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Poll: Experience with SPs

How many SPs have you experienced as a client?

  • None

    Votes: 5 7.7%
  • 1-10

    Votes: 21 32.3%
  • 11-50

    Votes: 22 33.8%
  • >50

    Votes: 17 26.2%

  • Total voters
    65

marvin

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Nov 26, 2001
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Hamilton
One might assume that the TERB population is made up of clients and SPs. The age poll and the general conversations suggest otherwise, in my opinion. This poll might help some of the participants, like myself, understand where individuals are coming from.
 

gramage

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Feb 3, 2002
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haven't seen an SP, just MPA's.
 
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Willywants

Exaggeration!!!

I think most hobbyers would like to lay claim to 50 or more ladies!
While I thought out the numbers, I was almost sure they would exceed 50! However, the number of actual ladies vs encounters differ greatly due to repeats with certain ladies of choice!
By my reckoning, I have seen between 40 and 45 different ladies in the last 18 months! Most memorable, the odd one forgettable!
When I finalized the count, I came to understand why I am now almost bankrupt, both financially and morally!! Lol!!

Willywants (to up the count! Anybody lend me ten bucks???)
 
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Willywants

Interest!!

Sheik!
Would you consider, as a good Scot, 1% interest on the tenner??
Keep in mind, as a bit o' Scot mesel', it would hae ta be o'er five years on the payback wi' one time vigorish!

Willy
 

marvin

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Nov 26, 2001
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Initial observations

Willywants said:
I think most hobbyers would like to lay claim to 50 or more ladies!
Most "regulars" probably should be able to do so. Consider that even at the modest rate of 1 different escort per month, in 5 years that implies experience with 60 escorts. At the higher rate of 1 different SP per week... 52 escorts per year.

I would note that the very fact that such statements about the expected number of SPs have been made biases the poll results. IOW, the willingness of participants to claim few or no experiences, in this context, is relatively low. Even so, with 36 votes, almost half of those polled have 10 or fewer SP experiences. That says something about the TERB "community."

Also, considering that one a visit costs around $150/hr (maybe slightly less but probably somewhat more), an active client will spend $1800 to $7800 per year. This is a fairly conservative estimate IMO. It may explain why a significant percentage of clients are concerned about prices.

An interesting aside reflected in these numbers is the fairly small amount of sexual activity (with SPs) such numbers suggest of individual clients.

Willywants said:
...the number of actual ladies vs encounters differ greatly due to repeats...
Although the initial intention was to assess experience without prejudice to "repeats" I believe the results of this question are instructive for the purposes of assessing promiscuity and that is a useful bit of information as well.
 

rr_bill

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Mar 18, 2002
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Waytoofar N. Ont.
Re: Initial observations

marvin said:
..................... considering that one a visit costs around $150/hr (maybe slightly less but probably somewhat more), an active client will spend $1800 to $7800 per year. This is a fairly conservative estimate IMO. ....................... An interesting aside reflected in these numbers is the fairly small amount of sexual activity (with SPs) such numbers suggest of individual clients........................ Although the initial intention was to assess experience without prejudice to "repeats" I believe the results of this question are instructive for the purposes of assessing promiscuity and that is a useful bit of information as well.
marvin;
Some "personal" stats for you that you may wish to consider re: activity and/or promiscuity of an old-timer.

Actual:
- time in hobby - 11.5 years
- number of SP's seen in that time - 152

Number of SP's seen:
- more than 10x - 9
- more than 5x - 13
- only 2x - 26
- only 1x - 78

Estimated:
- number of encounters - over 650 and approaching 700 but probably more!
- annual spending - way over your top estimate of $7800 (wish I'd kept better records)

Total number of encounters was impossible to determine since some regulars did end up as, and still are, personal friends and therefore no "score" was kept of those.

Recently I've found it rather difficult to either, find an SP that I am comfortable with seeing on a regular basis, or a girl who I was comfortable with, staying active in the business for a long enough period of time.

In my localle, the turn-over of SP's has become very high and often times, once a connection is made with someone I'd enjoy repeating with, she soon leaves "the business" and so the search had to start all over again. This is apparent from the large number of single and double encounters. Of about 60 girls I've met in the last three years I have seen only one girl more than 10x and five girls more than 5x.

There are no advertised independants locally so I'm forced to rely on agency girls and I have noticed a definite shift in the age and type of girls that are available from young "ladies" in their 20's who generally knew what they were doing, to young "girls" (too often teenage school girls) who were into it for kicks and some quick party money.

Why???:confused:
 
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VatoLoco

My score

Not like I keep one but I estimate being with about 20 to 25
SPs since the time I began my hobbying career one and a half years ago. Very few ladies I have seen more than once, maybe
around 5. Hope this helps the poll.

Willy, you the man! Your posts are very entertaining I always enjoy reading what you have to say. I just had to let you know.
 

marvin

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Nov 26, 2001
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Hamilton
Some more observations

rr_bill said:
- time in hobby - 11.5 years
- number of SP's seen in that time - 152...

- number of encounters - over 650 and approaching 700 but probably more!
- annual spending - way over your top estimate of $7800 (wish I'd kept better records)
So you know, I have no doubt about your figures. In making my earlier comments, I hoped to keep the numbers relatively low so as not to encourage bombast from respondents for what is intended as a relatively serious question. Also, I wanted to avoid the thread degenerating into a discussion of money. You, and a few others here, spend a lot on SPs. Enough said.

rr_bill said:
Total number of encounters was impossible to determine since some regulars did end up as, and still are, personal friends and therefore no "score" was kept of those.
Fair enough. For those interested, this is where one can make a claim that some grouping of "clients" and "escorts" qualify as a subculture (or lifestyle). Very little study of this has ever been done. At least, as far as I know.

Finally, rr_bill, I would say thanks for your insightful self-analysis. All of the readers should benefit from your observations.

Now, a few additional comments about the poll. Since last checking in, the number of respondents has increased sufficiently to suggest that a more linear progression towards greater numbers of SPs. This may be interpreted as a consequence of length of activity. Perhaps.

It is noteworthy that only a quarter of the respondants have what I would consider significant experience with SPs. (In all fairness, it seems generous to suggest as little as 51 encounters as qualifying as "experienced.") For the record, the results thus far imply that over 40% of the respondents have as little as 5 hours experience with SPs (assuming half-hour visits and all encounters are unique). In my opinion, this goes a long way towards explaining some of the commentary found on TERB -- flame wars excepted, of course.

I hope more individuals take the time to respond to the poll. Thanks for all the input thus far.
 

marvin

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Nov 26, 2001
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Hamilton
Can we reach 100 responses?

I am not sure how many active participants TERB has, but I would like to make one last plug to have individuals reply to this poll. Thanks.
 
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