Poilievre reacts to federal report warning of bleak future if Canada stays on current path

[JohnLarue]

Poilievre reacts to federal report warning of bleak future if Canada stays on current path

WATCH: Poilievre reacts to federal report warning of bleak future if Canada stays on current path

While unveiling his party's costed plan on Tuesday, Pierre Poilievre drew attention to a report from the Privy Council Office that warned of complete social and economic breakdown by 2040 if Canada stays on its current path.

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The Conservative leader called Privy Council Office report's findings "unbelievable."

Poilievre began by pointing out that far from coming from an interest group, think tank, or opinion columnist, the report in question had been released by "the prime minister's personal department."

"What they are anticipating on the current trajectory is a total meltdown, a societal breakdown in Canada if we stay on the current track,"

he warned. "Why this isn't blazing the front page of every news outlet in the country right now is beyond me. It's just unbelievable."

"This is for the future," Poilievre emphasized. "It's not enough for Mr. Carney to say 'oh well the last 10 years is in the past, forget about it. Stop bothering me about the past.' This is predicted future his department foresees for Canada."

He went on to quote from the report.
"More people may struggle to afford rent, bills, or groceries," it read. "The resulting stress could worsen mental health challenges.

This would increase demands on social services."
Another section predicts that "in 2040, upward social mobility is almost unheard of in Canada, and that "hardly anyone believes that they can build a better life for themselves or their children through their own efforts; many worry about sliding down the social order."

"In 2040, owning a home is not a realistic goal for many," he continued. "Inequality between those who rent and those who own has become a key driver of social, economic, and political conflict."

The report also painted a "terrifying picture of a spiral of economic depression," and warned that as a result, those with skills and a desire to earn more may emigrate out of Canada to more economically prosperous nations.

Perhaps the most shocking part of the report, however, was that discussing the cost of food.
"This last line, it staggers me," Poilievre said. "That groceries are expected to become so expensive, according to Mr. Carney's top government department, that people 'may start to hunt, fish, and forage on public lands and waterways."

"It's just hard to believe when you read these words that this is about Canada," Poilievre continued. "This is exactly why I'm in politics. To reverse this. To give people back the promise of this country."
He said Conservatives "know what to do to get there," explaining he would make it happen by cutting taxes, removing bureaucracy, building homes, unleashing resources, and locking up criminals.

 

[HEYHEY]

Nothing to see here, everyone keep voting liberal!

 

[nottyboi]

Nothing to see here, everyone keep voting liberal!

Oh and the conservative provincial govts have nothing to do with this? The 10 years of Harper had a similar trajectory in terms of real estate prices. Thank god I bought a house under Chretien.

 

[wigglee]

LaRue prefers the guy with a BA over the guy with a PHD and tons of real world economic experience.........for a change.

 

[Insidious Von]

Canada's future is so bright we have to wear shades. LaRue just wants to sell us land in Yemen.

 

[DesRicardo]

One of Carney's own government agency is suggesting people will start foraging for food like pigs.

Future Lives: Social mobility in question

• People may start to hunt, fish, and forage on public lands and waterways without reference to regulations. Small-scale agriculture could increase

A government agency, under the Liberal watch, has suggested a social collapse in Canada. It's sad. It is.

If you give the Liberals a 4th term, you are left with no choice but to way your alternatives on your future here.

 

[boobtoucher]

Wait, is a conservative deliberately misinterpereting a report to spread fear!?!? Must be one of those days that ends in Y.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/policy-horizons-report-2040-poilievre-1.7515683

Actual report:

Future Lives: Social mobility in question

Which speculates on what happens when capital continues to consolidate unchecked. Maybe another tax cut with fix it.

 

[JohnLarue]

LaRue prefers the guy with a BA over the guy with a PHD and tons of real world economic experience.........for a change.

you backed a drama teacher for a decade and now your comparing degrees ?

for a change.

federal report warning of bleak future if Canada stays on current path

yes a change is desperately needed

 

[JohnLarue]

Canada's future is so bright we have to wear shades. LaRue just wants to sell us land in Yemen.

this report is from the Liberals Privy council

the report in question had been released by "the prime minister's personal department."

 

[JohnLarue]

Wait, is a conservative deliberately misinterpereting a report to spread fear!?!? Must be one of those days that ends in Y.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/policy-horizons-report-2040-poilievre-1.7515683

Actual report:

Future Lives: Social mobility in question

Which speculates on what happens when capital continues to consolidate unchecked. Maybe another tax cut with fix it.

from your link

In 2040, upward social mobility is almost unheard of in Canada. Hardly anyone believes that they can build a better life for themselves, or their children, through their own efforts. However, many worry about sliding down the social order

In 2040, pursuing post-secondary education (PSE) is no longer considered a reliable path to social mobility. Tuition and housing costs exclude all but the wealthy.

In 2040, owning a home is not a realistic goal for many.

In 2040, people see inheritance as the only reliable way to get ahead.

In 2040, aspirations for social mobility among youth are at odds with expectations of immobility.

3.1 The Canadian economy could shrink or become less predictable

• More people may struggle to afford rent, bills, or groceries. The resulting stress could worsen mental health challenges. This would increase demand for social services
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3.3 Workers may seek greener pastures elsewhere

People may start to hunt, fish, and forage on public lands and waterways without reference to regulations.

3.5 Post-secondary education could become a stranded asset

3.6 People may reject systems they believe have failed them

Currently, most Canadians still believe that they have equality of opportunityFootnote6. This may change.

conclusion 1 : We will own nothing and be unhappy (WEF vision gone bad)
conclusion 2 : We desperately need a change in direction

 

[boobtoucher]

Ugh, you shouldn't reply to "Conservatives cherrypick scary words" with more cherry picking of scary words.

" Thinking about future scenarios helps decision-makers understand some of the forces already influencing their policy environment. It can also help them test the future readiness of assumptions built into today’s policies and programs. Finally, it helps identify opportunities to take decisions today that may benefit Canada in the future."

" Upward social mobility may never be as difficult or rare as suggested in this scenario. However, social stagnation and downward mobility are plausible elements of the future. Exploring them supports anticipatory governance by helping policymakers think through potential challenges and opportunities. "

" This foresight report synthesizes the thinking, ideas, and analysis of many contributors through research, conversations, and survey data. "

This isn't a report on an inevitable future. Its a "hey, there are some challenges on the horizon. Let's think about what could happen if we don't deal with them appropriately"

If you are concerned about upward social mobility, you should want a taxation regime that transfers wealth from the capital class into public services. Maybe some kind of tax on capital gains, or perhaps a sin tax on excessive consumption. Maybe tie that into the amount of pollution a person generates or something.

 

[Frankfooter]

LaRue prefers the guy with a BA over the guy with a PHD and tons of real world economic experience.........for a change.

He used to wine endlessly about how a teacher wasn't qualified.
Now he wants a career politician who has done nothing but get the biggest pension in Ottawa.

 

[bazokajoe]

Ugh, you shouldn't reply to "Conservatives cherrypick scary words" with more cherry picking of scary words.

" Thinking about future scenarios helps decision-makers understand some of the forces already influencing their policy environment. It can also help them test the future readiness of assumptions built into today’s policies and programs. Finally, it helps identify opportunities to take decisions today that may benefit Canada in the future."

" Upward social mobility may never be as difficult or rare as suggested in this scenario. However, social stagnation and downward mobility are plausible elements of the future. Exploring them supports anticipatory governance by helping policymakers think through potential challenges and opportunities. "

" This foresight report synthesizes the thinking, ideas, and analysis of many contributors through research, conversations, and survey data. "

This isn't a report on an inevitable future. Its a "hey, there are some challenges on the horizon. Let's think about what could happen if we don't deal with them appropriately"

If you are concerned about upward social mobility, you should want a taxation regime that transfers wealth from the capital class into public services. Maybe some kind of tax on capital gains, or perhaps a sin tax on excessive consumption. Maybe tie that into the amount of pollution a person generates or something.

LMAO
There already is a tax on capital gains and a sin/luxury tax on expensive items.

 

[JohnLarue]

Ugh, you shouldn't reply to "Conservatives cherrypick scary words" with more cherry picking of scary words.

" Thinking about future scenarios helps decision-makers understand some of the forces already influencing their policy environment. It can also help them test the future readiness of assumptions built into today’s policies and programs. Finally, it helps identify opportunities to take decisions today that may benefit Canada in the future."

" Upward social mobility may never be as difficult or rare as suggested in this scenario. However, social stagnation and downward mobility are plausible elements of the future. Exploring them supports anticipatory governance by helping policymakers think through potential challenges and opportunities. "

" This foresight report synthesizes the thinking, ideas, and analysis of many contributors through research, conversations, and survey data. "

This isn't a report on an inevitable future. Its a "hey, there are some challenges on the horizon. Let's think about what could happen if we don't deal with them appropriately"

ugh

conclusion 1 : We will own nothing and be unhappy (WEF vision gone bad)
conclusion 2 : We desperately need a change in direction

If you are concerned about upward social mobility, you should want a taxation regime that transfers wealth from the capital class into public services. Maybe some kind of tax on capital gains, or perhaps a sin tax on excessive consumption. Maybe tie that into the amount of pollution a person generates or something.

stealing other people's wealth to give it to grifter politicians to waste / enrich themselves does nothing to help lower income people

reducing the regulatory burden on the economy so that everyone has lots of opportunities increase overall wealth and increases govt revenues is a very sound plan

it is high time that you start to understand an economy can not grow without private sector investment
the Trudeau/ Carney Liberals drove $100 billion of investment south of the boarder and we now have the worse economic forecast of the advanced economies

The Organisation of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), a 38-member international organization, predicts that Canada will be the worst-performing advanced economy from 2020 to 2030, with inflation-adjusted per-person GDP growth of only 0.7 per cent per year over the decade.

we desperately need a change in direction

Maybe some kind of tax on capital gains, or perhaps a sin tax on excessive consumption.

WTF ??
Canadians are already taxed way too much

FYI: learn something
tech start ups require angel investors who are seeking capital gains

yes, Microsoft did have an angel investor early in its history. Technology Venture Investors (TVI), where Peter Marquardt was a junior partner, provided the initial $1 million investment for a 5% stake in Microsoft. Marquardt was also later a co-founder of August Capital and served on Microsoft's board for 33 years.

it is not governments job to control "excessive consumption"

we already have the GST which is a consumption tax and lots of sin taxes

Speaking of sin
governments need to display restraint with respect to spending
the taxpayer is not a bottomless well

 

[JohnLarue]

LMAO
There already is a tax on capital gains and a sin/luxury tax on expensive items.

he does not have a clue how an economy functions

 

[boobtoucher]

he does not have a clue how an economy functions

I should have assumed based on your reading comprehension you wouldn't pick up what I'm putting down.

Page 10 has what you need to know. Wealth in Canada is stranded. The capital class is not reinvesting. They're just parking money and living off returns. This is what the increased inclusion rate was trying to fix: Get your money moving, or we're going to start taxing it. Unfortunately, this was too much for the average Con voter to understand.

https://centreforfuturework.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Capital-Gains-Chartbook.pdf

And the "consumption tax" i was referring to was... The Carbon Tax! This, again, only cost people who were spending a lot, and made life cheaper for people with lower incomes.

Reaganomics has failed. Post-war growth was BECAUSE of high tax rates. We've been cutting since 1981. Have things gotten better for median income earners?

 

[bazokajoe]

I should have assumed based on your reading comprehension you wouldn't pick up what I'm putting down.

Page 10 has what you need to know. Wealth in Canada is stranded. The capital class is not reinvesting. They're just parking money and living off returns. This is what the increased inclusion rate was trying to fix: Get your money moving, or we're going to start taxing it. Unfortunately, this was too much for the average Con voter to understand.

https://centreforfuturework.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Capital-Gains-Chartbook.pdf

And the "consumption tax" i was referring to was... The Carbon Tax! This, again, only cost people who were spending a lot, and made life cheaper for people with lower incomes.

Reaganomics has failed. Post-war growth was BECAUSE of high tax rates. We've been cutting since 1981. Have things gotten better for median income earners?

This has to be one of the most ridiculous post I have read in a long time.

 

[oil&gas]

Divergence from the current path to one of fiscal responsibility
will surely get the ruling party voted out in future election.

 

[boobtoucher]

This has to be one of the most ridiculous post I have read in a long time.

Prove me wrong then.

 

[bazokajoe]

Prove me wrong then.

Go back and read your post. If you can't figure out what's wrong, I can't help you.