Maybe it's because the women is seen to be at a disadvantage physically wise to the man and submits to the aggressiveness.
Report: Five members of Canada’s 2018 WJC team told to surrender to London Police
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She didn't get 3 million, she got a fraction of that.
That premise assumes in all cases all men are rapists. It presumes guilt due to gender bias. It assumes in this case every man in that room would have gone along with physically harming her, by default.
It assumes a woman is incapable of consent under those circumstances, because it presumes , by default, she is always going to be intimidated at some point but not capable of expressing it. And that all men will automatically be presumed predisposed to raping her.
It presumes women, by default, should be considered unwilling participants in sex, before, during and after, no matter what. And that men are always presumed guilty, and must prove their innocence.
Like I said, I am amazed these Patriarchal notions that women are not capable of making and taking responsibility for bad decisions still exist.
Here...
-the premise does NOT assume ALL men are rapist
-it does NOT presume guilt due to gender bias
--it does NOT assume that every guy in the room would have gone along with physically harming her
-not all, but some women would be intimidated about the situation they were in
-you can NOT assume a women is a willing participant before, during and after
-you can NOT assume that a women "wants" it because she is flirting and teasing
I am amazed that males don't take responsibilty for their own selfish bad decisions as they treated their girl as badly as you would treat another human
Bottom line for everybody involved...alcohol was a factor!
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That's what I suspected, these people ask for a lot of money, then hopefully they get a bit of it through settling out of court.
Like the Ken McElroy case, the widow filed a $5 million wrongful death lawsuit against the town, it was later settled out of court by all parties for $17,600.
To get the big money in a civil case, it has to be a life altering experience like physical problems for life, you can never work again things like that. This girl was at work the next day.That's what I suspected, these people ask for a lot of money, then hopefully they get a bit of it through settling out of court.
Like the Ken McElroy case, the widow filed a $5 million wrongful death lawsuit against the town, it was later settled out of court by all parties for $17,600.
Are you kidding?
Where she going to find another sucker who doesn't want to know what really happened.
There's a sucker born every minute.
As long as a woman opens her legs and promises to pump out a couple of kids, plenty of guys will marry her. She'll gonna be just fine.
Fair enough.
Not sure if that alone is enough to get a conviction to the party of an offense charge though.
Her identity to 99.9% of the population is concealed, by all reports she was an attractive women and is now a university graduate, she will be fine.
The players will have difficulty receiving NHL contracts again and their behaviour has disgraced themselves to anybody who knows their names from family, friends and anybody else...they should learn Russian.
I think another player has to be convicted...and then the "party to an offense" should be easy.
Thank goodness, we can all sleep well tonight.
Which is exactly why they may have lied or contradicted themselves, because they knew there would be consequences even though they weren't guilty.
E.M. lied and contradicted because she knew the consequences of her boyfriend finding out she went back to a random's hotel room and getting fucked by a bunch of guys
after begging for it.
Poor thing, the courage after being traumatized liked that to go to work the next day.
An inspiration to us all.
Yeah, perhaps McLeoad gets convicted on both charges but still think it is a bit of a reach.
Yeah, this whole thing is so regrettable.
All a bit of no-win situation for these players as I think they should not have bothered with making voluntary statements to the the police.
If not for that one evening, these guys could be enjoying high-level professioal careers.
Poor guys and their careers…selfish behaviour cost them.
They shouldn’t have talked to the Police considering McLeod and Dubé got caught lying to them
Lying on a bed masturbating is a pretty good indicator......
Alcohol is not an excuse. It is a decision.
And yes gender bias is involved. A man gets drunk, goes and has sex, you think he can plead sexual assault after?
What responsibility? She has a responsibility to say no.
Lying on a bed masturbating is NOT consent…that is not an invitation for anybody to do anything…she can tease all she wants….and actually, she was lying on a bed sheet that was placed on the floor by the players and was asked to masturbate to put on a show.
She has NO responsibility to say NO…it is up to the players to ensure it is YES, that is legal consent
As far as your example goes, I’ve never heard a case where a guy gets drunk and says he was sexually assaulted that is a ridiculous example
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How about if she is asking the players if they are going to fuck her and one of them takes her up on the offer? Is that not valid consent for the fucking?
If she claims she is down to blow them and feeling thirsty, would that not be sufficient consent for the blow jobs?
Would her overtures not be sufficient consent or do the players have to ask each time? From what I have read about the case, seems like the players side is that they thought they had a standing invitation to her based on how she was acting and what she was saying to them.
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