you are making some valid points....but I'm not sure how minimum betting and patience have any correlation. Again you're too fixated with the minimum bets.

Let's get something straight: the minimum bet is established simply as a means to profitablity for the casino. By simply only ever betting the minimum bet you fall right into the winning odds of the casino. The raise the minimums as a factor of the number of people playing and the general public's tolerance for lossses. They lower the minimum so that losers like Ranger68 will play because they only get paid monthly by the government and can not afford to spend too high a percentage of his monthly assistance cheques.

They raise the minimums for two reasons: 1. to increase profitability and
2.(and more importantly) they raise it to get it to a point where the average player doens't have enough even to sit down and play for a long period of time, and so that the average player is hesitant to increase his bets, or even willingly "double down" and/or "split" his cards at the most important times: "action"

To play $25/minimum for example you should be sitting down with at least $750.00 to play, but the casino knows that many will only have 2 0r 3 Or 4 hundered dollars to put "at risk". I'm sure we've all seen complete m@rons like Ranger68 sit down and ask for chips with only $100....and Ranger66 will look around the table with his chest inflated like he is some kind of "playa"

BOTTOM LINE....FORGET ABOUT THE TABLE MINIMUMS...THEY ARE FOR THE CASINO...NOT FOR YOU.!!...by following the table minimums you are allowing the casino to dictate your betting patterns. Forget the words TABLE MINIMUMS.... and go with your own personal minimums that of course need to fall within the parameters of the table rules. So you bet down to your personal minimums when you are consistently losing, but incremementally increase your bets during a winning streak. Patience comes while you wait for a 10-15 hand winning streak. This could take place in one of your betting postions or the other. So when playing two spots you ONLY INCREASE THE BET OF THE WINNING POSITIONS. and good for you if both positions go on a streak.

By playing two positions you double your chances of having a series of winning hands. It mathematical series theory....and I'm sorry Ranger68 but they don't teach that when you ALMOST get a math diploma at Humber College!!!!
 

wonkyknee

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OK I APOLOGIZE...

Apparently Ranger68's mother is also a member on this board and has informed me by PM that he is in fact on social assistance and is somewhat sensitive to the issue.

sorry Ranger.
 

booboobear

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wonkyknee said:
When you're not being a total idi@t you are making some valid points....but I'm not sure how minimum betting and patience have any correlation. Again you're too fixated with the minimum bets.

Let's get something straight: the minimum bet is established simply as a means to profitablity for the casino. They raise the minimums for two reasons: 1. to increase profitability and
2.(and more importantly) they raise it to get it to a point where the average player doens't have enough even to sit down and play for a long period of time, and so that the average player is hesitant to increase his bets, or even willingly "double down" and/or "split" his cards at the most important times: "action"

To play $25/minimum for example you should be sitting down with at least $750.00 to play, but the casino knows that many will only have 2 0r 3 Or 4 hundered dollars to put "at risk". I'm sure we've all seen complete m@rons like Ranger68 sit down and ask for chips with only $100....and Ranger66 will look around the table with his chest inflated like he is some kind of "playa"

BOTTOM LINE....FORGET ABOUT THE TABLE MINIMUMS...THEY ARE FOR THE CASINO...NOT FOR YOU.!!...By playing two positions you double your chances of having a series of winning hands. It mathematical series theory....and I'm sorry Ranger68 but they don't teach that when you ALMOST get a math diploma at Humber College!!!!

The fact is both you and Ranger are making valid points but the problem is you both seem too intent in " proving " you are right. I do agree about the minimums if you sit at a $ 10 minimum table you aren't going to win any decent amount but that varies per person , some people are content to play for an 1 hr and walk away with $ 20 I am not. That doesn't mean they are wrong . After I had been playing B Jack for a while I quickly figured out that the only way to win a decent amount by my standards was to bet bigger , than minimums . The second key point not covered is to set the amount you want to win and walk away , to me this is the hardest thing and probably what defeats most people not the odds .Peoples egos defeat them, if you were betting $ 100 minimum which I don't not yet nothing wrong with leaving if you are 2 hands ahead $ 200 but I bet most players at that level wouldn't. I don't know why most people refer to when the count is in your favour because as far as I know the tables at Niagara are all cconstant shuffle except in the Club Privee section.
 
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