Report: Five members of Canada’s 2018 WJC team told to surrender to London Police

K Douglas

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I hope Fun For All is coping well with the verdict.
This is exactly the outcome I, and every reasonable person, predicted would happen.
In the end a colossal waste of taxpayer funds thanks to DEI culture.
All of those players should be reinstated into the NHL. If I were a GM/owner I'd have no issues signing anyone of them if I feel that they could help my team.
 

The Oracle

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I hope Fun For All is coping well with the verdict.
This is exactly the outcome I, and every reasonable person, predicted would happen.

She's speaking to FFA here...This is a great break down.
 

mandrill

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Any of you dudes actually read the decision?

The credibility analysis starts on page 62 and can kindly be described as "goal directed nit picking". The judge applied a standard of near perfection to the complainant's testimony and scrutinized every little word she said. My take is that the judge made the decision that she would rather wreck 1 woman's life than 5 young guys' lives, given that it was a he said / she said case and then the judge backed up that conclusion by nitpicking the crown case.

The is pretty standard courtroom stuff and every judge does it to some extent. Nailing down your credibility findings with small examples appeal-proofs your decision. It's survival in judge-world.

I wasn't at the trial. I might have agreed with the judge. Or disbelieved the complainant based on different observations than the trial judge. Or believed the Crown case. But I'm not impressed by what the judge wrote and I don't think the Crown case was frivolous.


And the decision will have a deterrent effect on other women coming forward and reporting physical or sexual abuse in a he said / she said situation.
 

harrypalm

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Wasn't carter it was Cal Foote...
My bad, just figured a goalie needs to have that skill.

But seriously, EM got paid off so she didn’t want to go to trial, right? So how did she get forced to testify and such. [someone give me the TLDR version plz, tia]
 
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Steve Williams retired as London Chief of Police in February, 2023. Deputy chief of police Trish McIntyre served as acting chief of police until a full-time replacement was selected. The new Chief took office in June, 2025.

Williams was Chief when the incident took place. McIntyre was acting Chief when charges were filed. McIntyre has recently gone on medical leave, but details of her health issue are not posted online. You can speculate as to whether this is a coincidence or not.
 
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Muchadoaboutnothing

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The Crown knowingly advanced a frivolous, vexatious law suit that they knew or aught to have known was without any chance of getting a conviction. The five defendants may be able to sue the Crown for damages .
The political “higher ups” that compelled the Crown to go ahead this case have a lot to answer for.
The accused may get out of court settlements from the Crown which will be confidential but significantly higher than what
“ cum remorse” E.M. received from Hockey Canada.
They wouldn’t dare take such a risk. They got lucky once. It’s not always guaranteed
 

Muchadoaboutnothing

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I hope Fun For All is coping well with the verdict.
This is exactly the outcome I, and every reasonable person, predicted would happen.
In the end a colossal waste of taxpayer funds thanks to DEI culture.
All of those players should be reinstated into the NHL. If I were a GM/owner I'd have no issues signing anyone of them if I feel that they could help my team.
I love when people claim to be “reasonable” “good person” “honest” “incredibly generous!!!” Sell me baby !
 

mandrill

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The Crown knowingly advanced a frivolous, vexatious law suit that they knew or aught to have known was without any chance of getting a conviction. The five defendants may be able to sue the Crown for damages .
The political “higher ups” that compelled the Crown to go ahead this case have a lot to answer for.
The accused may get out of court settlements from the Crown which will be confidential but significantly higher than what
“ cum remorse” E.M. received from Hockey Canada.
I do trials for a living. 99% of trial wins involve the judge picking a side and then writing a set of reasons that nit picks the losing side's evidence to bolster the judge's choice of who to believe.

Another judge could have easily chosen the girl's evidence to believe. The problems with her evidence the judge referred to were very small. There's no way the Crown could have foreseen how that trial could have turned out.

There are cases where the complainant's testimony is so nonsensically unbelievable that NO judge could believe it. In those cases, the Crown normally drops the charges pre trial or mid trial. This was NOT one of those cases.

This was a pretty standard case, except for the massive publicity it got.
 

mandrill

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Steve Williams retired as London Chief of Police in February, 2023. Deputy chief of police Trish McIntyre served as acting chief of police until a full-time replacement was selected. The new Chief took office in June, 2025.

Williams was Chief when the incident took place. McIntyre was acting Chief when charges were filed. McIntyre has recently gone on medical leave, but details of her health issue are not posted online. You can speculate as to whether this is a coincidence or not.
Not a coincidence. The cops did nothing wrong here.
 

mandrill

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They wouldn’t dare take such a risk. They got lucky once. It’s not always guaranteed
The attitude from the Bench would be:

"You got lucky the first time. Don't push your shit so hard in our faces. Now pay the Crown's court costs and get the fuck out of our courtroom with your dumb shit."
 
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