Reasons why the Toronto Maple Leafs will never win the Stanley Cup in the modern era

[to-guy69]

Over the last 20 years, they have not been able to draft one superstar, franchise player despite high pics in so many losing seasons (Clark wasn't a superstar)....EVERY other NHL team HAS over that time span...

They are one of only a handful of teams who are actually making a shit load of money in the NHL (less incentive to win versus the actual work involved to get there)

This city supports Leaf hockey way to much...over 1 million Saturday viewing audience in both good times and bad plus over 99.5% renewal success rate for season ticket holders (best % in any pro North American sport)

 

[Esco!]

Over the last 20 years, they have not been able to draft one superstar, franchise player despite high pics in so many losing seasons (Clark wasn't a superstar)....EVERY other NHL team HAS over that time span...

They are one of only a handful of teams who are actually making a shit load of money in the NHL (less incentive to win versus the actual work involved to get there)

This city supports Leaf hockey way to much...over 1 million Saturday viewing audience in both good times and bad plus over 99.5% renewal success rate for season ticket holders (best % in any pro North American sport)

All excellent points which is why I hate the Leafs. I dont actually hate the team or the players but the owners and management.

The fans of Toronto are being played for suckers and for this reason I dont support the Leafs.
Only when people stop going to games will they be forced to build a winner.
Untill then you'll get the same old recycled garbage.

 

[canucklehead]

I agree 100% no development

 

[healer677]

Since 1967 every other team has made the cup finals except for The Leafs.

Why would the ownership put on a better product? If the consumers are satisfied with the garbage on the ice then, management doesn't have to sign or develop anybody. Management knows exactly what they're doing, it's the fans who should stop going to the games and buying all the merchandise who should clue in.

 

[n_v]

All excellent points which is why I hate the Leafs. I dont actually hate the team or the players but the owners and management.

The fans of Toronto are being played for suckers and for this reason I dont support the Leafs.
Only when people stop going to games will they be forced to build a winner.
Untill then you'll get the same old recycled garbage.

Interesting comments you make and which I agree with 1000%. This is my postion on the Leafs. To me its interesting to see that nobody has blasted you for that, but others on this board are so quick to kick me in my balls when I have said the very same exact thing.

 

[Goober Mcfly]

If the lockout wasn't on, we'd be debating and discussing last night's Toronto at Ottawa game.

*sniff*

 

[superquad1968]

...and how Ottawa turtled again...

 

[Goober Mcfly]

*hears Hockey Night in Canada music*

What the fark?

*grabs sledgehammer and beats the ever-livin' shit out of the TV in the corner*

 

[n_v]

...and how Ottawa turtled again...

It's a regular season game. Sens more often then not don't turtle during this time. Playoffs is a different matter.

 

[vegasman]

Stanley Cup

Would you believe I was at that game in 67.Bought a standing room only ticket foe 6 bucks from a scalper.When the Leafs scored there final goal the guy selling a tray of pop let the whole thing go Memories.....

 

[scubadoo]

If the lockout wasn't on, we'd be debating and discussing last night's Toronto at Ottawa game.

*sniff*

We could always debate the baby sens ve baby leafs game tommorrow night. BTW Goober, I'll mail you some really expensive bland tasting popcorn from tommorrow night's game and a program to make you feel better!

 

[spiff]

What's up with everyone. I'm a major Leafs fan, but have come to the realization that the Leafs are in the same stratosphere as the other BIG BUSINESS sports franchises. Yankees, Manchester United and Real Madrid, they are huge money makers. The others spend the money to win championships, however the Leafs don't spend wisely. I believe the Leafs have been on the top, or very near the top of free agent spending in the NHL. Once again they don't spend wisely or back off because of the length of a contract a player is looking for which is just plain sad on the part of the Leafs. I will continue to support them which a true fan should do, but yes a CUP in Toronto may be a ways off.....

 

[red]

The first star for tonight, le premier etoile est.....

 

[Youngblood]

They need to fire ALL there scouts and hire new good scouts

1986
pick 6
Vincent Damphouse

1987
pick 7
Luke Richardson
pick 28
Daniel Marois

1988
pick 6
Scott Pearson
pick 27
Tie Domi

1989
pick 3
Scott Thornton
pick 12
Rob Pearson

1990
pick 10
Drake Berehowsky

1991
pick 47
Yanic Perreault

1992
pick 8
Brandon Convery

1993
pick 12
Kenny Jonsson

GO LEAFS GO!

 

[the_big_E]

I think soccer is a bad example, not a bad example but its different economicaly....in the 90s when Madrid and ManU racked up all those championships/european cups/league cups, generally they were the only teams that could spend so freely and "buy" championships...but now more teams are spending money, prime example being Chelsea...though we all know how signing guys left and right and center can lead to downfall...case in point, Leeds!

sorry to get off track

and the Leafs will win one day, law of averages baby!

 

[Hung Wei Lo]

They need to fire ALL there scouts and hire new good scouts

1986
pick 6
Vincent Damphouse

1987
pick 7
Luke Richardson
pick 28
Daniel Marois

1988
pick 6
Scott Pearson
pick 27
Tie Domi

1989
pick 3
Scott Thornton
pick 12
Rob Pearson

1990
pick 10
Drake Berehowsky

1991
pick 47
Yanic Perreault

1992
pick 8
Brandon Convery

1993
pick 12
Kenny Jonsson

GO LEAFS GO!

just a quick f.y.i - your post would be a lot more effective if you list the players the Leafs DIDN'T pick

 

[scubadoo]

What's up with everyone. I'm a major Leafs fan, but have come to the realization that the Leafs are in the same stratosphere as the other BIG BUSINESS sports franchises. Yankees, Manchester United and Real Madrid, they are huge money makers. The others spend the money to win championships, however the Leafs don't spend wisely. I believe the Leafs have been on the top, or very near the top of free agent spending in the NHL. Once again they don't spend wisely or back off because of the length of a contract a player is looking for which is just plain sad on the part of the Leafs. I will continue to support them which a true fan should do, but yes a CUP in Toronto may be a ways off.....

To win a championship in hockey under the present format used over the years a team needs to spend wisely but also draft well and develop the talent. If you just try to buy a championship the league has a couple of teams who are spend crazy (Toronto & NYR ) and haven't got anything to show for it.

 

[Coach]

To win a championship in hockey under the present format used over the years a team needs to spend wisely but also draft well and develop the talent. If you just try to buy a championship the league has a couple of teams who are spend crazy (Toronto & NYR ) and haven't got anything to show for it.

It will be a longer wait after the events of this week!!

 

[gladheateher]

just a quick f.y.i - your post would be a lot more effective if you list the players the Leafs DIDN'T pick

1969 - Ernie Moser (9th overall) - could have had Ivan Boldirev (11th overall).

1973 - Bob Neely (10th overall) - could have had Rick Middleton (14th overall).

1974 - Jack Valiquette (13th overall) - could have had Dave Maloney (14th overall).

1977 - Trevor Johansen (12th overall) - could have had Mike Bossy (15th overall).

1981 - Jim Benning (6th overall) - could have had Grant Fuhr (8th overall).

1982 - Gary Nylund (3rd overall) - could have had Scott Stevens (5th overall).

1987 - Luke Richardson (7th overall) - could have had Joe Sakic (15th overall).

1988 - Scott Pearson (6th overall) - could have had Jeremy Roenick (8th overall), Rod Brind’Amour or Teemu Salanne.

1989 - Scott Thornton (3rd overall) - could have had Bill Guerin (5th overall), Stu Barnes, Bobby Holik or Olaf Kolzig

1989 - Steve Bancroft (21st overall) - could have had Adam Foote (22nd overall).

1990 - Drake Berehowsky (10th overall) - could have had Keith Tkachuk (19th overall), Martin Brodeur or Bryan Smolinski

1992 - Brandon Convery (8th overall) - could have had Sergei Gonchar (14th overall) or Grant Marshall

1993 - Landon Wilson (19th overall) - could have had Saku Koivu (21st overall).

1994 - Eric Fichaud (16th overall) - could have had Dan Cloutier (26th overall).

1995 - Jeff Ware (15th overall) - could have had Petr Sykora (18th overall) or Martin Biron

1996 – Marek Posmyk (36th overall) - could have had Zdeno Chara (56th overall)

1998 - Nikolai Antropov (10th overall) - could have had Alex Tanguay (12th overall).

1999 - Luca Cereda (24th overall) - could have had Martin Havlat (26th overall).

 

[scubadoo]

1969 - Ernie Moser (9th overall) - could have had Ivan Boldirev (11th overall).

1973 - Bob Neely (10th overall) - could have had Rick Middleton (14th overall).

1974 - Jack Valiquette (13th overall) - could have had Dave Maloney (14th overall).

1977 - Trevor Johansen (12th overall) - could have had Mike Bossy (15th overall).

1981 - Jim Benning (6th overall) - could have had Grant Fuhr (8th overall).

1982 - Gary Nylund (3rd overall) - could have had Scott Stevens (5th overall).

1987 - Luke Richardson (7th overall) - could have had Joe Sakic (15th overall).

1988 - Scott Pearson (6th overall) - could have had Jeremy Roenick (8th overall), Rod Brind’Amour or Teemu Salanne.

1989 - Scott Thornton (3rd overall) - could have had Bill Guerin (5th overall), Stu Barnes, Bobby Holik or Olaf Kolzig

1989 - Steve Bancroft (21st overall) - could have had Adam Foote (22nd overall).

1990 - Drake Berehowsky (10th overall) - could have had Keith Tkachuk (19th overall), Martin Brodeur or Bryan Smolinski

1992 - Brandon Convery (8th overall) - could have had Sergei Gonchar (14th overall) or Grant Marshall

1993 - Landon Wilson (19th overall) - could have had Saku Koivu (21st overall).

1994 - Eric Fichaud (16th overall) - could have had Dan Cloutier (26th overall).

1995 - Jeff Ware (15th overall) - could have had Petr Sykora (18th overall) or Martin Biron

1996 – Marek Posmyk (36th overall) - could have had Zdeno Chara (56th overall)

1998 - Nikolai Antropov (10th overall) - could have had Alex Tanguay (12th overall).

1999 - Luca Cereda (24th overall) - could have had Martin Havlat (26th overall).

Ouch! Goes to show how bad Toronto's scouting has been over the past couple of decades.