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Butler1000

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We have the reactor, the fuel, the know how.
Time to build it, atleast in secret.
Money and delivery systems.

This is an overreaction. I've heard it before. Watch in a month or so when this trade tiff gets resolved. Trump doesn't exist in a bubble.
 

danmand

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Butler1000

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I think we have enough money to make nukes and delivery systems.
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to make rockets capable of this? And that it is, due to international treaties on nuclear development and uranium enrichment, basically impossible to do it in secret? And how much one of these programs actually costs?

This just isn't going to happen.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Do you have any idea how difficult it is to make rockets capable of this? And that it is, due to international treaties on nuclear development and uranium enrichment, basically impossible to do it in secret? And how much one of these programs actually costs?

This just isn't going to happen.
I am guessing "very" and "alot" to both questions?
We should still pursue it.
Nobody said it was going to be easy.
Countries with a lot less have developed such systems.
 

Butler1000

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With that attitude, of course not.
Ok, so the first thing Canada would have to do is leave the nuclear proliferation treaty. Then leave other organizations that monitor what happens to nukes. Then they would run into possible, if not probable sanctions. Then we would have to try to source or build from scratch a rocket program, finding a staff that would be willing to risk becoming pariahs to develop nukes. Knowing some people in Canada's aerospace industry they would be fewer than you think.

It would cost so much btw that we would have to lose many social programs to pay for it, which would draw the ire of voters. And the govt who initiated it would be out for one that promised to dismantle it.

Be realistic.
 

Butler1000

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I am guessing "very" and "alot" to both questions?
We should still pursue it.
Nobody said it was going to be easy.
Countries with a lot less have developed such systems.
Realistically only North Korea. How is their standard of living and standing in the world.

It would set off a brand new arms race.
 

Valcazar

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We are not going to spend 1 Trillion tomorrow.
We can first increase our defense spending to 2 or 3% of GDP.
Modernize forces, recruit more people, replace old equipment etc.,
And go from there.
Building an army is a step by step process. It isn't going to happen overnight.
Whether the US succeeds in pushing either Mexico or Canada (or both) to adopt a more Ukraine-to-Russia (or Poland-to-Russia) position in relation to the US is a question lots of people are keeping an eye on.
 
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Realistically only North Korea. How is their standard of living and standing in the world.

It would set off a brand new arms race.
Really?
India, Pakistan, Israel and South Africa.
And do you think they sacrificed their standard of living or their standing in the world due to nuclear weapons?
 

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Another day another meltdown...and we're just a month old from all this...
 
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Ok, so the first thing Canada would have to do is leave the nuclear proliferation treaty. Then leave other organizations that monitor what happens to nukes.
at which point US forces would move into Canada to liberate it from crazies
 

danmand

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at which point US forces would move into Canada to liberate it from crazies
See, that is going to be the result in all scenarios where we do not agree to an annexation.

Better force USA to drop any pretense of civilization and invade us. They will have to govern 30 million Canadians who hate them. Except the 4 or 5 quislings here on Terb.
 

Butler1000

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Really?
India, Pakistan, Israel and South Africa.
And do you think they sacrificed their standard of living or their standing in the world due to nuclear weapons?
India is a huge nation with resources. Pakistan has over 200 million as well. And they developed them in a very different time.

South Africa btw did develop a bomb but gave it up. And no delivery system beyond aircraft.

Israel basically was given theirs.

It's the rocketry that's just as tough.

So the cost was much easier to absorb in a population 5+ times Canada. And with a much lower standard of living and little to no social programs.

This just isn't going to happen. It's a minimum 10 years development time. And can you imagine the reaction of the Canadian public to a test on Canadian soil?
 
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