Poll on Shilling
- Thread starter Holden MacNeil
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I'd guess that it's somewhere from 10-20%, but it seems to fluctuate. Some days it seems they're all real and some days you're skeptical of most of them.
It depends how much EC is posting. Based on recent history, they've been outed badly, with terbadmin searching and exposing their multiple posts from the same IP addresses. If there's such a thing as "serial shilling", they're it.
That's a tough question, though.
It depends how much EC is posting. Based on recent history, they've been outed badly, with terbadmin searching and exposing their multiple posts from the same IP addresses. If there's such a thing as "serial shilling", they're it.
That's a tough question, though.
there is SOME blatent shilling and i recently gave my two cents on Mississauga_guy52 who is now OVER the 20 post mark .......(congratulations) ........BUT THEY ARE ALL without exception about a ONE TIME EXPERIENCE with an SP who does not have an ad to support the revenues and therefore existence of this board..... tbill is getting up there about Lynn-ha as well ,,, I have posted about her (a positive opinion) BUT COME ON TBILL AND MISSISSAUGA_GUY52 you have beat this one with a stick until you are INSULTING the intellect of all of the board members and the board administration....
to repeat my previous comments.......(these were directed at MISSISSAUGA_GUY52) but can apply to all who shill
By all means post a review ....damn I am one of the STRONGEST opponents to flaming (just research my posts to the likes of Blue Eyes and Deedles, two of the guys with well fuelled flame throwers) BUT REALLY does a guy need to tell us NINETEEN (19) times now, what a great time he had once with any SP... i don't mind 9,19 or 119 INDIVIDUAL guys telling me BUT to hear the same guy say it so OFTEN ....... well i tend to think he/she/it has stepped over a line and may be JUST MAY BE not what it seems.
to repeat my previous comments.......(these were directed at MISSISSAUGA_GUY52) but can apply to all who shill
By all means post a review ....damn I am one of the STRONGEST opponents to flaming (just research my posts to the likes of Blue Eyes and Deedles, two of the guys with well fuelled flame throwers) BUT REALLY does a guy need to tell us NINETEEN (19) times now, what a great time he had once with any SP... i don't mind 9,19 or 119 INDIVIDUAL guys telling me BUT to hear the same guy say it so OFTEN ....... well i tend to think he/she/it has stepped over a line and may be JUST MAY BE not what it seems.
well lets use your prime example ...LYNN-HA..... you and Mississauga_guy52 (not to suggest you are one and the same) started repeated posting in late July ..... the two of you shilled and shilled and suprise, SUPrise, SUPRISE her rate went from $130.oo to $150.oo .... hmmmm PUSHED PRICE UP didn't you tbill/mississauga_guy52 ?????tbill said:first, i'm not a shill and have no economic interest in any sp
second, the reason i talk about some SPs more than others is cause they offer good deals and i feel in the end that benefits everybody with lower prices and better service
don't you agree daty that if more people go to a better service at a lower price then this will help push prices down a bit..isn't that good daty
shilling at work!!!!!!!
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I think it's time for you boys to put this discussion to rest. I can see both sides.
There's nothing wrong with sharing good experiences and singing the praises of a particular lady if she has made you feel good.
I don't think daty would dispute that. However, it may be a matter of degree, that is, too much of a good thing can turn into something not so good. And in the extreme, such as here, possibly, it can start to take on negative connotations as in being interpreted as a shill.
tbill is a respected poster and even though bill rhymes with shill, I don't think that is the case. I don't think, though, that it is hard to see how posting 19 or 20 times on one lady would make others' antennae go up.
Just something to keep in mind for future.
I'm glad to see that both parties were able to have a difference of opinion without it degenerating into insulting and name calling which is becoming a little too common around here.
There's nothing wrong with sharing good experiences and singing the praises of a particular lady if she has made you feel good.
I don't think daty would dispute that. However, it may be a matter of degree, that is, too much of a good thing can turn into something not so good. And in the extreme, such as here, possibly, it can start to take on negative connotations as in being interpreted as a shill.
tbill is a respected poster and even though bill rhymes with shill, I don't think that is the case. I don't think, though, that it is hard to see how posting 19 or 20 times on one lady would make others' antennae go up.
Just something to keep in mind for future.
I'm glad to see that both parties were able to have a difference of opinion without it degenerating into insulting and name calling which is becoming a little too common around here.
I`d have to say at least half are shills. Maybe I`m a pessimist but when i see one agency that has reviews every single week. Every single new girl gets reviewed right away hhmmmm. I bet that jumpstarts their sales quickly.
Then other very reputable agencies that have reviews on a more believable level say every few weeks. It really stands out. Do you see reviews on Allisons every single week? NO They don`t need the advertising.
Some indys seem to do the same when they are in trouble.
I have noticed and then there are the blatent dumbass shills like the Sasha Dana post. That was truly a jealous sp or someone unhappy from rejection. But funny as hell and Ms Jones can handle herself quite well.
You really have to learn to read between the lines take a look at who is posting reviews and there conflicting statements.
We read quite often that a hobbiest is disappointed with a sp especially after reading all her rave reviews.
I guess the part that bothers me most about these shills is when the information givin is inncorrect like bbbj and the sp is martked as a provider of bbbj. She probubally has no idea of the fake post or the concequesces. Though it may make the agency more money to advertise bbbj it is not right to say a girl will preform something she does not. This makes clients that she sees expect something she is not willing to perform. Thus making both of us feeling foolish!I have seen this happen first had when Adrianne was reviewed.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9822
Shill=Free advertising
Then other very reputable agencies that have reviews on a more believable level say every few weeks. It really stands out. Do you see reviews on Allisons every single week? NO They don`t need the advertising.
Some indys seem to do the same when they are in trouble.
I have noticed and then there are the blatent dumbass shills like the Sasha Dana post. That was truly a jealous sp or someone unhappy from rejection. But funny as hell and Ms Jones can handle herself quite well.
You really have to learn to read between the lines take a look at who is posting reviews and there conflicting statements.
We read quite often that a hobbiest is disappointed with a sp especially after reading all her rave reviews.
I guess the part that bothers me most about these shills is when the information givin is inncorrect like bbbj and the sp is martked as a provider of bbbj. She probubally has no idea of the fake post or the concequesces. Though it may make the agency more money to advertise bbbj it is not right to say a girl will preform something she does not. This makes clients that she sees expect something she is not willing to perform. Thus making both of us feeling foolish!I have seen this happen first had when Adrianne was reviewed.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9822
Shill=Free advertising
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in this thread two SP`s (Vanessa and December) and/or their respective shills take shots at one another and it gets personnal !!!!
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=131220#post131220
I too am thinking of increasing my initial guess WAYYYY UP !!!!!
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=131220#post131220
I too am thinking of increasing my initial guess WAYYYY UP !!!!!
If in doubt ......
4 entries found for SHILL.
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shill Pronunciation Key (shl) Slang
n.
One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
v. shilled, shill·ing, shills
v. intr.
To act as a shill.
v. tr.
To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
To lure (a person) into a swindle.
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[Perhaps short for shillaber.]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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SHILL
\Shill\, v. t. To shell. [Obs. or Prov. Eng.]
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
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SHILL
\Shill\, v. t. [Cf. Sheal.] To put under cover; to sheal. [Prov.ng.] --Brockett.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
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SHILL
v : act as a shill
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
4 entries found for SHILL.
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shill Pronunciation Key (shl) Slang
n.
One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
v. shilled, shill·ing, shills
v. intr.
To act as a shill.
v. tr.
To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
To lure (a person) into a swindle.
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[Perhaps short for shillaber.]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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SHILL
\Shill\, v. t. To shell. [Obs. or Prov. Eng.]
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
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SHILL
\Shill\, v. t. [Cf. Sheal.] To put under cover; to sheal. [Prov.ng.] --Brockett.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
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SHILL
v : act as a shill
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
shack said:I'd guess that it's somewhere from 10-20%, but it seems to fluctuate. Some days it seems they're all real and some days you're skeptical of most of them.
It depends how much EC is posting. Based on recent history, they've been outed badly, with terbadmin searching and exposing their multiple posts from the same IP addresses. If there's such a thing as "serial shilling", they're it.
That's a tough question, though.
At the rate you say are shills do you realize then that between
one and two THOUSAND posts are shills ?
Now that probably does not include the guy who posts 19 or 20 or 21 times about the same lady because a lot of the almost 5,500 members would not call HIM/HER/IT a shill .......but they are !!!!!!!!!
Shack!
"It depends how much EC is posting. Based on recent history, they've been outed badly, with terbadmin searching and exposing their multiple posts from the same IP addresses."
Can you post the link to this thread?
"It depends how much EC is posting. Based on recent history, they've been outed badly, with terbadmin searching and exposing their multiple posts from the same IP addresses."
Can you post the link to this thread?
Sorry. I forget exactly which thread it was, but 1 of the culprits was BOOBGUY although he typed his name in some way that the "O"s looked like boobs. Oagre might remember, as he's usually right up to date on what's happening with EC.Foxhound said:Shack!
"It depends how much EC is posting. Based on recent history, they've been outed badly, with terbadmin searching and exposing their multiple posts from the same IP addresses."
Can you post the link to this thread?
Shack!
Boobguy is with Executive Choice?! What a scream! I just PMed him this link to my review of Cameron last week just because I thought he might be interested!
http://www.menbehavingbadly.ca/reviews/showthread.php?threadid=4225
Boobguy!
What do you have to say for yourself?
Boobguy is with Executive Choice?! What a scream! I just PMed him this link to my review of Cameron last week just because I thought he might be interested!
http://www.menbehavingbadly.ca/reviews/showthread.php?threadid=4225
Boobguy!
What do you have to say for yourself?
