Quixtar?
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It's the new name for Amway, in North America at least. It's not a scam per se, just very difficult to make money at. Also, a lot of unscrupulous characters have been associated with it over the years, which has given it a really bad name. Just do a google search, you'll find lots of stuff that'll curl your hair 
Was conned into joining back when I was younger and less wise. Promised easy money, little work, and no selling involved... Ya - RIGHT!
Don't get me wrong - if you are a "people" person and really good at selling things then you can make money - but it is a lot of work and effort.
Basically it is a 'legal' pyramid scheme.
Don't get me wrong - if you are a "people" person and really good at selling things then you can make money - but it is a lot of work and effort.
Basically it is a 'legal' pyramid scheme.
DO NOT GO WITH QUIXTAR.
How many fucking times do I have to encounter this shithole company in my life.
Absolutely do not purchase or become an affilliate.
Are you destitute for money? Do you wish all of your friends would just go away and leave you alone? Do you wish you were a big fucking loser who's house is filled with crap that nobody in their right mind would want to buy from someone's house? If you answered yes, then you have a very promising, as promising as shit can get, future with Quixtar.
Oh wait, just wait, quixtar is also amway. You remember that name? Amway? They won't tell you but if you do a lot of research, the root ends at Amway.
Cheers and I really fucking hope you either do not join or join and blow your head off. Because if you join, that's exactly what you're going to want to do or at least your used-to-be friends will want to.
How many fucking times do I have to encounter this shithole company in my life.
Absolutely do not purchase or become an affilliate.
Are you destitute for money? Do you wish all of your friends would just go away and leave you alone? Do you wish you were a big fucking loser who's house is filled with crap that nobody in their right mind would want to buy from someone's house? If you answered yes, then you have a very promising, as promising as shit can get, future with Quixtar.
Oh wait, just wait, quixtar is also amway. You remember that name? Amway? They won't tell you but if you do a lot of research, the root ends at Amway.
Cheers and I really fucking hope you either do not join or join and blow your head off. Because if you join, that's exactly what you're going to want to do or at least your used-to-be friends will want to.
I have personally never been a partner or member of Quixtar or Amway but I have discarded many friends who have. They become fanatical. All they do when they are around is talk about the shit and if you want to buy or join.
It isn't "sort of" like a pyramid, it IS a pyramid.
It's only legal because they found loopholes.
It isn't "sort of" like a pyramid, it IS a pyramid.
It's only legal because they found loopholes.
I sat in and listen to one of these "Meetings" in early 2000s. What I noticed is that all the people sitting in the front two rows were either young or fresh off the boat.romes said:
In a traditional business model, you have a good or service people want. You make money by serving as many people as possible. In the Quixtar model, you want to recruit as many Independant Business Owner (IBO) to make money. Notice the subtle difference? The "serving" and "recruiting" part.
What you probably don't know is that CRA is denying expenses related to these annual conventions to the USA because the expenses were excessive. Read paragraph 50 and 51 from here:
http://132.204.136.40/ca/cas/tcc/2004/2004tcc10.html.
All in all, if you think you can do well recruiting people, then Quixtar is suited for you.
thats quite the review, not to stick up for them by any means, but then why are they so successful as their sales suggest?
Why do you say cult like? Isnt it simply a bunch of people who have a common interest in something? I read some of the stuff off the net, but its tuff to depict the fact from fiction etc etc. Any personal stories?
Why do you say cult like? Isnt it simply a bunch of people who have a common interest in something? I read some of the stuff off the net, but its tuff to depict the fact from fiction etc etc. Any personal stories?
Well said!!
Hey,
Well said. If you want to alienate your friends/family and piss your boss off then join. Back in the mid 1990's some people I worked with got into amway/quixtar. They annoyed the fuck out of all of us with their " I will be driving a caddy in 6 months, and you will still be driving that................. It is residual income, you can't lose.... " Phoning me up after 9pm to ask me to come to a local pep rally, and annoying the hell out of me untill I went, and of course, they knew they were going to be getting laid off, but yet they still pissed every penny they had into it. Do you really want to be a part of this loser cult? Not me!!
Hey,
Well said. If you want to alienate your friends/family and piss your boss off then join. Back in the mid 1990's some people I worked with got into amway/quixtar. They annoyed the fuck out of all of us with their " I will be driving a caddy in 6 months, and you will still be driving that................. It is residual income, you can't lose.... " Phoning me up after 9pm to ask me to come to a local pep rally, and annoying the hell out of me untill I went, and of course, they knew they were going to be getting laid off, but yet they still pissed every penny they had into it. Do you really want to be a part of this loser cult? Not me!!
crocket said:
People were taking their money out of their RRSP's so that they could purchase overpriced Amway soap so that they would reach the next "level", the way it works is you have to get the people "under" you (kinda like a pyramid lol) to buy the goods but when no one is buying the goods, you have to buy the goods with your own money so that you reach a certain level every month. Upon reaching a certain level you would receive a 100 dollar check every month, the problem is you were spending 500 dollars to make $100. Then there was the meetings you had to go to every week where they try to brainwash you and the tapes that you had to listen to every week, they charged you $10 US dollars for these tapes which probably cost 10 cents to make. I know quite a few people who were heavily into Amway 10 years ago and they are still driving the same shitboxes they were 10 years ago !!! Play 649 your chances are much better !!
You should invest in reading. He said the peopled cashed in their RRSP's. Not that RRSP's have anything to do with Quixstarcrocket said:
I was part of Quixtar about 4 years ago. I had finished my MBA
during the worst job market in ten years, so I guess I was just
thrilled that someone wanted me. Anyway, I joined but didn't
find out about the real business model until I paid to get in ($250
USD).
Everyone's comments are basically on target. One would buy
lists and call people to try to get them into the business. Quixtar
seriously pushed its cosmetic and household product lines. My
spouse wouldn't let me call friends and family so I had no "warm
list" as its called in network marketing. I dropped out after the
national conference after listening to all these lunatics. I also
got tired of listening to the stupid tapes.
The irony of this is my spouse is in a network marketing business
and is a fanatic. She makes about $7k monthly. She says the
same things to potential members that she used to criticize me for
saying. If it weren't for the money, I'd tell her to get out. It
has at least partially ruined our lives.
Crownandseven
during the worst job market in ten years, so I guess I was just
thrilled that someone wanted me. Anyway, I joined but didn't
find out about the real business model until I paid to get in ($250
USD).
Everyone's comments are basically on target. One would buy
lists and call people to try to get them into the business. Quixtar
seriously pushed its cosmetic and household product lines. My
spouse wouldn't let me call friends and family so I had no "warm
list" as its called in network marketing. I dropped out after the
national conference after listening to all these lunatics. I also
got tired of listening to the stupid tapes.
The irony of this is my spouse is in a network marketing business
and is a fanatic. She makes about $7k monthly. She says the
same things to potential members that she used to criticize me for
saying. If it weren't for the money, I'd tell her to get out. It
has at least partially ruined our lives.
Crownandseven
The average person living in a big city cannot recruit more than 2.5 people for this type of venture.....one of the many reasons why this scam doesn't work. They make they money off seminars, tapes and suckers who join.
Here's some related clips to help us all in regards to Quixtar and other MLMs. I do admit that after reading the number of posts regarding Primerica, I am changing my mind about them and other MLMs. At first I kind of want to defend them as being something that is misunderstood, but as other posters stated, they do hire inexperience people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUZko6oKt3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b8rwcUVuAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdiSqE8D5cg
and a little clip from the office:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e9BA2RR6Ig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUZko6oKt3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b8rwcUVuAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdiSqE8D5cg
and a little clip from the office:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e9BA2RR6Ig
As with most things in life, it all depends on your priorities. If you wish to allow yourself to become convinced that your current friends and family don't care about you if they don't join or buy from you, and your real friends are your upline, you are helping to make rich, and will make you rich along the way, and therefore financial gain without conscience and at the cost of losing friends and family and likely also causing them and others you sucker pain, then it is for you.
It can also be for you if you like some of the main line products and service and just casually sell to those who may ask, without neccesarily focusing on getting rich.
Important thing is decide where you fit, and if you are going to be a purchaser then don't buy the tapes or go to the conferences or meetings. These things are all designed to motivate you and make you believe you will over come any and all challenges and will be rich.
The upline cash in big time on the tapes and conferences. That is where a lot of the 'Amway' money is made, and where a lot of the controversy comes from. Especially the one guy who has been like a master pyramid builder.
Many of the main line products are very good. A lot of brand name items tend to be a little overpriced, and more a matter of delivery convenience, if it's worth it to you. Once in a while there actually are some good deals that come along, but they are far and few between. No matter what anybody tells you, the coffee sucks, and it is expensive.
For quite a while there was a sort of mantra they would go on about to justify hitting on every warm body for sales - drink spit flush and pour.
The things that are consistently good quality and value are the majority of the cleaning products. Essentially the root of the original business.
To make it 'big' in this kind of network marketing, you also have to be very confident, and basically a very arrogant personallity, without showing your arrogance outwardly most of the time, unless you need to turn it on to embaress some one in to joining. As well, as mentioned in an earlier post, you also have to be a people person and leave people beliving you care about them and like them, and be very likeable too. Unless of course thier PV and BV drops below where it has any value to your business. Then you can ignore them again.
It can also be for you if you like some of the main line products and service and just casually sell to those who may ask, without neccesarily focusing on getting rich.
Important thing is decide where you fit, and if you are going to be a purchaser then don't buy the tapes or go to the conferences or meetings. These things are all designed to motivate you and make you believe you will over come any and all challenges and will be rich.
The upline cash in big time on the tapes and conferences. That is where a lot of the 'Amway' money is made, and where a lot of the controversy comes from. Especially the one guy who has been like a master pyramid builder.
Many of the main line products are very good. A lot of brand name items tend to be a little overpriced, and more a matter of delivery convenience, if it's worth it to you. Once in a while there actually are some good deals that come along, but they are far and few between. No matter what anybody tells you, the coffee sucks, and it is expensive.
For quite a while there was a sort of mantra they would go on about to justify hitting on every warm body for sales - drink spit flush and pour.
The things that are consistently good quality and value are the majority of the cleaning products. Essentially the root of the original business.
To make it 'big' in this kind of network marketing, you also have to be very confident, and basically a very arrogant personallity, without showing your arrogance outwardly most of the time, unless you need to turn it on to embaress some one in to joining. As well, as mentioned in an earlier post, you also have to be a people person and leave people beliving you care about them and like them, and be very likeable too. Unless of course thier PV and BV drops below where it has any value to your business. Then you can ignore them again.
