Read it........sign it please

[Back Burner]

So ride started to shake when I hit 160 to 170 on the 400. It's only a few years old. What cases this and how can I fix it?

 

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I come from a country were this was a norm: prove that you are not guilty, until then you are guilty by default. Results are unimaginable for most of you. I run away from this system and now the system caught up with me in Canada. How ironic.

That is the direction we are headed.

The law has the innocuous name of: Civil Remedies Act, 2001, S.O. 2001, c. 28

The law actually says that:

"unlawful activity" means an act or omission that,

(a) is an offence under an Act of Canada, Ontario or another province or territory of Canada, or

(b) is an offence under an Act of a jurisdiction outside Canada, if a similar act or omission would be an offence under an Act of Canada or Ontario if it were committed in Ontario,

whether the act or omission occurred before or after this Part came into force. ("activité illégale") 2001, c. 28, s. 2; 2002, c. 2, s. 19 (3); 2005, c. 33, s. 20.

This is a retro active law that applies to any act or law in any country anywhere that has a law similar to Canadian Laws.

http://www.search.e-laws.gov.on.ca/en/search/

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[HafDun]

Uff !!! Finished the whole thread

And I am terrified how many of the posters are so brainwashed and influenced by politics and police propaganda.

So many voices: Kill the Speeders !

Now let me ask you a question: how many people really died or got seriously injured on the road as a direct result of speeding ? I emphasise: direct result of speeding under otherwise normal circumstances. Not drunk, not drugged, not a teen without license, not malfunctioning car. If you put some effort into it you will find that the statistics does not support the concept that speed kills. Reckless driving kills, stupidity kills, a Chinese driver going 70 km/hr on the left line on 401 - that is dangerous.

It is mentioned above about 5000 drivers caught. So in other words those 5000 have been driving dangerously around for a while. Where are those deadly, terrible results of their driving ?

This legislation is unacceptable because you are guilty before convicted. So if you speed 49km above limit you go to court, defend yourself and in case you win nothing happens. If you go 50+ even if you win, that does not mean anything since the cop already made a decision for the judge. In my opinions it is ridiculus. And dangerous as well - it violates your civil rights. Think about it. Today it is about speeding it sound so good, for all of us, for our wellbeing, etc. Tomorrow what next: the cop will cut off your hand before you are convicted of stealing (figuratively speaking) ?

I come from a country were this was a norm: prove that you are not guilty, until then you are guilty by default. Results are unimaginable for most of you. I run away from this system and now the system caught up with me in Canada. How ironic.

Why is it we always get the 'slippery slope' arguement when talking about civil liberties? It is a bit of a leap to go from impounding your car for 7 days to amputating body parts at the side of the road???

If the argument is about innocence vs guilt, I believe that a large percentage of contested traffic violations are dismissed in court due to technicalities or lack of officer apearance in court. Many of the rest have relaxed fines. So the concept of proving guilt or innocence is a bit fuzzy to me. On the other hand, I happen to believe that most cops are honest and have an interest in doing the right thing. I highly doubt that there will be many cases of a driver being charged under the 50+ law without having at the very, very least, seriouosly broken the speed limit. I really can't imagine any instance where a driver doing the limit or perhaps even 20-30 over, would fall prey to such a charge! I suspect there is more frustrated cops than corrupt ones. I think this empowerment is quite reasonable. Corrupt cops will abuse any law.

As for speed alone being a cause of accidents, our roads are too busy to support a 50km/hr variation between the slowest and fastest drivers. I think most drivers drive within 10-20 Km/ hr of the limit and most speeders are ticketed at 20-40 over. I would argue that anyone driving at 50+ on a busy highway almost certainly will be tailgating, making multiple lane changes and driving aggresively. These are things that cause accidents. I don't need to research statistics to know that all too often, police report speed as being a 'factor' in serious accidents.