Refuse SP for no Daty makes no sense to me.

[Gmanjoy]

This will probably get removed for being on the wrong place but whatever.
After replying to a question I can't help but wonder how are people refusing to see an SP because they don't provide DATY yet still want a clean SP? Am I the only one that thinks that SP isn't as clean a provider if they let every stranger they meet go down on them?
It's a double standard no?
I love a sweet pussy to suck on too but I am not going down on someone who maybe letting a bunch of people a day do it. Risky no? This makes no sense to me.
I said in the other post if I'm out to lunch on this please set me straight

 

[RebelinBed]

This will probably get removed for being on the wrong place but whatever.
After replying to a question I can't help but wonder how are people refusing to see an SP because they don't provide DATY yet still want a clean SP? Am I the only one that thinks that SP isn't as clean a provider if they let every stranger they meet go down on them?
It's a double standard no?
I love a sweet pussy to suck on too but I am not going down on someone who maybe letting a bunch of people a day do it. Risky no? This makes no sense to me.
I said in the other post if I'm out to lunch on this please set me straight

Yeah this needs to be moved to the 411 section.

Anyways, I think you need to do some basic research on sexual health related to oral.

Oral sex is probably one of the safest things you can do without protection. There's only a handful of STIs that transmit orally, all of which are easily treated except for maybe one or two. The likelihood of getting them is also much lower than their penetratively transmitted counterparts, even in sex work. Eating out an SP is no riskier than getting a bbj.

As long as everyone stays up to date on their sexual health checks and testing, keeps their personal hygiene in good order (teeth brushed, mouthwash, keeps their genitals clean, etc), everything should be fine. It's relatively easy to tell when either an SP or a client hasn't maintained their personal hygiene.

Is there always going to be some level of risk associated? Absolutely. However, so long as neither party partakes in the forbidden, I would argue it's much safer with an SP than any "normie/civie". As I've mentioned in other posts on the topic, most "normies" you meet on dating apps, at bars/clubs, etc. are far less likely to have the level of knowledge or maintainance of their sexual health than most self-respecting SPs. Most "normies" are only concerned with pregnancy and don't even consider STIs when not using protection. Most "normies" only get tested once every 3-4 months depending on their sexual activity or if they've been told by another partner they may have contacted something. The only exception to that is for people in the ethically non-monogamous lifestyle. People in the ENM lifestyle are incredibly safe and clean when it comes to their sexual health.

You're far more likely to catch something from the woman you meet on Tinder or at the club or in day to day life unless you have the sexual health conversation with them. As where with any self-respecting SP, you know they clean themselves well in between clients and at minimum get tested every two weeks. An SP catching something effects their ability to work and therefore their livelihood. Keeping themselves clean and tested is just as much part of their job as seeing clients is. A "normie" catching something is far more inconsequential to their daily life and due to their more lax attitude about it, are far more likely to transmit to others.

Hope that clears it up (pun may or may not be intended).

 

[Jenesis]

This will probably get removed for being on the wrong place but whatever.
After replying to a question I can't help but wonder how are people refusing to see an SP because they don't provide DATY yet still want a clean SP? Am I the only one that thinks that SP isn't as clean a provider if they let every stranger they meet go down on them?
It's a double standard no?
I love a sweet pussy to suck on too but I am not going down on someone who maybe letting a bunch of people a day do it. Risky no? This makes no sense to me.
I said in the other post if I'm out to lunch on this please set me straight

Your logic is full of stigma and negative stereotypes. Why see escorts at all if you look at them as nothing more then dirty whores. Because that is basically what you just said.

We are not clean???? Really???? Because we can’t shower, maintain sexual health and control our volume count???

Every civie I know is barebacking it every time, first time with no pull out because of the pill. Even when just meeting the guy at the club that night.

Clients and escorts take more responsibility and less risk with sex because of the nature of this industry.

Now if you are seeing a $60 assembly line escort off LL, you may have valid concerns but that is where YOU need to take responsibility. Coming to see someone like me who maybe sees a couple clients a week, is less of a concern.

 

[RebelinBed]

Your logic is full of stigma and negative stereotypes. Why see escorts at all if you look at them as nothing more then dirry whores. Because that is basically what you just said.

We are not clean???? Really???? Because we can’t shower, maintain sexual health and control our volume count???

Every civie I know is barebacking it every time, first time with no pull out because of the pill. Even when just meeting the guy at the club that night.

Clients and escorts take more responsibility and less risk with sex because of the nature of this industry.

Now if you are seeing a $60 assembly line escort off LL, you may have valid concerns but that is where YOU need to take responsibility. Coming to see someone like me who maybe sees a couple clients a week, is less of a concern.

Also, not considering the sexual relationships they have in their personal lives outside of working. Following his original logic, everyone is dirty 🫠

 

[SinnamonFairbanks]

Thats a totally reasonable thing to be worried about. If you have concerns about your sexual health definitely stay on the safe side.

Guys say stuff like "its treatable" and its "low risk" but its a LOW risk transmission with HIGH risk people. It's not just one high risk person, they generally see all the women in the area multiple times and circle back around.

They'll go and see a woman that has unprotected sex all day with people and then see everyone else for BBBJ after seeing some of the most unsafe workers in the area.

People act like they "would never" do that but they do. I've had clients admit to this before; Seeing an worker who does everything with no restrictions and then going to see safer workers for bbbj. One of them has unprotected sex all over Canada and the US with men, women and prostitutes and he frequents the area often. He is specifically why I wanted to stop. I didnt want his poor choices to negatively impact my health. He has seen al the workers in the area and regularly has unprotected oral and anal sex with countless men and prostitutes that offer BBFS from all kinds of provinces and US states.

I did offer DATY at one time because I felt too much pressure to do it, but I stopped because its not worth it and generally the guys that want to do it are so terrible at it you just want them to stop anyway.

Imagine the worst bj of your life, but multiple times a day from people that swear they're "good at it" because their feed back has only ever been from all the prostitutes that wanted them to finish and GTFO.

If women really LOVED this job they wouldn't charge hundreds of dollars an hour. If it was so FANTASTIC women wouldn't have to be forced to do it

They wouldnt have to filter out every aspect of their personality to appease the fragile egos of the people purchasing their services.

I didn't even know oral was enjoyable until I stopped offering it as a service.

I never did get any diseases from providing that service but I was constantly worried about it. I feel better about myself and my sexual health by not offering it and not exposing myself to other people's poor decisions. Unfortunately, in this business SAFE providers are seen as less valuable. The less restrictions a person has the more money they are able to charge and everyone feels constant pressure to offer MORE.

It doesn't matter how many times you say you are safe and you don't offer certain services, people will always inquire about BBBJ and BBFS. I cant imagine sucking random men's cocks everyday after what I know about men I'd probably choose drinking the blue porta-potty juice over sucking a bare cock of a guy that brags about fucking every prostitute in town. I definitely dont want them near my pussy.

People tend to disclose things to me because I act like I don't care. They feel like I'm not judging them. I am 100% judging them and doing risk assessments in my head.

This will probably get removed for being on the wrong place but whatever.
After replying to a question I can't help but wonder how are people refusing to see an SP because they don't provide DATY yet still want a clean SP? Am I the only one that thinks that SP isn't as clean a provider if they let every stranger they meet go down on them?
It's a double standard no?
I love a sweet pussy to suck on too but I am not going down on someone who maybe letting a bunch of people a day do it. Risky no? This makes no sense to me.
I said in the other post if I'm out to lunch on this please set me straight

 

[Jenesis]

If women really LOVED this job they wouldn't charge hundreds of dollars an hour. If it was so FANTASTIC women wouldn't have to be forced to do it

GTFO of here with that bullshit. Just because a woman charges for sex doesn't mean she doesn't like her job. A chef may love to cook but still charges for it. You think Gordon Ramsey hates his job????? Get off it.

It's a bullshit line from you because you don't/didn't like it. But you can't speak for all of us. SOME women don't like it. Trafficked girls are forced not girls working for legit agencies or working indies. There are PLENTY who like this job. They screen well so they enjoy their clients, they enjoy the freedom it brings via the higher level of income, the lower amount of actual worked hours, the freedom of an open schedule they create, and so much more. Personally, I will do this until the phone stops ringing. If guys are still calling for a gummer hummer when I'm 90 - so be it. Why wouldn't I have some fun and get paid for it????? I would be stupid not too.

Is it all roses? No. Sometimes you get a dud of a client. Yes, you get some dumb inquiries but you don’t have answer every text. Ignore and block is your friend. You don’t have to see every man who makes a request. I have had two “bad” dates my entire career. One guy tried to take the condom off but my abusive ex did that the first night we had sex so it is not an industry thing. And I had one guy steal my weed when I was still smoking. That is it. I have a couple of duds but I don’t see them again after. I search every number before I answer so I don’t deal with time wasters on text apps, I put my rates and services in my ad so I don’t have to repeat it in text and if a guy asks, I either refer him back to the ad or I don’t reply at all. It is not that hard to set boundaries and limits to make this job easier.

Your attitude sucks, based on your posting history, you have made your job harder for yourself. You choose not to get or listen to help and all you want to do is bitch and moan. I don’t understand why you are here when you clearly hate this industry so much.

 

[RebelinBed]

Thats a totally reasonable thing to be worried about. If you have concerns about your sexual health definitely stay on the safe side.

Guys say stuff like "its treatable" and its "low risk" but its a LOW risk transmission with HIGH risk people. It's not just one high risk person, they generally see all the women in the area multiple times and circle back around.

They'll go and see a woman that has unprotected sex all day with people and then see everyone else for BBBJ after seeing some of the most unsafe workers in the area.

People act like they "would never" do that but they do. I've had clients admit to this before; Seeing an worker who does everything with no restrictions and then going to see safer workers for bbbj. One of them has unprotected sex all over Canada and the US with men, women and prostitutes and he frequents the area often. He is specifically why I wanted to stop. I didnt want his poor choices to negatively impact my health. He has seen al the workers in the area and regularly has unprotected oral and anal sex with countless men and prostitutes that offer BBFS from all kinds of provinces and US states.

I did offer DATY at one time because I felt too much pressure to do it, but I stopped because its not worth it and generally the guys that want to do it are so terrible at it you just want them to stop anyway.

Imagine the worst bj of your life, but multiple times a day from people that swear they're "good at it" because their feed back has only ever been from all the prostitutes that wanted them to finish and GTFO.

If women really LOVED this job they wouldn't charge hundreds of dollars an hour. If it was so FANTASTIC women wouldn't have to be forced to do it

They wouldnt have to filter out every aspect of their personality to appease the fragile egos of the people purchasing their services.

I didn't even know oral was enjoyable until I stopped offering it as a service.

I never did get any diseases from providing that service but I was constantly worried about it. I feel better about myself and my sexual health by not offering it and not exposing myself to other people's poor decisions. Unfortunately, in this business SAFE providers are seen as less valuable. The less restrictions a person has the more money they are able to charge and everyone feels constant pressure to offer MORE.

It doesn't matter how many times you say you are safe and you don't offer certain services, people will always inquire about BBBJ and BBFS. I cant imagine sucking random men's cocks everyday after what I know about men I'd probably choose drinking the blue porta-potty juice over sucking a bare cock of a guy that brags about fucking every prostitute in town. I definitely dont want them near my pussy.

People tend to disclose things to me because I act like I don't care. They feel like I'm not judging them. I am 100% judging them and doing risk assessments in my head.

Honestly, this posts wreaks of someone who is jaded and disillusioned and probably needs to retire before they drive any remaining clientele away.

By your own logic of "women not needing to charge hundreds of dollars if they truly enjoy it", You aren't charging hundreds of dollars based on your rates, yet you still don't seem to enjoy it. So what does the rate matter?

Basing your entire sentiment of all clients on the clients you choose to see because of a poor decision you made to offer services you shouldn't have been offering in the first place is 100% your own fault. Totally self-inflicted. You sound like one of these young third-wave feminist OnlyFans girls who absolutely hate and despise men, yet are in an industry where the people you hate are intrinsically tied to your livelihood and success. And just like them, the truth will eventually come out and it is going to be your downfall because you can't profit off people you hate so deeply. At least, not for long.

Are there bad clients? Yeah. Are there good clients? Yeah. Based on your own admission, you knew what the guy in your example was like but yet you kept seeing him anyway. You kept seeing him until it made you sick and now that sickness has permeated into everything else. That was yet again, your poor decision making of choosing not to set boundaries and protect yourself mentally and emotionally.

Openly admitting to judging every client for "risk assessment" has to have been the stupidest thing you could've said. On top of all the other stupid admissions you made in this post. Openly admitting that you take advantage of the safety and security you're supposed to provide as an SP by being judgement-free to secretly judge your clients is just... Wow. You claim it's for "risk assessment" but I think that's a half-truth. The truth is that you do judge your clients. Risk assessment and judgement are not intertwined. You can assess what risk someone may impose without casting judgement on them. There's a difference between reading people and casting judgement on them.

Lastly, the last time I checked, you don't work in Durham anymore and haven't for a long time. You're out in Picton/Belleville area, so stick to your section of the forum because the more you come in here with these stupid long posts, the less and less welcome you become.

Honestly, if you are as jaded, disillusioned, judgemental, and misandrist as you've made yourself out to be you need to retire and stick to seeing what regulars you have left because if you keep on carrying yourself in this manner publicly, the phone will eventually stop ringing whether you want it to or not.

 

[SweetCandi_DR]

GTFO of here with that bullshit. Just because a woman charges for sex doesn't mean she doesn't like her job. A chef may love to cook but still charges for it. You think Gordon Ramsey hates his job????? Get off it.

It's a bullshit line from you because you don't/didn't like it. But you can't speak for all of us. SOME women don't like it. Trafficked girls are forced not girls working for legit agencies or working indies. There are PLENTY who like this job. They screen well so they enjoy their clients, they enjoy the freedom it brings via the higher level of income, the lower amount of actual worked hours, the freedom of an open schedule they create, and so much more. Personally, I will do this until the phone stops ringing. If guys are still calling for a gummer hummer when I'm 90 - so be it. Why wouldn't I have some fun and get paid for it????? I would be stupid not too.

Is it all roses? No. Sometimes you get a dud of a client. Yes, you get some dumb inquiries but you don’t have answer every text. Ignore and block is your friend. You don’t have to see every man who makes a request. I have had two “bad” dates my entire career. One guy tried to take the condom off but my abusive ex did that the first night we had sex so it is not an industry thing. And I had one guy steal my weed when I was still smoking. That is it. I have a couple of duds but I don’t see them again after. I search every number before I answer so I don’t deal with time wasters on text apps, I put my rates and services in my ad so I don’t have to repeat it in text and if a guy asks, I either refer him back to the ad or I don’t reply at all. It is not that hard to set boundaries and limits to make this job easier.

Your attitude sucks, based on your posting history, you have made your job harder for yourself. You choose not to get or listen to help and all you want to do is bitch and moan. I don’t understand why you are here when you clearly hate this industry so much.

Girl.....thank you!! My sentiments exactly!! I didn't think I could like you anymore than I already do, until today lol Oh and btw, if you wanna be gummers together in the retirement home I'm totally down. Lmfao

 

[Jenesis]

Girl.....thank you!! My sentiments exactly!! I didn't think I could like you anymore than I already do, until today lol Oh and btw, if you wanna be gummers together in the retirement home I'm totally down. Lmfao

Duo gummers - here we come!!!!!

 

[BlueEyes87]

I don't think it helps overcome the stigma still surrounding sex work to insist no one can be happy doing it. I've met some amazing women in this industry and I'm just personally thankful for all the comfort and safety it provides.

 

[SinnamonFairbanks]

Yeah ok we all love being treated like guinea pigs and having shitty sex with losers everyday

You got me. The people that have to pretend to like everyone and act like everything is fantastic 100% of the time are absolutely telling the truth

If they love it so much, tell them to drop their rate

Stop acting like exploiting women is your right because you have a couple brown bills.

 

[Jenesis]

Yeah ok we all love being treated like guinea pigs and having shitty sex with losers everyday

YOUR clients may be losers but mine are not. And YOU may be treated like a guinea pig but I'm not and YOU may be having shitty sex but as my reviews can attest too - I get to cum A LOT.

So again - speak for yourself. Because not everyone, not even close to everyone, is like you. As Rebel said, you bring so much of this on yourself. Then play a victim pity party

Example - you bitch about 50-70% of guys who contact you as being time wasters, yet you refuse to check for text apps. You have been told how to and I know this because I have told you three time now. One in a PM as a reply to you, one in a private thread and one in the public forum. You refused to even acknowledge the advice. Even though you asked for it. Instead you just wanted to use it as an example to bitch and moan. Or maybe it is just to seek attention. Or maybe both. Sad really.

Friendly advise - move on from this board and this industry. You may finally be happy for a change like many of us actually are.

 

[SweetCandi_DR]

Yeah ok we all love being treated like guinea pigs and having shitty sex with losers everyday

You got me. The people that have to pretend to like everyone and act like everything is fantastic 100% of the time are absolutely telling the truth

If they love it so much, tell them to drop their rate

Stop acting like exploiting women is your right because you have a couple brown bills.

Hun are you ok? I hope whatevers bothering you works itself out. Try and have a good day

 

[SinnamonFairbanks]

Hun are you ok? I hope whatevers bothering you works itself out. Try and have a good day

Thanks, I hate how misogynistic this site is. Its disgusting. I wish some main stream media would expose this incel BS. Even better I wish someone would info dump and expose all these people. The big tough guy hiding behind a computer talking sh*t about young people just getting by... I'd love to see his greasy ass plastered all over the place.

Its just gross. I come here to look like I'm watching a train wreck. This is the example of the de-evolution of society.

I have lots of respect for you candy, but even how some pig talks about you makes my skin crawl. He couldn't have someone like you touch him in his wildest dreams and this platform really makes guys think like they're hot shit.

I'd rather lose all my clients than pretend like this incel, misogynistic BS will fly with me.

 

[Enterprising1]

GTFO of here with that bullshit. Just because a woman charges for sex doesn't mean she doesn't like her job. A chef may love to cook but still charges for it. You think Gordon Ramsey hates his job????? Get off it.

It's a bullshit line from you because you don't/didn't like it. But you can't speak for all of us. SOME women don't like it. Trafficked girls are forced not girls working for legit agencies or working indies. There are PLENTY who like this job. They screen well so they enjoy their clients, they enjoy the freedom it brings via the higher level of income, the lower amount of actual worked hours, the freedom of an open schedule they create, and so much more. Personally, I will do this until the phone stops ringing. If guys are still calling for a gummer hummer when I'm 90 - so be it. Why wouldn't I have some fun and get paid for it????? I would be stupid not too.

Is it all roses? No. Sometimes you get a dud of a client. Yes, you get some dumb inquiries but you don’t have answer every text. Ignore and block is your friend. You don’t have to see every man who makes a request. I have had two “bad” dates my entire career. One guy tried to take the condom off but my abusive ex did that the first night we had sex so it is not an industry thing. And I had one guy steal my weed when I was still smoking. That is it. I have a couple of duds but I don’t see them again after. I search every number before I answer so I don’t deal with time wasters on text apps, I put my rates and services in my ad so I don’t have to repeat it in text and if a guy asks, I either refer him back to the ad or I don’t reply at all. It is not that hard to set boundaries and limits to make this job easier.

Your attitude sucks, based on your posting history, you have made your job harder for yourself. You choose not to get or listen to help and all you want to do is bitch and moan. I don’t understand why you are here when you clearly hate this industry so much.

Thank god someone said it!

 

[Jenesis]

Thanks, I hate how misogynistic this site is. Its disgusting. I wish some main stream media would expose this incel BS. Even better I wish someone would info dump and expose all these people. The big tough guy hiding behind a computer talking sh*t about young people just getting by... I'd love to see his greasy ass plastered all over the place.

Its just gross. I come here to look like I'm watching a train wreck. This is the example of the de-evolution of society.

I have lots of respect for you candy, but even how some pig talks about you makes my skin crawl. He couldn't have someone like you touch him in his wildest dreams and this platform really makes guys think like they're hot shit.

I'd rather lose all my clients than pretend like this incel, misogynistic BS will fly with me.

Completely unhinged.

 

[Enterprising1]

Yeah ok we all love being treated like guinea pigs and having shitty sex with losers everyday

You got me. The people that have to pretend to like everyone and act like everything is fantastic 100% of the time are absolutely telling the truth

If they love it so much, tell them to drop their rate

Stop acting like exploiting women is your right because you have a couple brown bills.

Yeah ok we all love being treated like guinea pigs and having shitty sex with losers everyday

You got me. The people that have to pretend to like everyone and act like everything is fantastic 100% of the time are absolutely telling the truth

If they love it so much, tell them to drop their rate

Stop acting like exploiting women is your right because you have a couple brown bills.

You do realize that you are WILLINGLY doing whatever it is you do?
That is not exploitation.
If you feel you are being mistreated or taken advantage of there are elementary solutions.
Delete your profile on horrible sites such as this one and find a new career!
The chronically negative behaviour and habitual whining are toxic for your well-being.
Imagine having a doctor, attorney, mechanic or server that constantly whined about how horrible their clients are and how much they hate everything about their professional life. You would probably tell them the obvious. Stop bitching and willingly participating in the very thing you proclaim to detest and make a change in your life.
Classic case of victim mentality and a futile exercise.

Now back to our regular scheduled programming on sweet vajayjay.

 

[BlueEyes87]

Stop acting like exploiting women is your right because you have a couple brown bills.

I don't take for granted the privilege to do this so I don't consider it a 'right' or exploitation. Everyone I've met was every bit as intelligent and physically capable as the women in my workplace and thanks to sites like this I've had more luck finding professional sp's who provide a safe environment for us both.

 

[LP191]

Sinnamon you are definitely in the wrong profession lol

 

[Nastrodamus]

Duo gummers - here we come!!!!!

i would like to volunteer as tribute for said duo-gummers