So can an Indy refocus her services around therapeutic skills, with a licence naturally, and fall into the grey zone ?
Possible for C-36 to be immediatley S.C.C. CHALLENGED once Law.
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She could get a holistic license because that isn't location-specific. But she'd have to go to trade school for the diploma required to join the appropriate associations to qualify for the license.
A body rub license is location-specific. An attendant is licensed at said location only.
An RMT degree takes years and isn't worth risking to perform sexual services.
So your with Muse !! I do luv a good massage, I'm going to have to visit you soon. Any recommendations ?
" Ultimately, I don't think the crown is going to go crazy on the commercial enterprise provisions as they are very vulnerable to a challenge. The Bedford decision put very strongly that individuals that contribute to sex worker safety cannot be criminalized as it would be sex workers in danger. Agencies and Massage Parlours that allow sex workers the safety of an indoor environment and may hire security/surveillance shouldn't be criminalized where there is a mutual benefit between parties "
I echo TeasePlease's comments. Looks like you got some sound, legal advice, which I will remember in the back burner.
Ah ah. Finest was quoting the astute Mr. Bobcat40. Due credit now given.
Several people here deeply misunderstand the political objectives of conservative government. They think that the government will shy away from prosecutions that are likely to be challenged to the SCC. On the contrary, the government will prioritize such cases.
This is the same political blunder that caused these mostly the same people to think c36 wouldn't happen.
The Tories are ideologically opposed to the very idea of an activist supreme court. They do not fear it. They do not quake at the prospect of the SCC overturning the will if Parliament. They relish the fight.
They intend to send case after case to the SCC that will highlight that the SCC is at odds with Parliament to make a long term argument that the court needs to be reformed and made into a less activist court.
Their long game is SCC reform and they intend to go toe to toe with the court in order to build up a case for SCC reform. Thus they have intentionally and repeatedly taken actions that have forced the court into an activist pair, rejecting appointments, challenging parliamentary authority, challenging law.
To the C long term roadmap the SCC overturning parts of C36 is a gift that provides additional data on the need to reform the court.
They will aim for aggressive implementation of the most controversial provisions in order to create a showdown with the court, and they perceive that they win that showdown politically even when the city rules against Parliament (in fact, especially then).
This is the same political blunder that caused these mostly the same people to think c36 wouldn't happen.
The Tories are ideologically opposed to the very idea of an activist supreme court. They do not fear it. They do not quake at the prospect of the SCC overturning the will if Parliament. They relish the fight.
They intend to send case after case to the SCC that will highlight that the SCC is at odds with Parliament to make a long term argument that the court needs to be reformed and made into a less activist court.
Their long game is SCC reform and they intend to go toe to toe with the court in order to build up a case for SCC reform. Thus they have intentionally and repeatedly taken actions that have forced the court into an activist pair, rejecting appointments, challenging parliamentary authority, challenging law.
To the C long term roadmap the SCC overturning parts of C36 is a gift that provides additional data on the need to reform the court.
They will aim for aggressive implementation of the most controversial provisions in order to create a showdown with the court, and they perceive that they win that showdown politically even when the city rules against Parliament (in fact, especially then).
You are forgetting that enforcement are the ones who implement law. Not politicians. Several cities & provinces have denounced the law. So you think Harper himself is going to go personally & enforce? Or make people enforce? Is he gonna pay for that? Lol! Now you are just talking crazy talk.
The SCC is not taking any activist stance, nor challenging parliament authority. They simply apply the Charter, which is the highest law in the land, superseding all the other ones.
And like MPAsquared said, you seem to not realize the separation of legal power. Parliament's job is completely over with C-36. They have no influence on what happens next and Harper is not the one choosing which cases go to court. If Harper wants to have the province and crown on board for enforcement he should have made sure to consult them beforehand.
Harper and company didn't consult the provinces and municipalities when they are creating bill c-36
" They will aim for aggressive implementation of the most controversial provisions in order to create a showdown with the court, and they perceive that they win that showdown politically even when the city rules against Parliament (in fact, especially then). " by Fuji
SORRY but they DO NOT have jurisdiction to make Local officials & police enforce any law. In fact City of Vancouver has published the following
http://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/city-response-to-passing-of-bill-c-36.aspx
Our response to the passing of Bill C-36
November 7 2014
Vancouver City Hall
The City is concerned with the passing of Bill C-36, Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, as research confirms that criminalization of sex workers puts people engaged in sex work at further risk of increased violence.
The passing of Bill C-36:
•Undermines the health and safety of sex workers
•Increases social exclusion and pushes sex workers to work in more isolated areas
What this decision means for the City going forward
Going forward, the collective focus needs to continue to be on the health and safety of sex workers and the communities that they live and work. The City remains committed to this, and in October 2014, Mayor and Council adopted Vancouver’s Healthy City Strategy, which identifies 13 goals, including:
•Safety and inclusion
•To promote health and well-being for all
•A target to make Vancouver the safest major city in Canada by reducing crimes, including sexual assault, year-over-year
The City will continue to work in partnership with community groups and the provincial government to minimize safety risks and harms for sex workers. This includes:
•Addressing all forms of exploitation and abuse
•Providing opportunities for education and awareness
•Enabling access to health and social service gaps
•Creating transitioning opportunities for those seeking to exit
City urged the federal government to refer the proposed legislation to the Supreme Court
In submissions to the Federal Government, the City urged that the proposed legislation be referred to the Supreme Court to ensure its compliance with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the spirit of the Bedford Decision: prioritizing the health, safety and dignity of those it’s declared to protect. The City also asked that there be consultation, which previously did not take place, with municipalities across the country on potential impacts.
In 2013 the City provided over $400,000 in grants to 11 community organizations to:
•Promote sex worker health and safety
•Address child and youth sexual exploitation
SORRY but they DO NOT have jurisdiction to make Local officials & police enforce any law. In fact City of Vancouver has published the following
http://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/city-response-to-passing-of-bill-c-36.aspx
Our response to the passing of Bill C-36
November 7 2014
Vancouver City Hall
The City is concerned with the passing of Bill C-36, Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, as research confirms that criminalization of sex workers puts people engaged in sex work at further risk of increased violence.
The passing of Bill C-36:
•Undermines the health and safety of sex workers
•Increases social exclusion and pushes sex workers to work in more isolated areas
What this decision means for the City going forward
Going forward, the collective focus needs to continue to be on the health and safety of sex workers and the communities that they live and work. The City remains committed to this, and in October 2014, Mayor and Council adopted Vancouver’s Healthy City Strategy, which identifies 13 goals, including:
•Safety and inclusion
•To promote health and well-being for all
•A target to make Vancouver the safest major city in Canada by reducing crimes, including sexual assault, year-over-year
The City will continue to work in partnership with community groups and the provincial government to minimize safety risks and harms for sex workers. This includes:
•Addressing all forms of exploitation and abuse
•Providing opportunities for education and awareness
•Enabling access to health and social service gaps
•Creating transitioning opportunities for those seeking to exit
City urged the federal government to refer the proposed legislation to the Supreme Court
In submissions to the Federal Government, the City urged that the proposed legislation be referred to the Supreme Court to ensure its compliance with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the spirit of the Bedford Decision: prioritizing the health, safety and dignity of those it’s declared to protect. The City also asked that there be consultation, which previously did not take place, with municipalities across the country on potential impacts.
In 2013 the City provided over $400,000 in grants to 11 community organizations to:
•Promote sex worker health and safety
•Address child and youth sexual exploitation
Yup, you've got him nailed. He is one of those guys who thinks his fantasies are the truth. Of course the government isn't in the position to enforce. The fact that he keeps missing This suggests that either he actually isn't missing it, and is just fucking with us, or that he simply is unable to adjust himself when facts get in the way of his ideas. Long ago he was lecturing us all how sex, attraction, and relationships work, insisting his idiotic view was the only possible one. For him it is, because he simply can't imagine a point of view that isn't identical to his. He can't get inside anyone else's head. He's trapped being Fuji. He's happy there, no doubt, since nothing can threaten his understanding of reality. Not the kind of guy EVER to learn a lesson. Glad he can't get any closer to me than TERB. Because, I bet, despite what he'd have us believe, he's actually pretty much a failure at life. We certainly know he's a bore. People who can't learn always meet their wall, and the rest of life just passes them by.
I don't doubt it, but don't they need to be in office to accomplish any of this?
Oh yeah... this too.
