Realizations after seeing your first SP?

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I once met a girl who was a street prostitute. She said she got more money/clients when she performed certain acts over others; the guys would tell their friends "[insert name of escort]" did X with me last night. My wife/ex-wife would never do that with me during our marriage. It's important to keep that in mind. When people say that sex with an escort is soo much better, I question to what extent those people have been in truly loving and committed relationships....in most cases, you're just getting the tip of the ice berg with an escort. It's mostly surface level authenticity
So if you like anal and your wife doesn’t, are you in a loving relationship if you get it elsewhere or refrain or pressure the wife to just do it?

No one said anything about waiting to have sex. And can we really set a minimum amount of time before people are in a loving and committed relationship? I can count too many people I know in "relationships" that they seem to hate and kills their energy. You can be in a relationship for 10 years + and feel like your trapped the whole time....those aren't loving and committed relationships.
Then you missed what he said. He said that sex happens first.
 

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I dont know about this anal and love talk. I know a lot of us blokes got fucked in the arse pretty good against our will on our way out the door.

Lol
 
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Being into anal but your partner not enjoying it does not mean you are not in a loving relationship. Loving relationships usually entail solid communication...I have not met someone that considers themselves as not being in a loving relationship for the sole reason that their partner does not enjoy anal (most woman don't ENJOY it tbh).

If you are in a loving relationship, would you really pressure your partner into doing it when you know full well they don't enjoy it? I would assume most would just refrain from doing it altogether or make some sort of compromise to get their needs met without making their partner feel comfortable. I've been in a couple committed and loving relationships in my life where my partner didn't enjoy certain acts. It's never crossed my mind that I was not in a loving relationship by the fact that I liked doing X when she did not....these relationships are SOO much more than specific sexual acts.

if someone's sexual impulses are so strong/extreme that they cannot get any sexual satisfaction from their partner if they don't do anal, I don't have an answer for that. But I would never draw a conclusion about a relationship strictly based on what sexual acts take place vs. those that don't.
But if he gets anal from an escort, the sex could end up being so much better. Because sexually he is getting what he needs. His relationship has nothing to do with it.

You're saying if the sex is better then he is not in a loving relationship. You are being judgmental and quite frankly, wrong I think personally.
 

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No one said anything about waiting to have sex. And can we really set a minimum amount of time before people are in a loving and committed relationship? I can count too many people I know in "relationships" that they seem to hate and kills their energy. You can be in a relationship for 10 years + and feel like your trapped the whole time....those aren't loving and committed relationships.
So only people who remain in that relationship for the rest of their lives are loving and committed. People can be in love and committed for 10 years but then break up because they fall out of love and feel trapped after those 10 years, which according to you disqualifies them. And what kind of moron would stay in a relationship for 10 years feeling trapped the whole time.

You're now 2 for 2 for ridiculous comments.
 

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No I'm not. The OP asked people if they had any breakthroughs after seeing an escort. I was describing the feedback I had from my experience...not that my experience was universal and is the "right" answer. I'm not saying anything you are suggesting at all. I was only saying sex with an escort will never match the quality of sex in a loving and committed relationship based on my experience. If there are people who are in loving relationships (based on their construction of what that looks like) and think having sex with escorts is better, there is nothing wrong with that experience, it just doesn't match mine.
Yet you told someone you are sorry they have never experienced a loving relationship.....


Based on his opinion. So Sorry but I call bullshit on not being judgmental
 
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Have you ever been in a loving relationship? What did it look like? But this time, try answering without the ad hominem attacks.
I attacked your comment, not your character. That's exact opposite of an ad hominen attack. I said that your comment was ridiculous.
Ad hominem
adverb:

in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.


And your assumption that because I enjoy sex with escorts and SBs (people that I hardly know) more than you do means that I've never been in a loving and committed relationship is probably more of a ridiculous comment and assumption than your previous one, bordering on being an outright stupid assumption because you have no basis for it other than your personal preference of whom to have sex with. You know absolutely nothing about me. Not everybody has the same tastes. If you like blondes and somebody else likes brunettes what assumptions do you make about them and their personal history. That's what you did with me. (Please note, once again I attacked your comment, not the substance of who you are.)

I'll be more than happy to politely and unsarcastically address your query upon reception of an apology for you accusing me of something that I proved does not apply. But it's not my fault that you are so sensitive that you took it as a personal attack because I disagreed with your opinion. People like that are called snowflakes. (Now there, simply for your education, is an ad hominem attack. Do you see the difference?)

Awaiting your apology, not that I'm expecting one.
 
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Try that again in english? I responded to the OPs post with my feedback after seeing an escort. It's clear you didn't like my response; who's the one being judgemental? The post was never about you, for you, or asked for your feedback (unless you have something to share about YOU seeing an escort).
Blah blah blah.

It is a public thread. I'm allowed to comment whether you like it or not. You TOLD someone that they must not have had a loving and committed relationship because he thinks that you can have better sex with a stranger then a partner. That was judgmental.

It is not about liking or disliking your post. It simply about calling out judgment on the board. There should be none on this forum regarding people's feelings on seeing escorts. This is suppose to be a safe space and you are being judgmental. Period.

and if you really want me to relate this back to me, I have saved a lot loving relationships because I’m available for amazing sex with strangers.
 

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Try that again in english?
That's bordering on an ad hominem attack.

But your attitude is somewhat arrogant. You voiced your opinion that sex outside of a loving and committed relationship can never be as good as when you are in one after you seen an escort. That's quite the database you are working with. And once again, just because that was your experience, it is an arrogant approach to automatically project your personal feelings/preferences onto others as if they should obviously feel the same.
 

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This is a safe space? Really (and I mean REALLLY)? Not at all. This is a place where people can anonymously post about just about anything they want to; but it's FAR from a safe place. And why are you wasting time calling out judgment. Every fucking review posted here is about someone's judgment of the woman they have seen. Does that mean you're going to call out every fucking person that posts? You are knit picking comments without looking at them in there context!
There is a difference between sharing opinions, debating and just being judgmental. You were being judgmental. Period. Sorry you don't like being called but deal with it.
 
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Sex with a stranger will never be as meaningful/memorable as it is in a commited relationship with someone you know. We're paying for mediocre sex at best (maybe slightly better than mediocre for escorts we have seen on more than one occasion). WHY would we pay for mediocre sex??? Answer that question and you will find the truth.
I would like to state and I think that most men will agree that the spiritual/romantic desire that a man has for human connection, intimacy, and partnership is completely separate from the physical desire to have sex. A man’s sexual desire and what he wants out of a relationship are like two different entities.
When you are seeing an SP, you are paying for the physical aspect of sex only, and expecting any sort personal connection between her and you to be real would prove you to be highly mistaken. That’s not to say that any praise or affection an SP can give you is fake, it’s just to say that it’s a part of their job.
Which is why (amongst a few flops obvs) I would have to say that the level of sex that you have with sex workers is way higher than civi’s because you are paying for girls way hotter and more attractive than you could ever get in real life. You can literally narrow down the agency girls and call a girl who is EXACTLY your type in every category, from height, hair colour body proportions skin tone etc…..
How long would it take you to do that IRL? Probs never…..
If you find that you are getting mediocre sex it could be that the quality of girls or whatever agency you are using is too low. This is obvious, but you do generally get what you pay for, this is why there are so many girls that have the option to go Indy and charge racks by the hour.
But what’s probably more likely is that you are treating your time with SP’s probably with an attitude that they owe you sex. Just because you’re paying doesn’t mean that you have the right authoritative control. I find that if you treat an SP like you would any other civil date, which means actually put in some effort, look good and smell good, be interesting and talk/flirt with her, show her a good/interesting time, be a gentleman….
It’s amazing how far some girls will go when all these good attributes are a package deal with the money on the nightstand….
 

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You edited your initial comment on my post to change the context, which is what opened up this whole can of worms. No, you won't receive an apology from me, you dumbass (no, I will not apologize for saying that either)! Stick to the forum topic!
I did not edit anything to change any context. I edit my posts very frequently because I always proof read what I wrote and tweak spelling, adjectives etc. But what I end out posting is what I intended to say all along.

It was you, who out of nowhere, made assumptions about my personal family life because we had different opinions on what sex with basic strangers can feel like. And BTW, I was on topic and my prediction came true.

You should concentrate on your other debate, with Genesis, because she's a sharp cookie.
 
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I wasn't being judgmental in my initial post. But if it came across as that, that's on YOU. I shared my opinion based on my experiences and you didn't like it. I don't give a fuck if you think I'm being judgmental. It's not what the thread is even remotely about!
You have made more than one post in this thread. I don't have to take just your intinal post into consideration. I take them all. Others said their opinion, their experiences and you judged them. Period.

And I have yet to state my opinion on your experience because I am not judging it as you have with others in the thread.

It's all there in black and white. You said what you said. We can all see it. I even asked questions to make sure I was understanding you right and with clarifying, you were judgmental.
 

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But if he gets anal from an escort, the sex could end up being so much better. Because sexually he is getting what he needs. His relationship has nothing to do with it.

You're saying if the sex is better then he is not in a loving relationship. You are being judgmental and quite frankly, wrong I think personally.
He's a very funny guy. Look at him swearing and insulting once he get's pushback. He takes it very personally.
 
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No you didn't! You went straight to calling me judgmental (who gives a fuck what you think about my response to the OPs post!) Are you that messed up in the head, lady? Seriously, do you do this on all threads?
Are you messed in the head???? It is in black and white. I asked about the anal example before I said I felt you were judgmental. How screwy do you have to be to deny something that is literally right in front of your face??? Post 26 is the anal example question, post 29 is the first time I said anything about being judgmental. It is litterally right there on page 2. LOL.

You are getting very emotional though. You should try and calm down a little. You're going to hurt yourself.

Bottomline. You were judgmental. I have said that. People can see it. They can agree or disagree. It’s all good. I’m going to watch RuPaul now. I’m bored.
 
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You edited your post AFTER I responded to it.
So if your initial post was not worded the way you intended, then I was responded to a message which didn't represent what you wanted to say.
So what was the edit that so drastically changed the meaning of what I was saying and changed our debate?

And IIRC, our discussion proceeded just as if it had not been edited.
 
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You are getting very emotional though. You should try and calm down a little. You're going to hurt yourself.
I think he needs some sexual therapy to release his anxiety. Aside from the title, I didn't read it, but wasn't it your thread about discounts? Can you do something for him?
 
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This isn't a debate, you moron! It's about sharing experiences/realizations people had after seeing an escort. Are you going to make one post responding to the OPs initial post or continue on this road of nonsense!
I didn't realize that you are a moderator.

I'm done. You are embarrassing yourself.
 
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