Raptors Win NBA Draft Lottery!!!

[Choron]

Not only did Garnett and Mitchell play together, but Mitchell is somewhat of a mentor to KG. Mitchell took Garnett under his wing when he broke in as a high-schooler.
That being said, Garnett still won't be a Raptor anytime soon. The Wolves are going to have a tough time trading him given his salary. Very few teams can a. take on that salary and b. have equal salary to trade back to the Wolves. What I mean by that is while every team has big contracts they wouldn't mind unloading, the Wolves won't want to take them on.
The Wolves will either have to accept a trade that includes a star with a big contract (Iverson for example) or some promising youngsters & picks, along with some bad but expiring contracts, or just unload Garnett and get whatever you can for him just to take his contract off the books. Either way, the Wolves will be hard pressed to get equal value for him.
There had been a rumour circulating a few weeks back about KG to New Jersey in exchange for a package involving Wince Carter and Nenad Krstic.

Well since we have 20 million cap space already as is, we could easily take on his salary as we don't need to give it back...(since we have the room)

Also Kristic trade won't happen the Nets like him too much, though this could happen for AI I could see that trade(without Nenad as he isn't going anywhere)

Iverson for Garnett wouldn't happen either as the Sixers already have C-Webb at PF...

 

[wrong hole]

We only have 10 mill under the cap this year(20 mill for next year if we don't resign our free agents)


but Garnett is not worth his monster salary...he's not a winner - alot of people will say he didn't have the talent around him, that's BS - remember when the T-wolves had the best record in the league 2 to 3 yrs ago (and argulably the most talent that yr). Garnett still couldn't carry the team to the finals (lost in 3rd round)

Garnett is one of those guys who gets great numbers but can't win (he chokes in critical moments of games)....like mike james this year

...and his salary which is bigger then Duncans and maybe Shaq (but I think they are close) is totally not deserved having only pass the first round of the play-offs once

 

[Choron]

What would you people think about a possible trade for Stephon Marburry or Steve Francis from the Knicks?

I'm not sure what we could offer exactly but it sounds very tempting...As far as if either would play here, I am not sure... That is something for the complex world of sports agents and organizations to decide... haha

 

[the_big_E]

Knicks will have a tough time unloading either Marbury or Francis. Why they acquired Francis still remains a mystery to me...and the Raptors dont need either of those guys. They are not pass first point guards and I think thats what the Raptors need in terms of a PG in my opinion.

 

[slowandeasy]

Why they acquired Francis still remains a mystery to me...and the Raptors dont need either of those guys. They are not pass first point guards and I think thats what the Raptors need in terms of a PG in my opinion.

Come on man think, think.... The Raps have had two of the worse GMs in history... one of them is currently in New York...

 

[Choron]

What do you think we'd have to trade to get another high pick in the draft for a Marcus Williams or a Rudy Gay?

 

[Choron]

yeah i agree i like aldridge but man those 3 guys CV, CB and LA are going to be hurting when they play against a real big center(ie yao or shaq)

Its too bad we can't aquire Rudy Gay as well... I love the guys game and I think he will turn out the rookie of the year...

 

[slowandeasy]

yeah i agree i like aldridge but man those 3 guys CV, CB and LA are going to be hurting when they play against a real big center(ie yao or shaq)

Its too bad we can't aquire Rudy Gay as well... I love the guys game and I think he will turn out the rookie of the year...

How many real centres are there in the league right now?? With those 3 we will create real matchup problems and we will have 3 guys who are almost 7' tall.....

 

[frankcastle]

Aldridge is on the light side but he can work out and add a bit of weight not to mention that perhaps his speed will create problems for some of the bigger but slower centres. Besides with the top centres like say Shaq, Duncan and Yao they are most often defended by double teams..... why because there are few who can defend them one on one. It's not realistic to expect to draft a centre or even sign a free agent that can fill that bill.

Bottom line the raps need a centre so either draft LA who seems to be the best centre in the draft or sign a free agent. But being realistic whoever they get will not be able to stop guys like Shaq on their own.

The best we can hope for is a centre that can score enough that opposing centres have to honour his presence thus spreading out the floor (in addition to adding some rebounds and blocked shots to the stat sheet).

 

[Choron]

Aldridge is on the light side but he can work out and add a bit of weight not to mention that perhaps his speed will create problems for some of the bigger but slower centres. Besides with the top centres like say Shaq, Duncan and Yao they are most often defended by double teams..... why because there are few who can defend them one on one. It's not realistic to expect to draft a centre or even sign a free agent that can fill that bill.

Bottom line the raps need a centre so either draft LA who seems to be the best centre in the draft or sign a free agent. But being realistic whoever they get will not be able to stop guys like Shaq on their own.

The best we can hope for is a centre that can score enough that opposing centres have to honour his presence thus spreading out the floor (in addition to adding some rebounds and blocked shots to the stat sheet).

It is realistic to draft a center that can fill the bill...See Greg Oden whom we got fucked out of this year...Fucking bullshit high school draft rules...First fucking year too...

Does anyone else feel like we should've had the rights to Oden like me?

 

[frankcastle]

It is realistic to draft a center that can fill the bill...See Greg Oden whom we got fucked out of this year...Fucking bullshit high school draft rules...First fucking year too...

Does anyone else feel like we should've had the rights to Oden like me?

Seeing as we can only draft #1 from this years pool it really isn't realistic.

Furthermore, we should have been drafting 5th this year so I don't see us as getting ripped off.

If anyone has a right to feeling ripped off of not getting him it would be the team that had the best statistical chance of getting the #1 pick.

The raps have to work within the available pool so it's unrealistic to talk about a player that is not available.

The quality of drafts varies from year to year and we happen to have a year with no clear #1. Just the way it goes. I think they should draft whoever they think will help the team the most. Size is highly overrated..... e.g. Arujo an example of where size didn't help him and Ben Wallace as an example of a guy who's not the tallest but a great defender (mind you wallace is ripped).

I'd rather a talented guy who might get banged around by a select few guys who are bigger versus a big guy who gets beat by everyone.

 

[Choron]

ok talking about all the statistics doens't change the fact that because of a NEW RULE we cannot get a fair shot at Oden this year...

 

[slowandeasy]

ok talking about all the statistics doens't change the fact that because of a NEW RULE we cannot get a fair shot at Oden this year...

I was more pissed off when the NBA and it's owners did not allow the Raps or Grizzlies to have the #1 overall draft when they first entered the league......

The timing of getting the #1, Oden coming out of shcool and the NBA refusing to allow high school players to enter the draft is definitely shitty... but you life goes on.....

 

[Choron]

lol I actually hope we don't have a shot at Oden next year becuase I hope we make the playoffs

 

[frankcastle]

ok talking about all the statistics doens't change the fact that because of a NEW RULE we cannot get a fair shot at Oden this year...

All teams have the same shot at him this year. None. That sounds pretty fair to me. I really don't think the Raps are so bad of a team that we have to worry about some inelgible draft pick. If the raps deem that he is that important they can always trade or keep their fingers crossed to get him.

The rule changed happened before we knew who would get the #1 pick so I think it's fair.

I think that if the raps pick a guy like Lamarcus and sign a solid PG concerns about the team will be dramatically less next year anyways.

Who knows maybe the raps will luck out again next year. Do they have any outstanding draft picks for next years draft owing from other teams.... perhaps a team that might be in the running for #1 pick? nah that 'd be wishful thinking.

 

[Choron]

nah we'd only have our own...and that's if Babcock didn't already trade it away during his tenure...lmao

 

[frankcastle]

A team would have to feel pretty good if that kind of situation happened.... make the playoffs but still get #1 through some sort of prior deal. I can't see Babcock leaving the Raps with any sort of a gift of that type. Chances are he would have traded down instead of up.

This may sound crazy but if the east doesn't change too much the Raps might have a chance seeing as near 500 ball can get you into the playoffs in the east.

 

[Choron]

I was saying Babcock was a shithead not praising him... Like I said unless he didn't already trade away our pick during his previous tenure with us then our pick is likely to be in the 12-18 range next year...

 

[frankcastle]

Wow you're optimistic! I hope you're right about where the Raps will draft as that would be a much improved season for them in terms of W's and L's.

 

[slowandeasy]

I really don't think the Raps are so bad of a team that we have to worry about some inelgible draft pick.

Who knows maybe the raps will luck out again next year. Do they have any outstanding draft picks for next years draft owing from other teams.... perhaps a team that might be in the running for #1 pick? nah that 'd be wishful thinking.

I agree that we should focus on what we have... but what games were you watching last year??? At times the team looked terrible... especially at the beginning of the year

I do agree that a good draft, and a solid free agent signing will really improve this team.

I also would like to add that we need some dramatic improvement from Sam Mitchell as far as getting the team prepared, set plays and better movement on the offence.... I am so glad that I finally stopped hearing him complain that he needs someone who will rebound or play defence or whatever...

I think that if Sam does not show that he can get the team committed to playing a running game and make better defensive adjustments, he will be gone by the end of the season... I really like his energy, enthusiasm, hardwork and style.....but....