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thomsonvia

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I don’t think anyone has explained this here yet, so I will make an attempt. Body rub parlours are not legally supposed to be offering extras. They can be shut down for this. And so posting about extra services puts the business itself at risk.

I have absolutely no idea why and how a business in Toronto or Montreal would feel safe posting a fee for full service if that’s happening, but it’s not legal and they’re playing with fire. Only independent, sex workers can advertise and offer sexual services. Third parties cannot.

This is why you should reach out directly to a provider to find out what they offer and for how much. And it makes sense when you think about it, only we can logically discuss our own boundaries and choose who we want to offer sexual services to.
Makes sense! Didn't know that it can cause serious problems for agencies.
I don’t think anyone has explained this here yet, so I will make an attempt. Body rub parlours are not legally supposed to be offering extras. They can be shut down for this. And so posting about extra services puts the business itself at risk.

I have absolutely no idea why and how a business in Toronto or Montreal would feel safe posting a fee for full service if that’s happening, but it’s not legal and they’re playing with fire. Only independent, sex workers can advertise and offer sexual services. Third parties cannot.

This is why you should reach out directly to a provider to find out what they offer and for how much. And it makes sense when you think about it, only we can logically discuss our own boundaries and choose who we want to offer sexual services to.
Thank you for clearing that up! Do you think Clubs can provide that info if I reach out? I had no issue communicating with Independent providers, got hardly any response from MAs.
 
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NadiaLovechanko

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Makes sense! Didn't know that it can cause serious problems for agencies.

Thank you for clearing that up! Do you think Clubs can provide that info if I reach out? I had no issue communicating with Independent providers, got hardly any response from MAs.
The most a club can say is "She is GFE" even then its a grey line

ALWAYS REACH OUT TO THE MA YOURSELF

If someone doesn't answer that's okay, you'll have to ask in room
But I think you draft a proper message to someone they would answer. (if not their loss)
Do more than the "hey" "you available?" "BBJ"

Introduce yourself, how long you are looking to book, a bit about yourself & what you are looking for
Being polite and straight forward goes a long way!

I think everyone should be upfront on what they offer / don't but that's just me 😅
 

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Makes sense! Didn't know that it can cause serious problems for agencies.

Thank you for clearing that up! Do you think Clubs can provide that info if I reach out? I had no issue communicating with Independent providers, got hardly any response from MAs.
I’m just speaking from my own knowledge and experience as an independent but with colleagues who work or worked as MAs, hybrids or FS providers at spa locations:

- some may not offer extras or not at the spa itself
- some may not want to decide what they will offer you over text, preferring to meet first
- some may not have time to deal with incoming messages, one of the advantages of working at an spa is that you don’t necessarily have to put in as much administrative work afterall and the starting price point for a basic service is low
- you may not be using their preferred method of contact
- some may already be busy with regulars
- your inquiry may be lacking, too laborious or not interesting to the provider

If you’re not getting any response whatsoever, it’s best to change your approach or move on to someone else or another pool of SWs to find the appropriate fit. Sometimes you need to dip your toe in by booking a basic service and finding out what a session is like through experience, but once you have established an initial contact and rapport, future dates and more specific requests including extra services come easier.
 

thomsonvia

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I am using the same language and format I use with SPs. Format includes :

1) What I like about the provider
2) The reason why I want to spend time with the provider
3) My background
4) What are my service preferences
5) Ask about their preferences and restrictions if they haven't mentioned already
6) Clarify about rates

Looks like either I am missing something or text is too lengthy for MPs.

I think the best bet for me is to visit clubs, meet MAs and discuss in-person.

Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and tips!
 
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