Poor little Rollo! I am livid! - Part I

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Last October I noticed that a teenaged tomcat with an orange back and white stomach was hanging around my house and snacking on any food I was leaving on my porch for my neutred tom Ace. I started calling him Rollo because of the swirls in the orange part of his markings. He was a great cat. Lively, friendly, quick as greased lightning, he'd come whenever I whistled for Ace. If he spotted me walking down the street, he'd be at my heels following me home. He'd dash into my house at every opportunity just to explore it. When I picked him up to usher him out again, never did he scratch me. The only negative was that he terrorized Ace since not being neutred, he was a lot spunkier.

I started making some enquiries as to whose cat Rollo could be because I suspected he was a stray. I thought I might have to adopt him before the winter and impress on him and Ace that they were to get along. I learned after a week or so that I was a few days late. The woman four doors away, P, had already adopted him, taken him to the vet and got him neutred. All's well that end's well, I thought at the time.

Rollo continued to respond everytime I whistled though and he still eagerly followed me to the front door whenever he spotted me. He liked to roam out back near the railroad tracks.

The last time I saw him was late Saturday evening when he dashed into my front hallway where he was met by my hissing tom Ace. He dashed right out again. Fine. It wasn't at all cold.

But early Monday morning the temperature started to drop. By Monday afternoon, it was bitterly cold out. The temperature between Mondat afternoon and early this morning hovered between 0 and minus 5 Fahrenheit.

Around 11:00 PM Tuesday evening P saw me coming home and asked me whether I'd seen Rollo. She was outside looking for him. She said she had not seen him since Saturday and she'd left a note in my mailbox Monday. (The note was dated Sunday.) I hadn't seen the note because I hadn't checked the mailbox since the previous Friday.

I replaced the trenchcoat I was wearing over my suit with my heavy winter coat, put on a pair of boots and went roaming, calling and whistling for Rollo along the railroad tracks and along the adjacent streets for about forty minutes. No dice. No Rollo. I thought/hoped that somebody had taken Rollo in, given his friendly propensity to dash into people's houses. Ace often rooms at two other houses on the street.

I tried again Wednesday after work. Thursday P told me that a woman just down the street named D had told a mutual acquaintance that Rollo had been found dead - but she didn't know how or why. I was crestfallen. Rollo had been so full of life. Just last week I remember him lolling about on the driveway on his back from the simple joy of being alive. I was also racked by irrational guilt. You see this would all never have happened had I been the one to adopt Rollo. Moreover, what if he hadn't met Ace in the hallway and dashed outside again Saturday - or had that been Sunday?

I kept asking myself what and how much I would have done/risked/payed to save my poor little friend - but from what? Whatever - it was a lot. I resolved to ask D down the street what had happened to Rollo. This I did yesterday just before supper.

I found out that Rollo had been found frozen to death under a car in front of her house not even fifty metres from P's door Tuesday afternoon. Perhaps he'd been in someone's house but then sneaked/dashed out sometime Monday. It had turned bitterly cold during the day Monday. He would have gone underneath the car for the heat if it had just been driven and would have subsequently frozen to death eventually.
 

Hepcat

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Poor little rollo! I am livid! - Part II

Now I feel anger instead of irrational guilt. Rollo's death could have been prevented so easily.

1. Rollo wore no collar and tag. Had P put a tag on him, she would probably have been called by someone Sunday or Monday.

2. P said she looked for Rollo on Monday. But how? Did she just walk up and down streets? Was she too shy/embarassed to call loudly? I wouldn't have given a rat's ass what anybody thought! Rollo was well within hearing range of loud calling even from her door! Was she afraid of disturbing the neighbours? Piss on the neighbours! I routinely rattle all their nerves with my shrill whistle for my cats which brings them running/trotting from as far as two blocks away - even late at night! On the very rare occasions that two women have complained, I told them in no uncertain terms to live with it/go to hell since I had no intention of desisting.

3. If anybody would have found Rollo, it would have been me. Not only because my whistle carries and he always responded, but I would have ploughed outside without hesitation even had it been far colder. I'm about as oblivious to cold as a person can be. Hell, I was just wearing a trenchcoat over my suit until late Tuesday evening when P told me Rollo was missing. That's when I put on a heavy coat and went searching the neighbourhood but of course by then it was too late for dear Rollo.

I would have found Rollo - and quickly, just by whistling. Why the fuck had she not taped the note to my door on Sunday? Or rapped on my door Monday morning? She put the note in my mailbox. What the hell kind of way is that to get my attention? As if I'm going to look in the mailbox very often for the junk mail and bills!

Damn. She butchered the job in every way - and poor little Rollo froze to death because whatever she did, she didn't get the job done. Damn, damn, damn!

Poor little Rollo!

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WhOiSyOdAdDy?

Shit happens... besides it was only a stray cat.. I am sure there is many more where that one came from
 

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Daddy I'm surprised in you. What an inconsiderate remark. The cat may or may not have been a stray, but he was obviously loveable regardless. I had a very large tom cat. He died in October at almost 19 years of age. He loved to convince the neighbours that he was hungry and so he eventually grew to a whopping 24 lbs. Anyway, the point is that we all need to show a bit more compassion in our world. There is no such thing as just a stray. They all matter and deserve to be loved. Just this weekend I adopted a cute pair of strays who were abandoned on our vet's doorstep. A pair of tortoise shell twins and my home seems so much warmer now.

Keep in mind too that some unfixed toms would never choose to come in out of the cold permanently. He knew where you lived and if he had wanted in badly enough he would have meowed at the door. If he answered to your whistle, he was certainly smart enough to make it to the door himself. Many cats choose to live life half on the street with the occasional handout. He sounds like a great cat who did things on his own terms.
 

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Sorry to hear about Rollo, Hep. The problem is that domesticated cats depend on people within an unnatural urban environment to a large degree.

It sounds like "P", wasn't responsible enough to take on such a task, or just didn't realise or care enough about the responsibility she took on. Her intentions were probably good, but not everyone is as aware and pro active as you, Hep.

It's entirely possible that if he had remained a "stray cat" he would have better survival instincts, but once more domesticated, cats do tend to become dependant on their "keepers".

We just took in a stray recently, which apparently was so malnourished it hadn't reached the size it should, for it's estimated age and as a result grew almost double the size in a matter of weeks. Turned out our kitten was actually almost a year old. After having had seven cats throughout my life ( one which lived to 25, another 23 ), I have mixed feelings on keeping animals as pets. We have decided to keep this one inside, somewhat contrary to my beliefs, but there's just too many fuckin' wackos out there.

PS Speaking of "strays", nothing Daddyio says ever surprises me.
 

Hepcat

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Poolie, I think P was moe incompetent than irresponsible. She had taken Rollo to the vet for his shots and that and kept him fed and sheltered. It's just that he loved to be outside and i think she bungled the search Sunday/Monday just like she bungled getting in touch with me. I'm afraid she might have walked down the street right by him but she wasn't calling out to him.

The other explanation is it might have been sheer rotten fate. He could have been in someone's house Monday in the daytime. He could have dashed out very late that evening. He was, like I say, very quick. And then he froze overnight.
 

Flower

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Fate works both for and against us!

I have rescued and fed many strays and while I don't pat myself on the back for all that I've helped, I kick myself for not being able to do more. I've trapped and taken feral kittens to an animal shelter where they assured me that the kittens would be socialized and found good homes. Since I couldn't take them in at the time, I had no other recourse other than allow them to live short unhappy lives in the street. I regret to this day, all the cats that I've taken to shelters and off the streets and hope that they found peace and good homes.

All too often in dealing with strays, our hearts tell us one thing and our heads another. I've had neighbors that cursed and harrassed me for attempting to help these poor souls and in the end, I took in three feral kittens, my parents one and I gave one to my cousin, so at least 5 found good homes. I can't understand how people could be bothered if a stray cat comes to soak up the sun on their patio on a cold winter's day. I hate cruelty in any form.

In some ways, neglect is the greatest form of cruelty as these little souls place all their trust in you and depend upon you for all their need. It is so sad when someone's neglect or incompetence has let them down. I wrote this poem for Rollo ....


A day so cold, its froze your heart
I fear the pain, its yet to start
I think of all that's been done wrong
If I was weak, or just not strong
I sit here now, I cry, reflect
Upon the things that I affect.
Within my mind, I now explore
If only I had done some more.
I miss you so, what can I say?
There will not be another day.
First, I held you against my cheek,
I knew it then, you were unique.
Playing with you was such a treat
You would never admit defeat.
I laughed as I watched you race
through my door, right in front of Ace,
You knew the score, you did not scare,
For my love, you wanted your share.
I smiled as you rolled in the sun
How I enjoyed your silly fun.
And when I did my sharp whistle,
You came racing like a missle.
Your love of fun, your spirit gentle.
Now I'm getting sentimental.
Why does life have to be unkind?
And leave my heart in such a bind?
I miss you so, my little pet.
Good-bye Rollo, I'll not forget.
 
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If I was going to get a cat it would be a stray one.
I can remember this little orangey marmalade kitten that started sneaking in my front porch years back. As a rule I don't like cats,
but I fell in love with Marmy as I called him.
I tryed to wheen him into the family with our 3 dogs except our one dog just could not get along.
I found a good home for him and happy to say he grew up to be a great cat.
 

Hepcat

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Sheik!

"What's my point? The cat might have been injured and crawled under the car."

I grilled D extensively on precisely this point. I also asked whether there was any evidence that Rollo had lapped up some anti-freeze. I was clutching at straws hoping that Rollo expired from something other than freezing, because freezing was so completely avoidable. No dice.

Worse yet, every time I feel the sting of cold this winter, I'm going to think of Rollo's fate and scowl and curse again.
 

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Hepcat I am sorry for your loss. I am a cat and dog owner and have had to consider the inside outside issue with my cats. We were once apartment dwellers and they were declawed and never out. When I moved to a house it was always a struggle to keep them in as they were quick and relentless with escape attempts. I was worried they were unshcooled in the outside cat life and could not defend themselves should a fight take place. The move was seven years ago and both cats have worked their way outside they both desired freedom. It was easy to see that for them being out was what made life worth while. They eventually came and went on their own schedule during the day and early evening mostly staying in our yard, where my dog was the body guard. They later stayed out longer than I wished and started to move around the survey more. One of my neighbours asked if i was concerned with them being free and getting injured. At that point I rethought the issue and decided to keep them in they were so very unhappy with the change that I decided quality of life is just as improtant as longevity and let them free again. They are still fine and thriving and I am lucky to be graced by their attentions I also respect their quality of life. I do think that animals are not stupid and will express themselves if you care to listen. Allowing them to be out is a personal lifestlye choice and many may not agree with. I have taken some flak from different folks on the issue. I beleive it is my duty to see them happy and when they are dead remember them that way. Which is also how I choose to live my own life I would rather burn out than fade away. Gabby
 

Flower

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I both agree and disagree with what's being said!

I have had pets (dogs and cats) most of my life and almost all of my cats have been strays.

My Vet also strongly recommends keeping cats as indoor only pets, but life is rarely as it is on paper or as it should be. I've had strays adopt me who insisted on taking a walk every time that I walked the dog and who loved to also visit with the neighborhood children.

I've also had outdoor cats, that I've fed and cared for and were close to my heart but chose to live outside.

Each situation is different depending on where you live, the personality of the cat and your lifestyle. All that needs to be taken into consideration. When I moved over two years ago, I felt that I couldn't subject my two cats to the move (even going to the Vet, caused trauma) or to life in a small apartment. They now live with my parents, have space to run and a large screened room where they hang out most of the time watching the birds and squirrels that my mother feeds. They were both strays, Dakota was found both spayed and declawed, living in an area where foxes, raccoons and possums roam, she refuses to go near a door or outside but has the fresh air and "outside adventure" of the screened porch.

There are compromises that can be made, I pass by a home where the owners have enclosed a section of their yard, including a tree as a mini cat sanctuary with a "doggie door" that goes into the house. The cats are outside in basically a huge cage but have the best of both worlds.

Again, a lot depends upon where you live and the personality of your pet. Myself, if I lived in a quiet area and if my cat desired to be outside, I would weigh the issues and more than likely install a pet door of some type. I would never allow even an indoor pet to not have tags and a collar as you never know when something can happen.

Yes it is safer to keep you cat inside where there are less dangers but we all have to weigh what is better for each individual animal. I am fully aware that stats show that indoor only cats lead longer lives, but I wonder if they are happier or fuller for every cat. While in theory, I do not disagree with my vet, in practice I do and feel that this is a case by case issue.
 

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3. If anybody would have found Rollo, it would have been me. Not only because my whistle carries and he always responded, but I would have ploughed outside without hesitation even had it been far colder. I'm about as oblivious to cold as a person can be. Hell, I was just wearing a trenchcoat over my suit until late Tuesday evening when P told me Rollo was missing. That's when I put on a heavy coat and went searching the neighbourhood but of course by then it was too late for dear Rollo.

I would have found Rollo - and quickly, just by whistling. Why the fuck had she not taped the note to my door on Sunday? Or rapped on my door Monday morning? She put the note in my mailbox. What the hell kind of way is that to get my attention? As if I'm going to look in the mailbox very often for the junk mail and bills!

Damn. She butchered the job in every way - and poor little Rollo froze to death because whatever she did, she didn't get the job done. Damn, damn, damn!
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Luckily you put your heavy coat on, I shudder when I think of what could of happened......................That lady should be charged OMG!!


Come on.... get a grip!!







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Hepcat

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Jerbear!

I'm confused why JB would say that.
Evidently he's forgotten the beating he took last year from another member with whom we're both familiar. Not to worry. I'm just the one to remind him.

Johnboy!

Come on.... get a grip!!
I seem to recall that it was you who ended up losing his grip on a similar subject a year ago. It had something to do with some lurid fantasy of yours with respect to that nasty Foxhound and your kids. I understand though. Foxie is a bad dog....

Your Hilarious!!!
BTW, Johnboy, you're lucky mangling the English language is not a capital offence. See below.

Dr. Watchson!

just shoot the damn thing
Oh come on! I mean even somebody like Johnboy is entitled to his opinion! Just because I don't agree (or because he mangles his English) doesn't give me any right to shoot him, does it?

:p
 

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I`m confused why JB would say that.
Just a wild guess, but johnnyboy probably doesn`t view compassion as a sign of manhood or possibly even sees it as a sign of weakness. In fact, any male who is secure, will feel no need for displays of machismo grandstanding or to wear their masculinity on their sleeve and have no fear in showing a less than "macho" side.

He doesn`t know and has never met Hepcat, obviously.

This thread may shed some light on your confusion Firearms? Good or Bad?

OK, so the Jonathan and Tiffondra scenario is funny and I agree, scary, but your view of male and female roles is somewhat skewed and archaic.
 

johnyboy

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I was just trying to defend the old lady...I mean come on give her a break.

Just because people do not live up to your fluffy standard of compassion...dosen't mean they do not have a big heart it is called putting things into perspective. I wouldn't let anything suffer but jeeze buddy they old lady tried,,next thing you know she will be up for felineslaughter.

I can appreciate you were maybe just venting.

I serve at a food kitchen and treat those people like gold and do everthing I can to make them feel like they got a friend..I do care


Pool
sorry but you got some work to do yet..before you kill this thread

As for Foxhound Whatever...I think everyone on here is really cool and I feel privledged to be a small part. Foxhounds comment about doing my daughter to get back at me was precisely the kind of thing that I am very compassionate about. When I think of child porn, prostitution, sexual assaults and all the rest of that fucking garbage I do not have an ounce of shit for anyone who even jokes about it or uses it as a slam. Disgusting.

Now leave me alone or I am gonna cry!!
 

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Hindsight is 20/20. Furthermore, assigning blame is only a futile attempt to gain control over that which is lost or past our control. Hepcat it is not like you to be weepy and emotional like a woman. :) You're a rich stockbroker that believes in laissez-faire capitalism and non-socialistic agendas... get with the program.
 
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