RCMP: mutiny on the ottawa river
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Elliot's been in place some time now, and there's been little or no ostensible sign that the badly disfunctional force is changing, let alone for the better. Not a good sign. Assuming the government actually wanted change, perhaps it's a sign that expecting the same guy to figure out what was wrong and to impose the fix was way too optimistic. But when guys who call each other "Sir" and wear uniforms and salute jump ranks to carry tales, then you can't deny there are big problems. Unless maybe you're the government who believes in the easy fix and can't face the fallout from doing anything substantial to a national symbol. Particulary one so important out in its small western powerbase.
The real issue to face is that the Federal Police shouldn't also be provincial rent-a-cops. The jobs are way too different, and the numbers of personnel and vast geography make management hugely difficult. As the G20 troubles show, when you're running lotsa people with weaponry, your managers have to be right there with the right intelligence and giving the right orders. Not thousands of miles away in at HQ in Vanier, (or even a hundred miles in Barrie) imagining telephone lines and the internet are just as good.
The real issue to face is that the Federal Police shouldn't also be provincial rent-a-cops. The jobs are way too different, and the numbers of personnel and vast geography make management hugely difficult. As the G20 troubles show, when you're running lotsa people with weaponry, your managers have to be right there with the right intelligence and giving the right orders. Not thousands of miles away in at HQ in Vanier, (or even a hundred miles in Barrie) imagining telephone lines and the internet are just as good.
apparantly the "revolt" is from a group of old line Zicharelli supports who are near retirement and feel they have nothing to lose by trying to bring back the good old days.... Interesting concept but I would be really interested to see what happens if they are charge with conduct unbecoming, it carries a penalty of dismissal with disgrase which would cost them their pensions.... wonder if they feel like trying to carry on now.
There was widespread bitching and complaining from the senior ranks of the RCMP when he was appointed, most of which in my opinion was sour grapes from people who wanted the job and did not get it. There is now a precedent for appointing a civilian head of the RCMP from outside the force and a lot of high ranking people have now had the final step of the carrer path shut down.
The RCMP do answer to thier civilian superiors , until Elliot was appointed the people they answered to were a cabinet level civil servant , they did not ahve to answer to the huddled masses, with a civilian heading the force they are now accountable to somebody who may not neccisarily take the best interest of the force above the reality of civilian oversight, that bothers them they have not had to answer to that for generations and now they do.
The problem of local oversight being at a distance is one we are going to face in Canada geography is against . The solution is to make sure that local forces have the authority to deal with local problems in their neigborhoods, requiring approval from head office to deal with a local alchol or drug problem is rediculous, at the same time there are some things that need oversight the trick is a balance
His name was Zacardelli ....he was a real dirt bag. Firstly interfered with a federal election.. and then concealed exculpatory evidence in the Arar case hoping he would die in Syria and teh issue would blow over. But I agree with you on the idea. I think they should all be fired. I think the RCMP are such a mess, part of his job was to smoke out the rats. I say pound them and reinstill discipline in the ranks. I would go so far as passing legislation that says the RCMP commissioner cannot be promoted from the RCMP without special dispensation from the minister of justice. I also agree that the BC RCMP should be spun off to a provincial force. Cancel the contract and make them all reapply for their jobs. Offer the ones with a clean record a job automatically.
making a law for one specific instance or to correct one bad thing generally turns out to be a bad law. The concept of civilian control over the years has been winked at by the higher ups in the RCMP in that yes we answer to civilians sort of......
The need for civilian control and oversight has been shown to be neccisary over the years, Arar , the death in Vancover, the Schenanigans that resulted in CSIS being brought forth, all are the result of the Mounties not being held to account until after the fact, they were under the ipression that be the time something got to the civilian side everything could be sanitized. That has to stop .
The need for civilian control and oversight has been shown to be neccisary over the years, Arar , the death in Vancover, the Schenanigans that resulted in CSIS being brought forth, all are the result of the Mounties not being held to account until after the fact, they were under the ipression that be the time something got to the civilian side everything could be sanitized. That has to stop .
That really doesn't sound like Commissioner Elliot
Respectfully, I'm not at all sure that is true 99.9 percent of the time. To my mind one of the advantages of the RCMP is that it is a national police force, however, I appreciate that those in Ontario and Québec fail to see this as much as does the rest of Canada.
