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The underlying law which govern the smallest of particles is probability, you can not know for certain what exactly will happen. In larger pieces of matter, it does not really matter because the mean is what we look at, if one atom out of a trillion teleports itself into space, no one would miss it.

Einstein refused to believe in quantum mechanics because he said that god does not play dice. But I think it is god's role to ensure that the dice gets rolled as often as possible.

A crack addict can try many times to get off crack and fail, but if he tries often enough he will eventually get off it. A murderer can kill many people without getting caught, but as long as he keeps killing he will eventually get caught.

When you pray, God does not change the expected outcome but he/she changes the standard deviation for you, it is still up to you to try.
 
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Thank you for the serious replies.

In the book "The Secret" they write of quantum physics.

Has anyone read that book , and wish to comment about the above.
 
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A skeptic's viewpoint: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4096

Some claims in The Secret are simply factually wrong, and so fall apart under their own weight when scrutinized. Specifically, The Secret claims that quantum physics supports and explains the "Law of Attraction". At its most superficial, this claim sounds reasonable to the uncritical layperson because attraction sounds like magnetism which is a real scientific thing, and any mention of the term quantum physics sounds scientific enough to be acceptable at face value. Who's qualified to argue against quantum physics? The Secret says that thoughts have energy, and similar energies are attracted to each other. That's their quantum physics.

In fact, scientifically speaking, that statement is completely meaningless at every level, and at no level does it have anything whatsoever to do with real quantum physics. In fact, the closest analog I can find in science is that like charges repel one another, they do not attract. But we're talking about "thought energy" here, so we've already left the realm of real science and are in the world of metaphysics. Since metaphysics is a philosophical invention with no connection to real physics, either quantum or classical, you can pretty much say whatever you want and there is no scientific way to respond to it. Thus, The Secret's claim to have roots in quantum physics is childish and meaningless, yet it succeeds because it appeals to the uncritical layperson's tendency to accept scientific sounding terminology at face value. Check out Rhonda Byrne's background in quantum physics. You'll find that she took the same university courses that your cat did.
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bishop said:
The underlying law which govern the smallest of particles is probability, you can not know for certain what exactly will happen. In larger pieces of matter, it does not really matter because the mean is what we look at, if one atom out of a trillion teleports itself into space, no one would miss it.

Einstein refused to believe in quantum mechanics because he said that god does not play dice. But I think it is god's role to ensure that the dice gets rolled as often as possible.

A crack addict can try many times to get off crack and fail, but if he tries often enough he will eventually get off it. A murderer can kill many people without getting caught, but as long as he keeps killing he will eventually get caught.

When you pray, God does not change the expected outcome but he/she changes the standard deviation for you, it is still up to you to try.
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I will add that the simple act of observation of the really, really small stuff will cause it to change so we will never be able to fully understand it for that reason.

We can only say an electron has a "field of possibilities" ,as Depak Chopra says (now there is someone I would like to shoot) ,as we cannot be certain of its' location because observing it changes its behavior, for example
 
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Hank,

Hank Reardon said:
Thank you for the serious replies.

In the book "The Secret" they write of quantum physics.

Has anyone read that book , and wish to comment about the above.
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I actually did study quantum physics, and have the degree hanging on the wall.
I have not read "The Secret" however, as I expect it to be primarily new age codswallop. I would sooner look to the literary Hank Reardon for information on the actual methods of success than Rhonda Byrne.
That said, if there is a specific physics statement therein you were curious about, please quote it and I will comment as best I can.
 
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Cycleguy007 said:
Where's Joy when you need her? As a registered scientist, she may be able to shed some light for you...
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She's also a spectacular example of harmonic motion.
 
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