Remembering 9/11
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What part of "molten steel", "foundry", "like lava" do you not comprehend here from the Firefighters who were on the site itself? lol
Yes, melted steel was found on the site.
14:55 VARIOUS SOURCES, eye witness accounts, all say "molted metal/steel" found on the site.
You nailed your own coffin when you denied molted steel not being found on the site, now you're reaching with aluminum steel, because it looks entirely different when heated and in liquid form.
lol
If you post less, you'll get less upset with the facts that refute your personal claims that are obviously not in line with what firefighters on the scene had saw. lol You weren't there my friend. Let's be honest here.
You mean you don't give a fuck about an interview with first responders, heroic men who ran to the site of this disaster and what they say they saw.
That's nice to know. Just easily throw them aside, dismiss them, they have nothing important to say.
Gotcha.
The anger, calm down, just a discussion here.
The camera was on the ground (not on a tripod), the camera man wasn't holding it and he didn't move it until the plane impacted.
Yes fugi, you should stop spamming us with the bullshit excuses.
15:04 various eye witness accounts of melted steel.
I think this is a lot more credible than some guy on a board posting "no, it didn't happen"
It moved because he moved.
I'm not even sure what stupid point you are trying to make. Millions of people in new york are now in on the conspiracy? That's how many people didn't feel any ground shaking.
Anyway your claim is the bombs went off an hour later. The building DIDN'T collapse at that time.
Stupid post.
No, the stupid post was this one, where you claim there was no molten steel and Mr. Firefighter Man disagreed with your statement and tells you what he saw (with others agreeing with him). LOL
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?576250-Remembering-9-11&p=5648076&viewfull=1#post5648076
So, the people who reported an explosion in the basement/lobby before the 1st plane struck made it all up.
.............................................. "yes, they're all kooks, they weren't there, stop spamming us with YOUTUBE videos (which are actually a compilation of videos from the events of the day).
LOL :biggrin-new:
He says "I think a bomb went off in the lobby first...." He also states the planes hit, and then the glass blew out.
There would have been a very slight delay hearing or feeling the plane hit the building, as he was hundreds of feet below, and inside.
The vibration of an airplane hitting a building will be hugely amplified and the most vibration would be where it meets the ground. At that point, the vibration can't be absorbed by the building, and the glass at that level wouldn't be as strong as the floors above. So, the structure would vibrate a lot where it meets the ground and foundation.
Also, higher up, the building was designed to sway - probably up to 10 feet in any direction due to wind. The glass at those levels have to withstand the associated vibrations with that, but not so at the ground level. The vibration from the collision would cause enough vibration to blow the glass out.
At the end of the day, this is a waste of time......no-one will change the others mind, and you can throw all kinds of studies and reports and theories around.
I am confident it was NOT a conspiracy, that is my position based on what I know about the events and how buildings are built, and you won't change my mind.
If you believe in a conspiracy theory, its not going to change what happened, no-one will go to jail or claim responsibility, and things will continue on their path.
Let's move on to something else.
I am confident it was NOT a conspiracy, that is my position based on what I know about the events and how buildings are built, and you won't change my mind.
If you believe in a conspiracy theory, its not going to change what happened, no-one will go to jail or claim responsibility, and things will continue on their path.
Let's move on to something else.
According to fugi these guys are kooks too, they just made up a story about explosions for shits & giggles.
Conspiracy: "a secret plan made by two or more people to do something that is harmful or illegal
: the act of secretly planning to do something that is harmful or illegal"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy
It was a conspiracy, the difference is that you believe the conspiracy that unqualified guys with box utters did this, I think they didn't.
OH MY GOD. You've said some seriously stupid things in this thread, but this one is by far the most idiotic and funny. You claim to be using science to refute Fuji's points and you've incorrectly used science in EVERY case.
Surely in highschool you did this experiment: Your class all put their fingers on a railway track. Another student went 1000ft down the rail and struck it hard once with a hammer. All the students would have observed they felt the strike in their fingers before they heard the sound of the strike.
There are 100s of possible and reasonable explanations for the "vibration" at 21 seconds, but Fuji's is by far the most likely. He's correct, the sound waves will travel to the camera at the speed of sound. The shock waves of the collision will travel through the ground at a higher speed. It's basic wave theory - i) "waves" are the transfer energy through a medium, ii) waves transfer energy, not mass and ii) energy transfer occurs at different speeds depending on the density and characteristics of the medium as well as the amplitude and frequency (wavelength) of the wave.
Let's ignore Fuji's most obvious and reasonable explanation and instead look at other possible reasons:
- A dump truck was setting down a 500lb dumpster 100 feet away.
- Somebody bumped the cameraman - NYC is crowded
- The cameraman hickeduped - The air sucks in NYC
- A subway passed underneath. It's amazing how you can feel the vibration of a passing subway on the ground above.
I guess you are trying to claim it was a demolition charge that exploded BEFORE the plane crashed!? LOL LOL. I thought you conspiracy believes argued that the explosion occurred several hours later? You guys can't even get your theories straight.
So you are willing to let the demolition crew that placed the explosives, huge portions of the US government, unpatriotic portions of the military, personnel of the major airlines involved, professionals who participated in the NIST report, clean-up crews who hid evidence, all in a weird plot to murder thousands of innocent people - you would let them get away with it ? And are you ready to give up on the kidnapped passengers living in a secret cell in Guantanamo Bay ?
Fine, let the 50,000 or so co-conspirators get away with it. But they will be back .....
So, you think 100+ witnesses to explosions going off before the plane impacted made it all up as well.
